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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:22 AM
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MSM Hypocrisy and John McCain - The Husband In Absentia - Classic User
We know about how the MSM has largely covered up the facts surrounding John McCain's abandonment of Carol McCain and his affair with Cindy. The MSM has, of course, focused intently on John Edwards' affair, and has even repeatedly raised Bill Clinton's affairs, which took place 10 years ago. However, little has been said about John McCain cheating on Carol McCain after she was disfigured in a car accident. However, the man has not only neglected Cindy as described in this complimentary article on Cindy, but the fact of the matter is that he has used her fortune and connections to advance his career, but has often neglected his family in the pursuit of his ambitions.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/142650/output/print

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Ambitious naval officers who hope to make admiral know they must put in years of sea time, long deployments aboard ship where they prove themselves as sailors and earn the respect of their superiors. Back home, their wives work, chase after the kids and take care of the house, building lives of their own while their husbands build their careers. Cindy McCain knows what that's like. Over the 28 years of her often long-distance marriage to Capt. John McCain, USN (Ret.), she says she thought of herself as a Navy wife whose husband was off on tour—albeit on Capitol Hill instead of somewhere in the North Atlantic. "It was almost like a deployment," Cindy told NEWSWEEK. "What I told the kids from the time they were little is that their dad was deployed and serving our country in Washington."

Cindy has sometimes likened herself to a single mother; now 54, she has often been far away from her husband during difficult moments, including two of three miscarriages she suffered in the 1980s. Years later, her husband did not notice when she became addicted to painkillers, a habit, she says, brought on in part by the stress of politics. In 2004, he was on the other side of the country when she suffered a stroke that left her partly debilitated. On her own, she learned to walk again. Cindy says she doesn't resent the time she has spent without her husband. It was her choice to stay in Arizona while he rose in Washington, and she says she knew when she married him that he was always going to "put country first."

She certainly isn't looking for pity. Unlike many Navy wives, Cindy McCain has never had to worry about scraping up enough money to pay the phone bill. The heiress to a fortune that is estimated at more than $100 million—her father built the largest beer distributorship in Arizona—she raised the couple's four children in the house where she grew up, and the couple has a ranch near Sedona. Her life away from Washington has given her the freedom to unhitch herself from her husband's career and pursue her own interests. She is chairman and majority owner of her family's beer business, and oversees a family charity that supports groups that provide medical care to people in some of the world's poorest countries. An amateur pilot (she says she got her license so she could fly John on campaign swings around Arizona), she also learned to drive race cars with her son Jack, a cadet at the U.S. Naval Academy. Last week she was in Vietnam with Operation Smile, a group that brings American doctors to repair children's cleft palates (she sits on the charity's board).

* * *

In the spring of 1979, Cindy joined her parents on a trip to Hawaii. At a Navy cocktail party, a cocky captain came up and introduced himself. John McCain was the Navy's chief liaison to the Senate in Washington. He was 41, but told her he was 37. Cindy was 24, but told him she was 27. By both accounts, it was love at first sight—though for McCain, it was far more complicated. He was a married father of three. His relationship with his first wife, Carol Shepp, was coming apart, and the two were separating, though he didn't divulge any of that to Cindy that first night.

"I monopolized her attention the entire time," McCain writes in "Worth the Fighting For." Afterward, he persuaded her to join him for drinks at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel. At first, Cindy had no idea that her date was a celebrated war hero who'd endured years of torture in a Vietnamese prison. Her parents had to tell her his story. In his book, McCain writes, "they were more welcoming of my attentions to their daughter than I had a right to expect. I doubt I could match their graciousness should I find one of my daughters attracted to someone who reminded me of me."


Over the next few months, John and Cindy traveled between Washington and Arizona to see each other. On one of Cindy's visits to the capital, McCain proposed over drinks. They had known each other less than a year, but Cindy accepted immediately.

First, McCain had to deal with his current marriage. He had met Shepp, a former fashion model, before he went to Vietnam. He had adopted her two sons from an earlier marriage and together they'd had a daughter, Sidney. In 1969, while McCain was a POW, Shepp was nearly killed in a car accident. The wreck left her with permanent injuries. When he returned home in 1973, the two tried to make the marriage work, but they had little in common after six years apart. McCain has said he is responsible for the breakup. In February 1980, he filed for divorce. Little more than a month after the divorce was final, Cindy and John married in a glitzy ceremony at the Arizona Biltmore.

Shepp no longer discusses the marriage, but has said she doesn't blame McCain. She has told reporters she thinks of him as a friend and supports him for president. The marriage soured because of "John turning 40 and wanting to be 25 again," she told McCain's biographer Robert Timberg. Others who know them say McCain pursued Cindy as a way of putting his war years behind him. "I think John very much saw her as reclaiming the life he had lost," Albert (Pete) Lakeland, a former congressional staffer who was with McCain when he met Cindy, told Timberg.

