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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:54 AM
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Surprise: EMPLOYEES of some oil companies prefer Obama
Surprise: Employees of some oil companies prefer Obama
By David Lightman | McClatchy Newspapers


WASHINGTON — Maybe Barack Obama is wrong in insisting that John McCain is the darling of Big Oil. Maybe it's really Obama.

A new study from the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, released Thursday, notes that "while McCain has raised considerably more money from this unpopular industry, CRP was surprised to notice that it's actually Obama who has received more from the pockets of employees at several of Big Oil's biggest and most recognizable companies."

Overall, McCain has gotten about three times as much from the oil industry as Obama. But employes from Exxon, Chevron and BP have all given more to Obama than to McCain.

According to CRP:

"Through June, Exxon employees have given Obama $42,100 to McCain's $35,166. Chevron favors Obama $35,157 to $28,500, and Obama edges out McCain with BP $16,046 vs. $11,500. McCain leads the money race with nearly every other top giver in the oil and gas industry, though -- Koch Industries, Valero, Marathon Oil, Occidental Petroleum, ConocoPhillips, the list goes on. McCain also has a big edge with Hess Corp. -- $91,000 to Obama's $8,000 -- which has gotten some attention."

Overall, McCain's campaign has gotten three times more money from the industry than Obama's has -- $1.3 million compared to about $394,000.

So, CRP concludes, "Comparing Obama's and McCain's financial ties to the oil industry, there's no question that McCain has benefited more from the industry's contributions, just as his Republican Party has for years and years."

But, it adds, "Obama's edge with the oil producers Americans know best — and might be cursing most these days — makes it harder for him to continue to tar McCain as the industry's darling."

Read the study at link~

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/46749.html
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:56 AM
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1. K & R!Thanks for posting!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:58 AM
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2. I heard them lying this a.m. on Scab, so thought this needed to be
read. Massive Scab FAIL.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:01 AM
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4. LOL."Scab", that was a good one.
:D
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:01 AM
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3. and thedem idiot on Morning JOe did NOT have ANY of that info to combat just
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 07:02 AM by Gabi Hayes
that charge!

all he could come up with was a nonspecific platitude about big oil and McCain...not one fact among the many you cite above

they went after him on this, not believing that this could be true, and acting surprised that Obama could be getting that much money from big oil

he wasn't fast enough on his feet to make the distinction between employee contributions and the figures you cite.... it was another exercise in frustration

he SHOULD have hit them hard with outrage at the sleazy tactics of trying to parse the difference between employee donations and overall money coming in

and this was (Robert) Gibbs, communications director! he doesn't communicate very well with his own minions, apparently

I'm disgusted

I could have done better than he did, and I'm an idiot

thank you
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:09 AM
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5. I think that Obama needs to play this up ...
"McCain has received three times as much as I have ... but it's from the high-paid executives. My money comes from more of the regular folks ... the actual people down there on the front lines, getting their hands dirty."

As Ed Schultz puts it ... "Representing the people who take a shower AFTER work"
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:09 AM
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6. that's a VERY dishonest story!!! the numbers belie the thrust....big time!
when you add up the employee contributions, only three companies give Obama an edge, to the tune of about thirty five thousand

Hess more than DOUBLES that, and they don't even mention the other companies!!!

WTF is up with that

and to top it off, the overall number is triple for McCain

am I missing something there, or is this total BS, completley inaccurate, and slanted to give the impression that Obama is a hypocrite

christ on a thighmaster
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:11 AM
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7. Maybe it was written before the big push for McCranky. I don't know,
but McClatchy is usually a reputable source. I imagine the Center for Responsive Politics isn't trying to pull anyone's leg.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:46 AM
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9. if I'm reading the quotation mark placement correctly, the CRP is in the right on this.
the way this jagoff (sorry for the language) misinterprets the numbers is STUNNING!

he ignores the overall numbers, as WELL as the Hess numbers, and takes into account only the other three!

isn't that correct? I think so

do you see what a twist of the facts this "interpretation" is?

I made a comment about how disappointed in McClatchy I was on your Lieberman VP thread.

the author of that article was ALSO this Lightman spitoon

wonder what his deal is......
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:39 AM
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8. So that is what all that noise from the right wing hell hounds was about
:wow: To listen to them, Obama was getting all this money from the companies itself, instead it is McCain, and Obama is getting funds from the employees? Can they spin it any harder? McCain has this ad on locally about how he has NEVER taken any money for his state from those add ons, but he says nothing about being up to his teeth with lobbyists. Let me see, you refuse to work for your state by getting money for them (there is good and bad on that I know, some go to the extreme), but you McCain are a lobbyists dream for your own benefit.

What am I missing here?
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:38 AM
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10. heh, the difference between contributions to O from those of Mc****
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 08:40 AM by nc4bo
are; Obama said that although he has(d) received contribs from oil comps, that in no way meant that they would have any control over his Administration nor his policies. In other words, he took their money but he couldn't be "bought" by big oil.

(I haven't checked up on the WHO who contributed. If in fact it was simply employees giving on their own behalf, what's the big deal? Gonna go read into it more closely.)

Can we say about Mc****?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:41 AM
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11. Some major contributors always give to both sides.
Some big companies encourage their top people to give to one of the top two candidates, so either way the election goes, the company has access through people who were "right" with the winner early.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:45 AM
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12. I see the MSM is still comparing the gas station attendant to the CEO and lobbyists
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:59 AM
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13. McCain's popular with the bigwigs
but Obama's popular with the rank-and-file workers.

Unfortunately, this seems to be too difficult for the media as a whole to grasp.
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:13 AM
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14. Obama is the front runner but oil has clearly switched support to McCain
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 09:13 AM by seasat
Open Secrets doesn't really provide the information about what kind of job the employees from oil companies have that are giving to Obama in their report. One of the posters on that site did look it up for Chevron and found that the majority was from donors giving less than the maximum amount; mostly middle management, IT, and engineers. Even if the executives have given to Obama it may be simply be because he is the front runner.

The other thing that puts this into perspective is the increase in contributions from Oil companies to McCain right after he spoke out for offshore drilling. If you go the graphic at the bottom of their study, it becomes clear who the oil companies support and think will benefit them the most. McCain is leading Obama by a huge margin.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:24 PM
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15. anyone who cares about the country would
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:24 PM
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16. anyone who cares about the country would
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