I just saw another Dem dissing MoveOn and 527's....

[trumad]

This one was a Dem Congressman siding with the Faux talking head that MoveOn should be condemed just like the Swifties.... He has no rebuttal at all... And of course he falls right into the trap of the Bush/Hitler ad that was never a Bush/Hitler ad for the Dems.

I am shocked and dismayed that I am more up to speed on the proper talking points than a Democratic Congressman.

Talking point number one:
MoveOn tells the truth, Swifities do not!
Talking point number two:
Bush used 527's to his advantage against McCain in 2000 so quit saying that we started it all.
Talking point number three:
The Bush/Hitler ad was one of thousands that were entered for a MoveOn contest. MoveOn did not use the ad in anyway.
Talking Point number four:
When will the President pick up the phone and call Perry in Tx. and tell him to knock it off?

More help on the 527's...er OK..here it is:

MORE ON THOSE 527s. My colleague Matthew Yglesias rightly notes that President Bush's denunciation of 527s is hypocritical and self-contradictory. This is especially true given (let me add some more examples) that the campaign finance law the president signed just a few years ago deliberately avoided closing the 527 loophole; that Bush beat Sen. John McCain (R-Ari.) during the 2000 primary in part with the help of a 527 run by his supporter Sam Wylie; that Bush's own campaign manager, campaign counsel, and political guru (Ken Melhman, Ben Ginsburg, and Karl Rove, respectively) have attended fundraising and organizational events for Progress for America, a 527 founded by Bush's political director from the 2000 campaign, Tony Feather; that GOP chairman Ed Gillespie and Bush campaign chairman Mark Racicot recently issued a statement designating PFA and yet another GOP 527, the Leadership Forum, as a good place for Republicans to give money to; and that the second-biggest 527 in the U.S. is the Republican Governors Association, a group spun off by the Republican National Committee two years ago specifically to collect and harness soft money for state and local GOP candidates.
If President Bush is opposed to 527s, somebody better tell his senior campaign staff, and quick.
http://www.prospect.org/weblog/archives/2004/08/index.html#003629

[ClassWarrior]

1. Which Dem Congressman? Where?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

2. Why don't you write to that congressman and complain to him?

Why complain to us? we didn't do it.

[trumad]

3. UGG

No shit.... I vent... Can I Vent?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

4. I don't mind if you vent - IF you also write him with your comments

DU is great therapy, but sometimes the best therapy is to take action.

[trumad]

5. I've sent 5 emails this morning to various media Ho's

but thanks for educating me on the process...:eyes:

[Feanorcurufinwe]

9. I'm not saying nor am I trying to imply

that you need any education from me. Nor am I in any way trying to criticize you, cast aspersions on you, belittle your efforts, et cetera. I'm simply engaging in discussion and I mean no ill will.

so - I'm curious -- you say you've written to various media Ho's -- have you written to the Congressman in question? Who is it? If you haven't written, I will, although the critique might mean more from you since you actually saw the performance.

[SemperEadem]

6. what great material

I've yet to have a conversation with someone where I have to refute the lies of the bush campaign with regards to Dem 527's, but with this information you've provided, I can be armed with facts to refute their spiel.

Thanks for posting this.

[Democat]

7. The Republicans have a phone number they call for talking points

Before any Republican goes on a TV show, they call a phone number to get talking points from the White House.

Our side either doesn't have a similar service or people aren't using it.

Either way, it needs to be corrected right away. Democratic reps on TV shows are too often weak and uninformed!

[dennis4868]

8. tad devine....

of the Kerry campaign team also said that Moveon.org had an ad that compared Bush to Hitler and Kerry asked them to knock it off....that is a flat out lie! As you said, Moveon.org had only a contestant entry to be used for an ad and never had an ad that compared Bush to Hitler......by the way, Bush's website has a video comparing Gore, Kerry, Dean, etc...to Hitler.

[el_gato]

10. Which Congressman, We can't contact them if you don't say who it was

Writing to the media whores will never work but you can target these
politicans effectively.

[hughee99]

11. Just wondering about 527's

Since a canidate can't ask them to run an add, can a canidate ask them NOT to run an add? Wouldn't this also violate the rule on political connections to 527's. Would a canidate calling up the head of a 527 and making any request violate CFR and the rules governing 527's? I'm not clear on the rules for 527 and canidate connections.

[IndianaGreen]

12. 527s have made the playing field even

while we may not agree on what some 527s have put out, we must admit that to restrict them would be a further infringement of free speech.

Bush said what he said because he wants MoveOn silenced. Let's not give him the pleasure!

[radfringe]

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