I think Edward's affair will cost John McCain points in the polls

[FrenchieCat]

Cause John McCain also committed adultery on his first wife with a woman 24 years his junior.

[XemaSab]

1. Back in 1980

When he was John Edwards' age. :P

[FrenchieCat]

3. Yep.

and ended up leaving his wife and marrying the young heiress and her money.

[tblue]

2. IF we keep that little fact on the front burner.

[FrenchieCat]

5. Where it belongs.

I will be writing this week-end.

I hope some will join my "writing lab". I will make sure to post it clearly and provide email addresses for all of us.

[CitizenPatriot]

44. Yes?

where do you post these? I'm new here...sorry...but I have several helpers today who are trying to share their thoughts on other sites....just not sure where to go.

[DailyGrind51]

32. "Infidelity" burns McCain more than Obama!

[dkf]

4. I'm still stunned that he got his marriage certificate with Cindy before he was divorced from Carol.

That seems beyond outrageous to me.

[FrenchieCat]

6. And that no one has stopped to do the math.

Doesn't that make him close to a bigamist, or immoral at best?

[dkf]

7. He was cohabitating with Carol for the first 9 months of his relationship with Cindy.

That is just f'd up.

[CTyankee]

36. And he lied about it in his biography.

n/t

[osaMABUSh]

8. Absolutely this should hurt McCain

Quite simply because the media will start talking about all the politicians who have cheated (Clinton, Hart, etc.) then they have to look at the two guys running for Prez. Obama, cheater? no McCain cheater? yes

Puts infidelity out there as a character issue and McCain's past finally comes up.

[Cosmocat]

29. You guys are kidding ... right ???

Hardball last night ...

3/4 of the show was about John Edwards ... John McCain's name came up ONCE ... BO's came up a couple dozen - and to a man they all said OBAMA WAS GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ...

Sorry ... Obama is a D, Obama is an incredibly viral (sp) man ... The media will play this as hard as it can to guilt BO by associatino to Edwards, while ignoring McCain's past ...

There is only one candidate in this race with a HISTORY of being a philander ... But, I don't know what MSM people in this string are watching that leads them to believe that in any way that candidate is going to be called out for it, while the other candidate has no indicatins other than being an extraordinariliy loving husband and father, who WILl get stained with it somehow ...

[julialnyc]

37. I watched Race to the White House last night and it struck me that it could hurt McCain

The Republicans on the panel didn't want to touch it..... and then Mark Green reminded people that Obama wasn't the presidential candidate who cheated on a sick wife.

The Republicans (forgot their name) went out of their way to say it was personal and people make mistakes, blah bah.....

[Cosmocat]

46. IMO ...

again, they play it as long and as hard as they can while it is a DEMOCRATIC scandal, and while they can say BO in the same sentence ... As soon as the dots start connecting to McCain, it will be shut down ...

I would put money on this if I could ...

[depakid]

9. It only will if people know about it

and the actual facts are far worse than you've touched on....

[FrenchieCat]

11. I understand that.

If you could link me to the real McCain, I'd appreciated it, since I will be writing about it tomorrow and providing information to those in the media who don't seem to have a clue.

:hi:

[depakid]

16. It's mostly a matter of public record

and there's stuff among Republican insiders over the years to dig through.

Facts are facts.

Then again- The Daily Mail is pretty good for the emotional impact- and they have the added benefit of being right there with the Elizabeth Hasselbeck mindset.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

;-)

[FrenchieCat]

19. Thanks!

[depakid]

20. You're more than welcome

And there's so much more....

[Tarheel_Dem]

10. From your keyboard, to God's ears.

I am so sick of the negativity generated here at DU, by the "super-concerned".

[FrenchieCat]

12. You mean relatively low count posters who have been here for years?

yeah. dormant concerned dogooders.

[Tarheel_Dem]

18. Exactly. They only stick their heads out to take a shot at our nominee.

And then there's the PUMA crowd who only come out to tell us the sky is falling. :puke:

[HispanicUprising]

13. Can we get past the personal issues?

We're so easily obsessed. It's like a freakin' soap opera

[FrenchieCat]

14. I will when the media does. Till then, I'm right there with them,

but pointing my finger at the similarities of the behavior instead of the similarities of party id.

