Is Mitt the Potential Problem I Think He Might Be?

[ObamaIL]

Anyone from MI who can give a feel for his popularity there? I know his name goes way back.

And Nevada/West the Mormon vote has to be tough to beat. Anyone know if Colorado has a significant Mormon population?

[Fire_brand]

1. Mit would have the same problem as VP he had a prez candidate

he looks good on paper, but he's not a good candidate in reality. he comes off as a bit of a douche bag.

[ObamaIL]

2. Bears on at 7 BTW

[27inCali]

26. da bearz

[jakem]

17. yeah, "a bit..." lol!

[book_worm]

3. In my humble opinion he would be one of the easiest of all VP nominees to define

all you would have to do is show clip after clip of all the bad things McCain and Mittens said about each other during the primaries--and believe me there was some bad stuff. I also don't buy the business about Mittens delivering Michigan. His dad was popular there once forty years ago, but Mittens has been out of the state most of his adult life. I think he would make a 60% McCain win in Utah more like 70% and yes, he might help in Nevada too.

[Muttocracy]

4. Nevada, Utah - few electoral votes? He used to be governor of LIBERAL MASS!!!!111

[AllieB]

15. And there's no f*cking way that would help McCain in Mass

Mittens isn't too popular here.

[C_U_L8R]

5. Romney's got a glass jaw,

peroxide teeth, hair color that defies nature, a suntan that lasts all year long, a gameshow host's inflection
and not a single original idea in his head.

Bring it on baby !!!!

[Muttocracy]

16. He reminds me of Guy Smiley from Sesame Street. nt

[Motown_Johnny]

6. Popular with older people here, who tend to vote for the old guy anyways...I don't think he swings

the middle here at all. (I could be wrong)

[ObamaIL]

9. How did McCain do in the Primary, Do You Recall?

I know Mitt won pretty handily, but I forget who was the front runner at that point.

[blue_onyx]

11. McCain did fairly well

McCain got 30% compared to Romney's 39%. So, 61% of voters in the Republican primary voted for someone other than Romney. I don't think Romney did all that well for someone who is supposedly really strong in Michigan. I don't think he'll help McCain in the general election.

[Motown_Johnny]

18. Ummm..... I agree with the person who has only 3 posts.. and welcome back I guess

[blue_onyx]

20. lol...

Yeah, I don't post much but I have been coming here for awhile (I'm a lurker, I guess). I just got annoyed with people saying Romney was so strong here in Michigan (which I don't think he is) so decided to join in.

[Faygo Kid]

7. I'm from Michigan. His parents would be ashamed of him.

George and Lenore Romney were class acts. George was a fighter for civil rights, and Lenore was a vocal supporter of the ERA.

You know, the kind of Republicans that no longer exist.

He doesn't have built-in popularity, but they would manufacture it. I think he would raise a ton of money in Michigan for McCain, though.

Michigan has everything going against the Republicans. But it has a hard core of voting Republicans on the west side of the state, and it will be a tough state. Like the rest of the Midwest, if Hillary is tepid, or sends mixed messages, Michigan could shoot itself in the head and vote McCain.

[ObamaIL]

8. So Do You Think It Will Be Mitt

I kind of think it's a no brainer for McCain. Romney is Romney but picking off Michigan would be HUGE.

[Faygo Kid]

10. I think Mitt's the front runner, but that's a long way from guaranteeing Michigan.

Mitt's been gone a long time.

I still don't think McCain likes Romney, and McCain may feel he needs to shake things up.

Nevertheless, I think McCain-Romney vs. Obama-Clinton is far more likely tonight than it was a week ago.

[Cosmocat]

12. People here dismiss Romney at their own peril ...

McCain has NO business being even in the range he is with BO ...

Why, the media ...

WHY ON EARTH do people think the media is going to 1) relay any of the negative's about the guy 2) do anything OTHER than paint it as a masterstroke on McCain's part, and paint Romney as THE definitive figure in relation to the economy ...

I have no clue what impact he would have in Michigan, but I have to believe he helps a good bit in Nevada/NM/Montana ... However, I think he hurts McCain in Ohio/Indiana and the south ...

[RayOfHope]

13. You didn't ask, but the fundies in MO would go apeshit if it were Mitt.

Even my super repuke relatives who aren't very religious don't care for Mitt because he's Mormon. They are already lukewarm about mcsame, and I think a mcsame/mittens ticket might make them stay home on election day.

