Mark my words: It`s Bayh!

[Hope And Change]

5.I just got an invite from the Obama campaign to attend an appearance on Wednesday that isn't on Obama's official calendar. Why not? The campaign said, "I can't tell you what the event is about, but we want to make sure you have a ticket so you can cover it for the Bilerico Project. We want Bilerico Project to be there for this one."


more...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bil-browning/obama-will-name-bayh-his_b_116752.html

[Thrill]

1. Not a chance

[Parche]

2. Clinton Pick Would Be A Landslide

But...............:shrug: :popcorn: :hi:

[democrattotheend]

9. Picking Bayh may have been a gesture to Clinton and her supporters

She might have even pushed him behind the scenes. Bayh was a big and early supporter of hers.

[Skwmom]

Of course the Clintons want a Clinton supporter as VP. Then if something were to

happen to Obama, Hillary would be called upon.

[Skwmom]

42. In 04, the Clintons also pushed for Edwards as VP. Of course,

I heard from long time party activists that the ticket was to be Kerry/Edwards and it would be a close race but Bush would win. Then Clinton would run in 2012.

If Clinton pushed for a VP, why in the heck would Obama listen to that advice?

[Inuca]

60. I hope it is another false signal

like all the Kaine-hype last week. I understand the possible reasons for picking Bayh, but I would find the choice disappointing. We shall see...

[Inuca]

61. Ooops, sorry, meant to reply to the OP n/t

[JTFrog]

69. For McCain.

[DJ13]

3. Oh God I hope not

If Obama wants that kind of strong Hillary supporter he might as well just name Hillary.

[harun]

34. I would rather Hillary over Bayh any day. Bayh is not the way!

[Connie_Corleone]

4. I've been trying to warm up to the idea even though I'm not excited about it.

But, I guess he's better than Chet Edwards.

The only question I have is do we lose a senate seat with Bayh being VP?

[Hope And Change]

8. I guess so.Indiana`s Governor is a Republican.But correct me if I`m wrong.

[book_worm]

28. If the GOP governor is re-elected, then yes we would probably lose a seat.

[Coexist]

5. hmmm...

[nomaco-10]

6. I was hoping for biden, but...

I thinks it's down to Kaine or Bayh. At least nunn is hopefully out of the running.

[Hope And Change]

11. Me too.But I trust Obama`s judgment on this one.

[nomaco-10]

54. I am with you, I completely defer to Obama's judgement.....

He hasn't steered us wrong thus far.

His campaign has been nothing short of brilliant.

[SharonRB]

12. I'd prefer Biden, too

But hopefully he'll name him Secretary of State.

[SharonRB]

7. I think he's right

I'm not thrilled with it, but with his schedule in Indiana this week, I've been thinking it would be Bayh anyway. I really do think he'll announce before the Olympics, so Bayh it will be. I would have preferred Biden.

[Parche]

14. Joe Bayhden?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :hi:

I would have liked Biden, or Clinton....

:hi:

[nsd]

10. I kind of hope so, if only because the suspense is killing me.

I've got to get a hobby.

[Cha]

71. It's okay..it's

only our country:)

[bunnies]

13. A supporter of the illegal Iraq invasion.....

beautiful. That would be just beautiful. :banghead:

[Douglas Carpenter]

21. not just a supporter, an enthusiastic cheerleader for invading Iraq

oh well, if this turns out to be the case, at least I will be reminded to pray every day for the perfect health and well being of President Obama. President Obama, long live!! May your health always be perfect and your judgment grow wiser!! And may you never, ever listen to the voices clamoring of war and destruction!!!

Bayh was an honorary co-chair of the neocon pro-war Committee for the Liberation of Iraq

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/bayh_as_veep_he_cochaired_wing.php

The Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI) is pleased to welcome Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) as an Honorary Co-Chairman. Bayh becomes the third U.S. Senator to join the committee after Sens. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) announced their participation on January 28.

The Committee is a neo-con group that was formed to propagandize the country into war. It boasted such illustrious neocon members as Bill Kristol, former CIA director James Woolsey, and even McCain senior foreign policy adviser and Chalabi-bamboozler Randy Scheunemann, whom Josh has been blogging about.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/bayh_as_veep_he_cochaired_wing.php

[cbc5g]

30. I'm trying to figure out Obama's reasoning on this

Maybe he knows he will get the anti-war vote and wants someone who was for it in the beginning but knows better now? Maybe he is trying to put indiana in play so that republicans will have to spend money there thereby making them have to spend in so many states that it isn't effective anymore? He needs to bring the Clinton people back? I don't really get this.

