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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 03:13 AM
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8/14 ELECTION MODEL (TIA): Like Kerry, OBAMA will win TRUE VOTE (339 EV) but lose RECORDED VOTE IF.
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 03:57 AM by tiptoe

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What combinations of Uncounted and Switched vote rates would cause OBAMA to lose?

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The aggregate State model has Obama at 52.7% ... His expected electoral vote margin is 339199.
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The projections assume the election is held today and that there is zero fraud. The model also accounts for the distinct probability that the election will be fraudulent. The summary table displays Obama’s electoral and popular vote assuming that a) 3% of total votes cast are Uncounted and Obama has 75%, and b) 4% of his votes are Switched to McCain. After adjusting for these factors, the vote share calculations indicate that Obama would have a losing 262 electoral votes and a 49.9% vote share.
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2008 ELECTION MODEL
A  Monte Carlo  Electoral  Vote  Simulation



Updated: August 14

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  • Chart   National 5-Poll Moving Average Projection
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  • Chart   Obama Electoral Vote Simulation Frequency
  • Chart   Electoral Vote + Win Probability Trend
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  • Uncounted  &  Switched Votes
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    This
    State
    National
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    Monte Carlo
    Simulation

    Update
    Poll
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    2-party
    2-party
    Expected

    8/14/2008
    Aggregate
    Average
    Projection
    Projection
    ELECTORAL VOTE

    Obama
    McCain
     46.6 (51.89) 
     43.2 (48.11) 
     45.4 (52.49) 
     41.1 (47.51) 
    52.7
    47.3
    53.49
    46.51
    339
    199


        

    15-Poll

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    Sample

    Poll
    NATIONAL MODEL
     
    Pre   Undecided-Voter Allocation 
    5-Poll Mov Avg             2-Party          
     
    2-Party Projection  (60% UVA)
    5-Poll Mov Avg

    Trend
                                
    Rasmussen
    Gallup
    Gallup
    Pew
    IBD/TIPP

    CBS
    Time
    AP/Ipsos
    CNN
    USA/Gallup

    Dem Corp
    FOX
    NBC
    NYT/CBS
    ABC/WP
    Date
                
    13-Aug
    13-Aug
    10-Aug
    10-Aug
    10-Aug

    5-Aug
    4-Aug
    4-Aug
    29-Jul
    27-Jul

    24-Jul
    23-Jul
    21-Jul
    14-Jul
    13-Jul
    Size
                
    3000LV
    2673RV
    903RV
    2414RV
    925RV

    906RV
    808RV
    1002RV
    914RV
    791LV

    1004LV
    900RV
    1003RV
    1462RV
    1000RV
    MoE
                
    1.8%
    1.9%
    3.3%
    2.0%
    3.2%

    3.3%
    3.4%
    3.1%
    3.2%
    3.5%

    3.1%
    3.3%
    3.1%
    2.6%
    3.1%
    Obama
                
    47
    46
    45
    46
    43

    45
    46
    48
    51
    45

    50
    41
    47
    45
    50
    McCain
                
    46
    43
    38
    43
    38

    39
    41
    42
    44
    49

    45
    40
    41
    39
    42
    Spread
                
    1
    3
    7
    3
    5

    6
    5
    6
    7
    -4

    5
    1
    6
    6
    8
     
    Obama
                
    45.4
    45.6
    46.3
    45.6
    46.6

    47
    48
    47
    46.8
    45.6

    46.6
    46
    47.8
    47.2
    47.8
    McCain
                
    41.1
    40.6
    40.7
    40.6
    40.8

    43
    44.2
    44
    43.8
    42.8

    41.4
    40.4
    40.6
    40.6
    40.8
    |
    Obama
                
    52.5
    52.9
    53.2
    52.9
    53.3

    52.2
    52.1
    51.6
    51.7
    51.6

    53
    53.2
    54.1
    53.8
    54
    Win Prob
                   
    99.7
    99.9
    97.3
    99.8
    97.8

    91
    87.9
    85.2
    84.2
    81.3

    96.9
    97.4
    99.5
    99.8
    99.4
     
    Obama
                
    53.5
    53.9
    54.1
    53.9
    54.2

    53
    52.7
    52.4
    52.4
    52.6

    53.8
    54.2
    54.8
    54.5
    54.6
    McCain
                
    46.5
    46.1
    45.9
    46.1
    45.8

    47
    47.3
    47.6
    47.6
    47.4

    46.2
    45.8
    45.2
    45.5
    45.4
    Diff
             
    7
    7.8
    8.2
    7.8
    8.3

    6
    5.4
    4.8
    4.9
    5.1

    7.6
    8.3
    9.5
    9
    9.3
    Win Prob
                   
    100
    100
    99.3
    100
    99.4

    96.5
    93.6
    93.6
    93.0
    92.5

    99.2
    99.4
    99.9
    100
    99.8
     




     


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    Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 03:57 AM
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    1. This is as bad as it will get. His vacation is over, a VP will be named,
    and that plus Obama's ads plus the convention will give Obama a bounce and doom McCain's chances.

    And I can't wait to see McCain lose the debates.
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 04:20 AM
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    2. August 05, 2008 "Obama signs up lawyers" ..."Obama Voter Protection Program has already launched..."

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Obama_signs_up_lawyers.html

    Obama general counsel Bob Bauer emails lawyers and law students that the campaign is setting up an "unprecedented" new "voter protection" program -- a standard feature of Democratic campaigns, but given the general enthusiasm for Obama, and the specific enthusiasm (according to my anecdotal sense) among legal types, probably on a very large scale.

    Bauer writes:

    • In 2004, those with legal expertise -- people like you -- were critical to the voter protection effort.

    • Lawyers and legal professionals made sure that registered voters made it on the rolls and were able to vote. They made sure that ballots were available and polls stayed open. And they helped reassure voters that they would not be intimidated.

    • Despite our stepped-up efforts, problems persisted -- including deceptive flyers, unnecessary lines, inadequate ballot supplies, and problems with voting machines.

    • In a year that will likely see unprecedented turnout, we can't afford to let our guard down. The stakes could not be higher. This election has to be different.

    That's why the Obama Voter Protection Program has already launched, earlier than ever before, and will be the most comprehensive voter protection program in our nation's history, with counsel in 50 states and a vote protection team on the ground now.
    ...
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 04:26 AM
    Response to Reply #1
    3. Obama will clobber McCain in debate. nt
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    Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 04:51 AM
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    4. The way Kerry was to suppose to clobber Bush in the debates?
    Let not make the same mistake. Lets downplay the debates, play it as the new guy going up against the veteran. Lower the expectations then hit them hard.
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    Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:01 AM
    Response to Reply #1
    5. McCain has not spent a lifetime in politics by being a poor debater.
    Lets not get arrogant. Lets not make the mistake we did with Gore and Kerry, thinking we was going to kick ass in the debates. All Bush had to do was hold his own.
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:18 PM
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    7. * relied on election fraud for his "political success". McCain will do the same. nt
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    davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:13 AM
    Response to Reply #1
    6. but but....
    haven't you been listening to the naysayers on this board?

    :sarcasm:
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 12:57 AM
    Response to Reply #6
    9. k! nt
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:50 PM
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    8. We can beat McCain. Can We (Obama, team of lawyers et citizens) beat the "GOP" Election Fraud? nt
    Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 09:26 PM by tiptoe
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