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[symbolman]

33. Personal Issues?

These are MORAL Issues. I haven't cheated on MY wife, and I don't want someone running the country who DOES, because anyone who will Cheat will also LIE, and STEAL.. My mom told me that years ago, and it's damn good advice.

Doubly worse for someone who Demands those Standards tom everyone Else, like scumbag Republicans, like John McCain who Lies all the time, cheats his countrymen so he can Steal our hard earned money to give to Corporations..

A Soap Opera? Nope, a Standard which those that Fail will adhere to, or pack their fucking Bags..

Like this "have a beer with" bullshit, what's next, "go have a whore with"?

Of course with McCain and his rich wife it's now, "someone you can go have a Beer Company with"...

:)

[calimary]

15. EXCELLENT response here in this thread - from DUer misanthrope:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3756372

Just hit back with this:

"Do extramarital affairs disqualify one from public service? I don't know. Let's ask john mccain!"

More details here:

THE WIFE JOHN MCCAIN LEFT BEHIND
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

AND:

McCain's Broken Marriage and Fractured Reagan Friendship
Friday 11 July 2008
by: Richard A. Serrano and Ralph Vartabedian, The Los Angeles Times
http://www.truthout.org/article/mccains-broken-marriage-and-fractured-reagan-friendship

[FrenchieCat]

17. Excellent!

I will be writing much in the next few days. This will help. Thank you.

[David Zephyr]

21. The difference is Edwards went back to his wife and McCain just dumped his altogether.

I hope you are right, but I fear the media will let McCain skate.

[pennylane100]

22. Also there were a lot of rumors about an affair

with a lobbyist a while back. I am so fed up with the double standards the press seems to have about two timing republicans vs. democrats.

[Major Hogwash]

52. As long as when they talk about it, they don't get Dee Dee Meyers to talk about it.

She is a twit. She laughs everything off as not being important to voters. But, a lot of voters do care about such things.

Although, I think the affair story of McCain was just wishful thinking on his part.

[TexasObserver]

24. Agreed. This story will naturally lead to John McCain's trashy past.

[Major Hogwash]

25. It already has. One of the people mentioned McCain's wife is his 2nd wife on Lou Dobbs last night.

And more conservatives watch that program than liberals.

[TexasObserver]

26. Media will pick Edwards' bones, then look at McCain ...

... then rehash the whole Bill Clinton Canterbury Tales.

[truthisfreedom]

27. This situation is a SERIOUS problem for mclame.

Wouldn't want to be him for the next few weeks.

[Cosmocat]

30. Sorry, not even ...

Again, they are going to guilt BO as much as possible by association, and ignor McCain's past completely ...

Then, if it starts to in ANY way to effect McCain, they will fall back to - we have moved past the time when personal stuff like this should be a part of the elective process - and this happened SO long ago ...

[bklyncowgirl]

28. For that to penetrate to the few undecided voters out there you'd need the media to bring it out.

Good luck on that one. They love thier Straight Talk Johnny.

[quantass]

31. MSM wont let that happen.

[Sonny Disposition]

34. RE: I think Edward's affair will cost John McCain points in the polls.

I'm not so sure. None of the coverage I saw brought up McCain's past indiscretions. I Wonder why this stuff hits Democrats harder than Republicans.

[Blue_Roses]

35. did you see how quick John McCain answered that reporter's question

when he asked him about it. It was "I have no comment," all most coming out of his mouth before the reporter finished his question. McCain knows he better not open that can of worms. It can only bite him in the ass.

[LonelyLRLiberal]

50. Somebody needs to ask McCain what he thinks of the wall-to-wall media coverage of the Edwards affair

and make him answer the question, if he has enough of a mind left to grasp the question.

[darius15]

38. No, it will hurt Obama

because Edwards and Obama are similar. I remember times in the debates where Edwards and Obama would agree and Clinton would fight both of them at the same time.

Plus, you think the media is gonna remind people that McCain had an affair? Please.