* * *

She was happy to be back home, but with McCain in Washington full time she confessed to friends she felt alone. "She was under a lot of stress," says Cindy's friend Sharon Harper. "He tried to be home every weekend, but when he wasn't, they must have talked 20 times a day." Cindy recalls how relieved she sometimes was when her husband would come through the door. "I will tell you that there were times when he would come home on Friday, and I'd had a long week with the little ones running around and I would say, 'Welcome home, I'm going out'," she says.

* * *

As she nursed baby Bridget back to health, Cindy was suffering problems of her own. In 1989, she lifted young Jimmy and ruptured a disc in her back, an injury that took several surgeries to fix. As she recovered in the hospital, an orderly set a newspaper down on her bed. "Guess your husband's not so great after all," she said sarcastically. On the front page was a story questioning whether McCain and four other members of Congress had inappropriately intervened to save a failed savings and loan owned by developer Charles Keating—a Hensley family friend. Cindy and her father had invested nearly $400,000 in a strip mall Keating owned. He had been a major contributor to McCain's campaigns and John and Cindy had vacationed at Keating's home in the Bahamas nearly 10 times, often flying down on one of Keating's private jets. McCain insisted he had paid for the use of the jet, but Cindy, in charge of the family's records, couldn't find the receipts. Ultimately, McCain received a mild rebuke for "poor judgment." But Cindy, convinced she had embarrassed her husband, was distraught. Under stress and still in pain after surgery, she began taking more of the pain pills doctors had prescribed. Soon she was addicted, taking up to 20 Percocets and Vicodins a day.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:25 AM
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1. I don't care what all the naysayers say about Ms. McCain
I believe she is chronically depressed and married to a man who has always bullied her - I don't think she has ever had the strength or the self-esteem to stand up to him
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:31 AM
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2. As I Was Saying, That Was A POSITIVE Article On Cindy, But...
John McCain still comes off as a neglectful, narcistic, me-first kind of guy.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:34 AM
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4. Then it sounds like he's qualified to be president. FDR was the same way.
Stomped all over his family and aides to become president. Example: on the 1932 campaign trail he made a quip about the fact that his eldest son, James, was going bald. James visibly cringed over the comment, and FDR continued to use the joke at every stop, much to James' dismay.

Clementine Churchill, that's CLEMENTINE CHURCHILL said FDR was the vainest man she'd ever met. Wow! She would know.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:00 AM
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15. but FDR had quite a different and qualified spouse, who
stepped up, and spoke up. FDR also had a heart for the common man- and was willing to fight for the good of society even when it was unpopular among the wealthy and powerful class he hailed from.

McCain has no similar agenda. His passion is war and military- FDR's was 'everyman'.

:hi:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:49 PM
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19. I wouldn't vote for McCain if you put a gun to my head.
In fact, my parents knew his parents. His father was a great submarine commander and seems to have had all the fine leadership qualities his son lacks.

McCain, like Bush, is a privleged kid who got a lot of breaks because of his dad and is always having to prove himself.

ps. I have four entries in the ELEANOR ROOSEVELT ENCYCLOPEDIA. Harry Truman said she was "one of the greatest people who ever lived." And she was.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 06:05 PM
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23. nor would I- and and I agree with you about Eleanor
she was one hell of a lady.

:hi:

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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 06:11 PM
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24. John McCain Is A Mooch - He Owes His Poltical Life To His Wife's Family
Yet, when she was most in need, he did not even notice that she was addicted to pain meds. Worse, when the Keating scandal hit, he appears to have placed the blame for lost receipts on her. John McCain would not be where he is without his wife's fortune. Heck, his initial start was due to loan she gave from her trust fund. So, while McCain is a busy guy, you would expect him to not to be such a mooch.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:34 AM
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5. the man is a bully, a fucking ego-maniac
the Obama campaign really needs to get Americans to REALLY KNOW McCain because they NEED TO KNOW. The man is, simply put, not qualified to be president.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:40 AM
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7. Oh, he's qualified, but he is completely unsuited emotionally to be Prez.
God forbid someone in the media make a Capt. Queeg analogy. He certainly fits that one well.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:31 AM
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3. Snap psychology like that isn't really fair.
You can use similarly scant facts to say that Obama's huge absences from his family these past two years has meaning it probably doesn't have.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:36 AM
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6. hence my words, "I BELIEVE"
this is my opinion - and I don't have a similar feeling about Obama's absence from his family. I'm just very good at reading people (for example, I have always thought Edwards is phony without really knowing why - well I know why now).
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 05:53 AM
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9. Here is snap psychology for you.
Edited on Sun Aug-10-08 05:56 AM by fasttense
When McCain talks he reminds me of a pedophile trying to lure a little child into his car. He even looks like my funny uncle. His sing-song voice, his stumbling rhythm, his over dramatic emphasis on the wrong words. It's like he is pretending to be real pleasant and nice so he can lure a not so bright child and then.....