[Motown_Johnny]

19. Excellent point

[JerseygirlCT]

14. He's got that. He's got some executive experience, though

I think most in MA wouldn't be praising his performance. And he's certainly got the LDS vote sewn up.

BUT he'd be a turn-off from the other religious right folks. To them LDS are not Christian. And not being Christian is, well, downright unAmerican!

He's also got lots of money, but I suppose that doesn't really help if McCain has to do the public financing thing.

Maybe just help pay off the campaign's expenses after McCain loses?

[inthebrain]

21. up

[yardwork]

22. Mittens doesn't really add much to the ticket - Utah is already the reddest state in the country.

Colorado is split about evening between lunatic right-wingers and progressives. The lunatic right-wingers there will vote for whomever the Republicans throw up, won't matter who it is. I don't think that Mittens helps particularly in Nevada (see Colorado). AND Christian evangelists deeply distrust Mormons.

[GirlieQ]

24. Did you see the Southpark episode on Mormons?

It was pretty much the 'average' Coloradoan's sentiment. And if you haven't seen it, it's hillarious and you can find it online and should watch. Then you have the Focus on the Family ilk in C Springs, and they, well, aren't excited at all about McCain to begin with. Throw a Mormon (OMG! CULT!) on the ticket and watch fundies stay home. Maybe on the Western Slope he'll see a bump from a higher Mormon population, but the folks I know who were raised Mormon (and I live in one of those progressive-ish cities so I could be totally wrong) are rather on the liberal side of things.

Although, that 'life begins at conception' bullshit bill is on the ballot this fall, too, so maybe the fundies will get out to vote no matter what. I still think that Colorado is Obama's.

[yardwork]

27. I didn't see it. I'll check it out. Thanks!

[darius15]

23. First off

this home state advantage everybody talks about if rubbish. McCain & Obama probably only get 6-7 percent bumps in their home state, it's not that much. And for a VP, the bump is even less. Romney could help McCain get 2-3 percent in Michigan & Mass, which probably won't be enough to turn them red.

[FormerConservative]

25. Won't his mormonism be a huge issue with some of the fundies?

[vixengrl]

28. I'm not from Michigan, but here's my take--

I can watch Mitt Romney with the sound off.

With the sound off he's good. He could stand to loosen his tie. Maybe undo a button of his shirt, just tease us with the top of his undershirt, you know. He looks tall and his hair is great and his face is the kind that looks kind of right with a little age on it. You know. So you start to think about Mitt. The way people do. If they go for tall and handsome with a great head of thick chestnut hair and that kind of virile way about him that says, "President? I'll be your Daddy."

And you think to yourself, "Wow. He might just not even *be* really socially conservative. I bet he isn't, not really. He might know, like, stuff about economics...he's not the worst thing in the GOP by a lot. And I think he might've said something reasonable about foreign policy like, I think in a debate, about timetables--so..."

Then I put the sound on.

Oh wait--not really presidential. Kind of anchorman-ish. Hmm. Maybe I'll turn the sound back off. There was a reason he spent a lot of money to lose with.



(Disclaimer: Don't judge. There's people you've watched with the sound off, too. Maybe. I can't be the only one. What, really? Sometimes, politics really does make me feel cheap.)

[CitizenPatriot]

29. good question

he went to my school but he was older than me. never heard anything good about him as an alumn- he was the crazy religious guy. but then, money talks you know?

and I agree re his parents, though I never met them, but growing up in that area, the country club republicans were big. as a group, they cared about social issues, were fiscally responsible and conservative and gave a lot of money to charity. These were not religious nuts- usually Presbyterians mixed with people of the Jewish faith in that area. They are appalled by what a bunch of fruitcakes the Reps have become, but they also are loathe to admit just how bad it is.

[Franc_Lee]

30. Mitt Romney, no problem, even McCain beat him, Obama is way out of his league...

[foo_bar]

31. I thought he'd win the primary

I still don't get how McCain came out on top, but I guess their base prefers a known evil to an unknown anything. The veep probably can't be Romney since the Southern fundies are already on terra infirma with Señor Jowls, winning Utah is a given for them and winning Mass is nah gah happen, so betting the farm on the son of a famous Michigander might be suicidal unless the enchanted Reagan hairpiece can whistle dixie.