[Douglas Carpenter]

41. I suspect he realizes that he will get the anti-war and progressive/liberal vote anyway

And of course I'm sure he realizes that Arab-Americans and Muslim American are going to vote for him anyway.

Of course Bayh does have the "experience" in terms of having eight years as Governor of Indiana and ten years in the U.S. Senate. And he is highly favored by organizations such as AIPAC. Also I suppose the selection of a Clinton loyalist could be a sop to that wing of the Party.

Most importantly, polls show Obama and Bayh running almost dead even in Indiana. The selection of Bayh could conceivably help break the tie. Perhaps he would be viewed as helpful with other Midwestern toss-up states.

I don't question it strategically. I simply don't believe that the selection of someone with his foreign policy record and worldviews are good for the country, the world or the cause of peace.

Like I said, I shall pray every day for the perfect health of President Obama and that he be protected from bad influences of bad company.

[Skwmom]

43. There goes the judgment argument.

[bunnies]

44. Geezus. I'd forgotten about that.

Its even worse than I thought. How the HELL could Obama pick this guy?! HOW? :banghead:

[SOS]

73. It's the worst possible choice, I refuse to believe it

1. Voted for the war. Undercuts the judgment positioning.
2. Republican Governor.
3. Red state. Bush beat Kerry here 60-39.
4. Chairman of DLC 2001-2005. Obama made it clear he was not a DLC member, based on the their positions.

This would be almost as bad as Gore picking Lieberman.

[cbc5g]

15. I'm also trying to warm up to it but he seems to me like Edwards in 04

And I just don't know how I feel about that.

[Cosmocat]

35. He is NOTHING like Edwards ....

Outside of being a middle aged white guy with a haircut that stands out ...

For the love of god, where do people get this ???

1) Edwards was a FIRST term senator with no other political experience and no political roots ... Bayh's father was a highly successful governor ... He himself was Secretary of State, a two term governor and is in his third term as senator, with top committee assignements ...

2) The NC/Indiana comparison is horrible ... NC was NEVER within Kerry's grasp, as far as NC people were concerned, Kerry lived 6 states away and was one of them there evil northern liberals ... Indiana is VERY much in BO's grasp, it lies next to Illinois and Obama already has polled even or a point or two up for months now ...

I just heard the MSM droll on Bayh, that he is uninspiring ... If that is the worst they can do with him, then he is a great pick ...

[tulip]

16. I posted that earlier in another thread................

There is more........Indiana is a buzz today. None of the major news outlets are saying anything. It's mum..............but Indiana media is all over this. There are 2 sources I believe to be pretty reputable.

http://www.howeypolitics.com/2008/08/04/what-to-read-into-obama-bayh-in-elkhart/
Barack Obama’s coming Wednesday visit to Elkhart has renewed speculation that U.S. Sen. Evan Bayh could be added to the Democratic ticket. But there’s far more we don’t know than what we do. This is a speculator’s game at this point. No one outside the Obama inner circle really knows what’s happening.

http://www.politics1.com/blog-0808.htm#0804
The new buzz this weekend -- and, let's face it, even the so-called experts are all guessing here -- is that Obama plans to announce Evan Bayh as his runningmate on Tuesday. Why? Because the Obama press corps was informed over the weekend they will be in Indiana on Tuesday and Wednesday, yet there are no campaign events in the state on Obama's published schedule.

[longship]

17. Consider this about Evan Bayh

He's a Dem Senator in one of the most conservative states in the country. Like other in this category (e.g., Nelson-NE) he has to vote fairly conservatively to get reelected. I've met Evan Bayh personally. He's far more pragmatic and quite a bit more liberal than his Senate voting record indicates. He's very intelligent, very charismatic, and he's more than a decent orator. Furthermore, when he gave the keynote Jefferson-Jackson speech at the KS state Dem Convention in the 1990's he had more than a little fire in his belly.

Bayh isn't my first choice, but he'll do just fine. I think we need to trust Obama on this.

[Phoonzang]

20. Don't forget that he was governor of IN for two terms...

So he doesn't have the weaknesses of most Senators.

[Connie_Corleone]

23. I've also noticed that he has been voting more to the left the last couple of years.

[harun]

38. He was a chairman of the DLC, are you kidding me?

[Windy]

18. absolutely HORRIBLE!!! The worst choice he could make outside of Hillary Clinton.

If it happens, I and many others will be very very disappointed. There are much better candidates out there.

What a shame.

