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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:30 AM
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Black Liberation Theology is no more anti-American...
Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 09:31 AM by boloboffin
...than the Hebrew Scriptures are anti-Semitic.

Jerome Corsi has fully exposed his racist core beliefs on Washington Journal. Again and again, he stated that the core of black liberation theology was hatred of America. This is a foul lie.

In an interview with Terry Gross, Cone explains the movement, which has roots in 1960s civil-rights activism and draws inspiration from both the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Malcolm X, as "mainly a theology that sees God as concerned with the poor and the weak."

...Cone explains that at the core of black liberation theology is an effort — in a white-dominated society, in which black has been defined as evil — to make the gospel relevant to the life and struggles of American blacks, and to help black people learn to love themselves. It's an attempt, he says "to teach people how to be both unapologetically black and Christian at the same time."


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Dwight Hopkins, a professor at the University of Chicago Divinity School, says black liberation theology often portrays Jesus as a brown-skinned revolutionary. He cites the words of Mary in the Magnificat — also known as the "Song of Mary" — in which she says God intends to bring down the mighty and raise the lowly. Hopkins also notes that in the book of Matthew, Jesus says the path to heaven is to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and the prisoners. And the central text for black liberation theology can be found in Chapter 4 of Luke's gospel, where Jesus outlines the purpose of his ministry.

"Jesus says my mission is to eradicate poverty and to bring about freedom and liberation for the oppressed," Hopkins says. "And most Christian pastors in America skip over that part of the book."

Hopkins attends Trinity United Church of Christ, where Rev. Wright just retired as pastor. In the now-famous sermon from 2003, Wright said black people's troubles are a result of racism that still exists in America, crying out, "No, no, no, not God bless America! God damn America — that's in the Bible — for killing innocent people."

According to Hopkins, that was theological wordplay — because the word "damn" is straight out of the Bible and has a specific meaning in the original Hebrew.

"It means a sacred condemnation by God to a wayward nation who has strayed from issues of justice, strayed from issues of peace, strayed from issues of reconciliation," Hopkins says.


You don't call a nation back to justice that you hate. You don't call a nation back to peace that you despise. You don't call a nation back to reconciliation with God when at your core you wish to see it burn in hell.

This point is made most specifically in the book of Jonah, where the prophet was called to preach to a nation he did hate and despise. Jonah tried to flee, but God sent a storm and a fish and got him back on track. Then Jonah went and preached condemnation but not reconciliation, and the people of Ninevah repented anyway and were reconciled. Then God chastised Jonah for the hate in his heart with the incident of the gourd.

God has ALWAYS taken the side of the oppressed over the oppressors. God has ALWAYS done this. The apostles of hate, the servants of the principalities and powers of this earth like Jerome Corsi will lie and denigrate and cast their aspirations, but God will not be fooled, God's people will not be fooled, and those interested in hearing the truth will not be fooled.

THAT is what Black Liberation Theology is all about.

Judge it by its fruits! Look at Trinity United Church of Christ. How do they express this radical identification with the poor and the oppressed as seen in the Bible? 71 community outreach programs, helping people to stand up, to be proud of who they are, to build a society of justice and peace. You don't see terrorists flinging bombs coming out of there. You see people following Christ, who tend to the sick, who help the unfortunate, who visit those in prison. I am no Christian, I'm an atheist, but I tell you here and now, I'd rather be a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ standing before the Lord of Hosts in judgment than a smug hypocrite like Jerome Corsi.

God Damn Jerome Corsi's America.

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:33 AM
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1. Recommended!
Great post, bolo!:thumbsup:
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 10:15 AM
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2. The historical Jesus probably was dark skinned. He most
definitely was not an aryan that is for sure. Just look at the Arabs, Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East today. They are not aryan in appearance (well the Ashkenazic Jews are closer to looking aryan).

MOST EXCELLENT post!!

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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 10:35 AM
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5. Oops!


Not exactly the kind of guy over whose feet you'd want your daughter to be breaking expensive bottles of perfume, now, is it?

Horrors!
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 10:27 AM
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3. word up!
K&R

the rich, powerful, rulers don't need a god- they are gods in their own little universes.

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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 10:29 AM
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4. Where's the link for the Jerome Corsi quotes you gave? nt
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 10:37 AM
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6. Here's Corsi's segment on WJ this morning.
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/vidLink.php?b=1218893680&e=1218896067&n=1

That's the whole 45 minutes. He said it several times, but really got into it in the last 15 or so.

I'll try to bring back some more narrowed down time segments.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 10:46 AM
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8. More specific
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 10:41 AM
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7. Here's an article where the author takes issue with this:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/mitchell/1107452,CST-NWS-mitch14.article

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I was especially offended by Chapter 7: "Meet Reverend Wright," where Corsi talks about black-liberation theology as if he is talking about a gathering of Ku Klux Klansmen instead of a ministry dedicated to fighting injustice here and abroad.

And Corsi's distortion of the roots of the brand of theology taught in many black churches is alarming because it ignores how black churches came into existence in the first place.

Black people didn't have a choice.

Ludicrous argument

Indeed, the first black African Methodist Episcopal Church was founded in 1794 when angry white church officials snatched Richard Allen, Absolom Jones and Williams White from their knees during a worship service because they would not pray in a segregated area of the church.

It was mainly the black church that helped launch the civil rights movement, and the black church that gave blacks and whites involved in that movement a safe haven from the hordes of racists determined to keep America a separate and unequal nation.

To hear Corsi tell it, black-liberation theology is a threat to white America because teaching black people to worship a black Jesus sends a dangerous message.

"Put simply, black-liberation theology reinterprets the biblical history and teachings of Jesus Christ to advance a revolutionary racial message," Corsi wrote.

Simply put, that is ludicrous.

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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 10:54 AM
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9. This is because Corsi does not know the first thing
about religious studies or if he does he is a willful liar. I am opting for both options. Black Liberation Theology has its roots in Catholic Liberation Theology. End of story. Liberation Theology is from the Catholic Church, and actually the South American bishops who had a real head butter with Ratzinger, who originally supported Liberation Theology, but got his head handed to him at a meeting of the Bishops.. But that is another story.


Many churches and denominations have since embraced the Liberation Theology message. It is the essence of the work of Jesus's work.. And it drives many Christians nuts who think that they are somehow blessed because of their wealth and flies in the face of Marketplace Theology, that basically says those who have more because they prayed for it, are better Christians.

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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 11:06 AM
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10. well said-
It never ceases to surprise me that the 'gospel'- the 'good news' to those who need to hear about liberation, justice, hope, salvation- is twisted and corrupted to mean "material prosperity"- and worldly riches. Often, by oppressing and abusing others.
:shrug:

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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 01:47 PM
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13. I have never understood that either
or how they even begin to get that. I can give you 10 simple readings, from the bible, if you read them one right after the other, would prove Jesus (by those quotes) to be a looney tune who hated his family... completely out of context..and these marketplace theologians have been doing this since the 3rd century, taking it out of context and completely overlooking what is actually being said and asked of people.

Most people who say they are Christians, aren't. They could not live up to what is asked of them, so they go for a fairy tale..

:shrug:
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 11:10 AM
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11. Thanks for keepig it real!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 11:27 AM
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12. K&R. Excellent post.

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