"Obama wants to open up off-shore drilling! He's anti-environment!"
"Obama wants to stay in Iraq!"
"Obama is for warrantless wiretapping of Americans!"
"Obama is pro-corporate!"I'm not even going to get into public campaign funding or any of the other furious fables out there. If you buy any of the above canards and start spreading them around, you're going to get our goose cooked... and you're likely not the brightest or most diligent blogger in the 'sphere. I suppose that's why it's good that you're here. The other type of person that spreads this garbage is a troll, and right now, the trolls have a 'get out of jail free' card to keep themselves from getting canned. So long as they say; "I'll still vote for him, I'll just have to hold my nose.", or some other variation on that theme, they can disguise themselves as 'marginal' supporters while deliberately spreading falsehoods about the candidate.
The best we can do is is our due diligence to get to the
truth of these issues so the trolls and the media are less effective at brainwashing anyone who reads DU and other blogs.
Let's go over them one at a time;
"Obama wants to open up off-shore drilling! He's anti-environment!"Absolute, unmitigated
garbage.
No one, anywhere, can provide a quote
in context that shows Obama is
Pro-Drilling. It doesn't exist. That alone should be enough to set off the 'I'm being manipulated' warning bells, but apparently, it is not. I will therefore explain;
Obama is
AGAINST off-shore drilling. He has never been
FOR it. He believes it is not a very good solution, and the potential hazard it represents nullifies any benefits that might be gained. Hell, he's probably more against it than I am.
What he said was that
it may be necessary to compromise on that position in order to achieve a workable energy policy. He knows that the Republicans are unapologetic obstructionists that throw temper tantrums when they don't get their way. Allowing some form of limited drilling
in order to achieve REAL solutions that we so desperately need is a small price to pay.
When you're dying, and the only cure comes with shitty side effects, you take it... you compromise something small for the greater reward of
staying alive. Obama wants to save this nation, and when he says he's willing to compromise by doing something he's against, that just means he's
serious.Politics without compromise is a car without gasoline, an engine block, or wheels. You won't get anywhere without it, and anyone who's been around a while and doesn't understand that yet needs another hobby.
"Obama wants to stay in Iraq!"Here's another one with zero basis in reality.
He's always said he wants a timetable to bring the troops home within 16 months of becoming President. That timetable has always been dependent on conditions, and he's stated as much all along.
In early July, the media screamed that Obama 'flip-flopped' on withdrawal from Iraq by saying that he would consider the situation on the ground. Here's what the media brainwashed the uncritical with variations on;
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) on Thursday backed off his firm promise to withdraw combat forces from Iraq immediately and instead said he could “refine” his plan after his trip to Baghdad later this month.
Earlier, a top Obama adviser had said that the senator is not “wedded” to a specific timeline.
"Backed off"?
"Firm promise"?
How many of you bought that?
How many in the media told you he "softened his position"?
Go ahead, google "Withdrawal" "Obama" "Iraq" and "softened" and see what you get. Oh heck... I'll do it for you;
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS254US255&q=%22iraq%22+%22obama%22+%22withdrawal%22+%22softened%22The FACTS?
This is what he said in November;
November 2007: Obama Said U.S. Has To Make Sure "We Are Not Just Willy-Nilly Removing Troops" And That It May "Take A Little Bit Longer" In Some Areas Where There Is Less Stability. "According to all the reports, we should have been well along our way in getting the Iraqi security forces to be more functional. We then have another 16 months after that to adjust the withdrawal and make sure that we are withdrawing from those areas, based on advice from the military officers in the field, those places where we are secured, made progress and we're not just willy-nilly removing troops, but we're making a determination – in this region we see some stability. We've had cooperation from local tribal leaders and local officials, so we can afford to remove troops here. Here, we've still got problems, it's going to take a little bit longer. Maybe those are the last areas to pull out."
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/01/us/politics/02obama-transcript.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin"Softened" my ass.
And how many here fell for that?
"Obama is for warrantless wiretapping of Americans!"Yeah, right. A Constitutional Law professor
for not seeking warrants for wiretapping. That's like a surgeon who's "for" not sterilizing his equipment.
Like I said before, Obama has stated that he was against the bill. Why did he vote for it? Well, I'm sure it was just to piss off his left-wing support... right? Obviously that's his intention because he doesn't
really want to be President!
I mean, sheesh, what other explanation could there be? If you're pissed off about it, then there can't
possibly be another explanation, right?
Or how about; He's the one running for President, and he has to consider factors
beyond your narrow scope of Earth-shattering issues. I know, I know...
YOUR perspective on the issues is the ONLY one he should be considering. It's not as though he looked at a bill he could do nothing about, saw how the RW and the media (Which we've already seen how willing they are to lambaste him for ANYTHING) could turn it into a 'soft-on-terror' meme that the McCain camp would be hammering to this minute, and decided that perhaps his base were
Sophisticated enough to understand that he had to step in shit to dodge a bullet.
But that would be just crazy. :eyes:
Back to serious world; He could do
NOTHING to stop a bad bill
now, so he took the
best tact he could
on his path to the Presidency so that once President, perhaps he can do something about it. Let's get him elected
first, and then hold his feet to the fire
when he can actually do something about it rather than when he can't. That too complicated?
"Obama is pro-corporate!"Yeah, of course he is. It's not like he voted to strip telecom immunity from a bad bill or anyth...
http://www.votesmart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?cs_id=17112&can_id=9490...Oh... right, he did.
But it failed, and he found himself in the aforementioned position of calculating his best course.
Then, we can look at his whole record, his donor demographics, and everything he's said and realize he's far more populist than corporoate by a vast margin.
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490Well, here we are with a couple sets of people;
The indiligent, the uncompromising, and the trolls.
The indiligent can learn. Read this post, do a little research, and understand that this 'flip-flop' and 'pro-corporate' image is propagated by the RW media and clever trolls who escape the light by pretending they'll vote for Obama
The uncompromising, who believe that even the vague appearance of not being totally on board with their philosophy and pet issues mean that the candidate is 'just another politician', may have a point, but if it touches on any of these, it's not based in reality. Just keep in mind, if you can't compromise, you can't expect to get what you want. Welcome to politics.
The trolls... well, just keep lying your asses off until we start to axe you based on your formula, then, from whatever hole of a discussion board you hang out on, you can watch all of your efforts fail miserably, watch Obama be sworn in on January 20, 2009, and then enjoy the prosperity, security, and peace he'll work toward providing for
all of us whether you like it or not.
Because we aren't falling for your bullshit anymore.
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