[shadowknows69]

19. Eww, just eww. Could have done better IMO.

[Milo_Bloom]

22. This might be the end...

Unfortunately, not a ticket I could vote for.

[nsd]

25. Consider the alternative.

Even if this is for real, Obama-Bayh is infinitely superior to McCain-Romney (or whoever). Not voting Democratic is equivalent to voting Republican.

[Milo_Bloom]

32. I'd vote 3rd party.

I'm tired of the slow bleed strategy.

[Danieljay]

31. So, who then WILL you support? No wonder the Dems continue to lose. We can't come together for

anything.

[Milo_Bloom]

47. I would vote 3rd party.

Winning is meaningless if nothing will change.

[cbc5g]

51. VP's don't determine policy..Unless your name is George W. Bush

Sorry that's not a valid excuse

[Milo_Bloom]

53. VP's signal the candidate's intentions

A pick like this means Obama is not serious about anything upon which he has campaigned.

I don't need an "excuse" to not vote for Obama if I do not feel he will do a good job in office.

[Hippo_Tron]

81. The Vice President cuts ribbons and breaks ties in the Senate

I don't see how this would signal his intentions about anything.

[Milo_Bloom]

85. It tells me what type of people he trusts and believes in.

and wants a heartbeat away from the presidency.

If that person is a war-mongering, biggot, then I do not trust Obama's judgment.

[Danieljay]

65. Meaningless? So is your vote for a third party candidate. Ironic, isn't it? n/t

[Milo_Bloom]

75. Not at all.

The vote would have meaning.

[catgirl]

70. freeps don't vote dem anyone

Don't lose any sleep over him/her- won't make a difference. Obama
will win no matter who he picks for V.P.

[book_worm]

33. So who will you vote for then Nader? or some other person without any chance of winning

but could take enough votes away to help McCain win.

[Milo_Bloom]

48. Winning is meaingless if nothing will change.

[Danieljay]

66. Meaningless is also your third party vote. How ironic. n/t

[Milo_Bloom]

76. The vote will have meaning to me.

[Danieljay]

79. and its all about you, of course. I get it. n/t

[Milo_Bloom]

80. Yes, MY vote is about ME.

And how I feel.

That is why it is called MY vote.

[Donna Zen]

72. Evan Bayh shows that they are laughing at us

Bayh is currently ginning up for a war in Iran.

As one of the strongest forces in the senate for rounding up votes for the bankruptcy vote, Bayh sold out many of the elderly of Indiana. Why? The credit companies had no real clout in Indiana. However, after Bayh helped them in winning their middle-class killing bill, several of those credit card companies dumped money into Bayh's cash box. Without grabbing a book by Sirota detailing why Bayh was the only Democrat he labeled as a "hack", I think the amount was about $250,000. No bad. Bayh is on K-Street's speed dial.

Same old politics.

Oh...and why do the talking-heads continue to award foreign policy creds to people who get everything wrong? If I failed a course would I get a credit?

[Milo_Bloom]

78. Pretty much true.

I am hoping this is smoke an mirrors to make it look like he would consider this clown.

[GarbagemanLB]

57. Well, then you are an idiot.

The Supreme Court is reason enough to vote for Obama regardless of his VP.

[Milo_Bloom]

77. Obviously not.

If we can't trust him to pick a VP that follows his supposed principles, how can we trust him to pick a SC nominee?

This is guy who LOBBIED against gay marriage. If Obama can pick someone that close minded for VP you want to trust him with a Supreme Court nominee???

I think not.

[ecstatic]

24. They just called him " Sooo Dull.... Soooooo Stiff" on MSNBC nt

[Cosmocat]

37. Just caught that, and if that is the worst they can do ...

then it is a good pick, frankly ...

[Skwmom]

26. So a guy who voted for the biggest debacle in U.S. History is supposed to tell Obama when he (Obama)

is wrong?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

27. Ick.

I sure hope you're wrong.

:puke:

Another DLCer? What a disappointment that would be. :(

[SuperTrouper]

29. It would be disappointing and not energize most of Democrats

I hope that this is only a decoy.

[my3boyz]

36. I would not trust Bayh if I was Obama. He was too close to Hillary

She could probably convince him to mess up so that Obama could lose if she promised him a VP spot when she ran again. I'm hoping that Obama is choosing that location to throw people off and has his real vp pick there. Of course that would be a slap in the face of Bayh if that happened but it is better than him being on the ticket.

[AllexxisF1]

39. Good God ...

Byah would be an absolute horrible pick.

[Blue-Jay]

40. and to think that people used to accuse Al Gore of being stiff and boring...