Don't trust him.

Do you know Mookie that McCain will pay you to say nice things about him. You should go see if he'll pay you.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:22 AM
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16. wise one you are
and you know, that funny "cadence" of voice and weird emphasis on words is often seen in sociopaths and psychopaths. I'm djust sayin'.

Now, let me say that way before W got into office, I was creeped out by the man. I said he was a bully, a murderer, and that he reminded me of OJ Simpson. Now, that same alarm bell has gone off a few other times in my life and has never been wrong.

Looking at McCain, he represents death and destruction to me. Bush represented bullying and obtuse power, the set-up of the end.

Sure, that's just my gut, so I don't go around talking about that. But it's there. The facts and his policies, when he has them, are no comfort. I find him disjointed and dis-connected emotionally in a way which reminds me of the time I worked as a job coach for the mentally ill. No, I'm not kidding. It would be interesting to hear a professional's take on him. The way he looked at that woman re the DHL thing and acted like he knew nothing about it? A lack of shame and guilt is NOT a good sign of mental health. Quite the opposite. It is the sign of someone capable of great harm. What is to stop them, so long as they think/feel/have been told they are right?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:50 PM
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20. Fuck you, and learn to read posts more accurately. nt
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 06:12 AM
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10. Everytime I see her, my immediate though is
that she is an abused spouse. I think the same thing when I see Laura Bush. There is something about them and they way they interact with their spouses that is just off a little.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:23 AM
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17. me too ...it makes me very sad. n/t
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 07:34 AM
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13. Cindy does not impress me.
She looks and acts like a robotic ice princess; she broke up the mccain family (with john's help); she's been addicted to drugs and arrested for forgery.

Cindy comes off just as poorly in a comparison with Michelle as john does in a comparison with Barack. Which shows true "family values" and which is a randy, oversexed jerk? Which made his own way in life and which married money (the Republican dream) and became an instant multi-millionaire?

The idea that there is any comparison between the members of these two families is an affront to thinking people everywhere.
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Youphemism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 04:34 AM
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8. 20 Percocets and Vicodins a day? Amazing she's alive...

Also, here's the part that sticks out more to me. with respect to the Keating issues, and the McCain's using Keating's private jet:

"McCain insisted he had paid for the use of the jet, but Cindy, in charge of the family's records, couldn't find the receipts."

Those aren't "the family records." Those are the records of a Senator who is supposed to be responsible for tracking his own expenses.

The guy can't use a computer, can't keep track of his own expenses, and he wants people to trust him with the economy? Will he also blame it on his wife when he sends us into a depression?
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 06:37 AM
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11. wow.. I couldn't imagine taking that many pills in a day, from the measly
minor scrips I've been written at various times.. she must have been popping 1 or 2 an hour and barely sleeping.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 07:26 AM
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12. Good grief! One Vicodin after my hip surgery made me loopy. No wonder she looks
like she's not there.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 07:36 AM
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14. My 14-year-old niece had an interesting reaction.
The very first time she saw Cindy on TV she said, "That lady looks dead!"
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Youphemism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:49 PM
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21. I think she's onto something... But "undead" is more accurate. /nt
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Youphemism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:58 PM
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22. I seem to have a strong resistance to pain meds and I still couldn't do half that for one day...

Doctors like to pretend on the label that they last six hours, but they're usually gone in four. Even taking two of the little buggers every four hours would only get you to 12, assuming you never slept. And by the time I got to pills 7&8, I'd be lucky to find the bottle.

I'm sure you build up a resistance, but she must have been very close to a toxic blood level. I remember my 300+ pound father laid up in bed with back spasms taking a single Valium and singing "Someday My Prince Will Come" for half the day.

(Usually he got tired of singing it after half an hour. My sister tried to find excuses not to invite her high school friends over, to avoid the "that's just my dad" disclaimer.)

But I digress.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:27 AM
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18. such a load of hooey
they have an accountant who does all of their bills. come on. and yeah, isn't that dude from alaska going down for the same thing? if you don't claim it, you are in violation and can be charged? that isn't the last jet "ride" he forgot to claim...his little telecom lobbyist friend gave him a "ride" on her company jet (and what else?) he forgot to claim as well. this whole cindy can't find the record is so typical repuke stuff. go find the white out, you scum bag. we know what you and your accountants do when the lights are out.

white out, every repuke;s best friend...until the intertubes came along and their tax records could be gotten directly...damn. don't it suck?
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