[blogslut]

39. Pfft!

Only the most deluded of fools would associate JE's affair with Barack Obama. Well, delusional fools and the ratings-slave MSM.

[darius15]

40. My point exactly

[blogslut]

41. Your point was that it will hurt Obama

I disagree. The majority of Americans are hip to the line of BS that's been served to them for the past 8 years. They're not better off than we were 8 years ago or even four years ago. Times are tough and when times are tough, people get real. The personal problems of a man that isn't running for office won't make a whit of difference to the people that are voting to kick the bums out.

[Cosmocat]

47. Exactamundo ...

The MSM will play it loud and long, as long as it is a DEMOCRATIC scandal and they can slip BOs name into the conversation ...

As soon as the dots start connecting to McCain, it will get shut down ...

[AZBlue]

42. We can help that by pointing out when the media is inconsistent.

Whenever they report on Edwards' affair, McCain's should be mentioned right in the same story. If they don't, we can contact them and point out their double standard.

[CitizenPatriot]

45. absolutely damn straight

it's all I can think about it is just so awful

does he have no character at all?

snip from the article above:

Ted Sampley, who fought with US Special Forces in Vietnam and is now a leading campaigner for veterans’ rights, said: ‘I have been following John McCain’s career for nearly 20 years. I know him personally. There is something wrong with this guy and let me tell you what it is – deceit.

‘When he came home and saw that Carol was not the beauty he left behind, he started running around on her almost right away. Everybody around him knew it.

‘Eventually he met Cindy and she was young and beautiful and very wealthy. At that point McCain just dumped Carol for something he thought was better.

‘This is a guy who makes such a big deal about his character. He has no character. He is a fake. If there was any character in that first marriage, it all belonged to Carol.’

[AZBlue]

58. I'd love it if Carol started speaking out.

I can understand her desire for privacy and respect that. But, if she felt that she could stand the media onslaught and come forward to remind voters of the Real McCain, she'd be doing our country a huge favor!

[mainer]

43. Yep. Infidelity is suddenly on the media's mind.

It's now okay to bring up McCain's first wife.

[totodeinhere]

48. I still think that adultery is nobody's business except for the people involved.

The affair that John Edwards had is between him and his wife. It is nobody else's business. And likewise, any affairs that McCain had are not our business either.

With so many important issues facing us why are we stuck on the irrelevant subject of adultery?

[liberal1973]

49. McBush

It seems to me Mcbush had affair ,because cindy and her wealth would be a great help in him getting up in his aspirations in politics.

[my3boyz]

51. The media is going to drop this story because they don't want people to find out abt McCain's true

character.

[Prophet 451]

53. Disagree

Knowing how the MSM operates, they'll keep playing endless stories about Edwards's affair but say precisely nothing about McCain. On the off-chance some unscreened caller or something brings it up, they'll insist that was different or that it's ancient history and go straight back to Edwards. The MSM have learned that you can get away with quite stunning hypocracy if you're brazen enough about it.

[Honeycombe8]

54. I don't think it will. One thing is....McCain's was many years ago.

It is arguable that he is a very different man now. In fact, the Dems ARE arguing that McCain is very different now from what he used to be.

It'll hurt the Dems, but I don't know how much. Esp since he endorsed Obama.

It's not good.

[liberal1973]

55. I disagree

Mcbush hasn't changed the guy is with his mistress/wife. Mcbush is not with carol.

Everytime mcbush is seen he's with his mistress/wife. The image is there.

That's how fked up the hardball show was on this topic. It mentioned Obama a number of times and mcbush once.

[Cosmocat]

56. YEP, and again ...

that is my point of reference ...

3/4 of the show was about Edwards ... That I can remember, there was ONE mention about McCain, and countless mentions of Obama, and until the two female media people at the end, to a MAN, they all said OBAMA had to answer the question about infidelity ...

It was surreal, but 95% of the time the media IS surreal ...

I repeat ... They will play this thing up until the cows come home as long as it is a DEMOCRATIC scandal and they get to mention BO somehow ... The moment the dots start connecting to McCain, they will spike it ...

[Joe Chi Minh]

57. Got it n one! And because of the sanctimonious maundering.