Bayh is a robot straight out of "I, Mudd".

[IndyOp]

45. Yep.

My best hope here is that Obama will name Bayh for "something else" -- though I can't think of anything else I'd like Bayh to do at the Cabinet level or elsewhere.

CRAP.

[nsd]

46. When does Obama go on vacation?

I though it was pretty soon. Would he really make the VP announcement and then just take off for Hawaii?

[grantcart]

49. I doubt it but if he was going to pick Bayh as a gesture to Clinton supporters I would

rather he pick Hillary than Bayh.

[tedoll78]

52. I'm wondering if this whole Indiana thing is a head-fake.

Does anyone know where Hillary is going to be tomorrow? Or any of the other potential VP nominees?

Obama's team seems like they'd prefer an element of surprise to this major announcement..

[grantcart]

59. I think he is paying respect to Bayh before he goes in another direction

[Inuca]

62. And I hope you are right n/t

[jesus_of_suburbia]

50. If it's a male.. I hope you are right. Bayh is the best male choice except Clark.

[tekisui]

55. If true, there goes our chances at a filibuster-proof majority.

I guess the Dems will at least still have the obstructionist pukes to blame....

"We still don't have the numbers, do we Evan?"

[Phoonzang]

56. Found a video of Bayh vs Lieberman on Faux

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzr9BCttZ6M

[nsd]

58. He does good. (nt)

[Cosmocat]

88. This is what I am talking about ...

he was getting double teamed by a couple of right wing suck butts, and he dug in and fought it in a steady manner ...

[BigDDem]

63. If it's Bayh

please wake me up after his acceptance speech.

[AzDar]

64. I certainly hope not; he brings nothing to the ticket, IMNSHO.

Evan Blah...

[Hope And Change]

67. Bayh Partisans cancel softball game

August 04, 2008
Categories: Bad behavior

Bayh Partisans cancel softball game

Sen. Evan Bayh’s staff softball team, The Bayh Partisans, has cancelled the game it had scheduled for tomorrow evening with the drug policy team The One Hitters. Bayh staffer Jonathan Stahler sent One Hitter team captain Kris Krane an e-mail Monday morning citing “(t)oo many people out of town” as the reason for the cancellation.

Rational minds may note that it is early August, a time when congressional staffers often head of town. Other minds, however, might ponder the fact that Bayh, a top veep prospect, is scheduled to introduce Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) at a rally in Bayh’s home state of Indiana Wednesday.

Krane, executive director of Students for Sensible Drug Policy, asked Stahler if the cancellation had anything to do with “an important announcement of national significance on Wednesday? ;-)”

He got no response, so The Crypt called Bayh’s office. “Our softball team is a juggernaut, so I can’t see why we cancelled a game,” said spokesman Eric Kleiman, who added that the Bayh Partisans are “the toast of the league.”

Kleiman, however, dismissed the suggestion that the cancellation had anything to do with any upcoming announcements. “Oh, my goodness, no,” he said.


By Ryan Grim 05:27 PM


http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0808/Bayh_Partisans_cancel_softball_game.html?showall

[JTFrog]

68. NO PRO-WAR BUSH ENABLERS ON THE TICKET.

Obama will never jeopardize his ticket with a pro-war bush enabling 50% NARAL rating Senator that would destroy his message that he has better judgment than the republicans.


Every five minutes someone posts their secret-inside-but-we-really-cant-tell you source.

Get over yourselves.

[nsd]

74. I think it will be Bayh, but it won't be Wednesday.

There would be more chatter on the internet if Wednesday was the big day. And Obama is about to go on vacation. Newsweek's Isikoff reported that he was told the week before the convention was the most likely time.

[highplainsdem]

82. God, I hope not. Bayh will NOT help the ticket. Obama needs Clinton. No one else can help him as

much.

And if the Obama campaign thinks that choosing someone who supported Clinton during the primaries will seem like a fine substitute for Clinton being on the ticket, they're deluding themselves.

[ncteechur]

83. I absolutely hope not. That would be a crappy decision and my faith in Obama

would be challenged at that moment although I will still vote for him. I am already a bit pissed because he has been taking it on the chin for about 2 solid weeks.

He needs to get back on Offense.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

84. SHIT I hope not. If he does, he can kiss the WH goodbye

[Heather MC]

86. I Hope not, both Hillary and Bill have come out with Limp-dick endorsements this week

Bill showing he is not over the primaries and still mad
a strong Clinton supporter is bad bad bad
didn't Bayh say if asked he would turn it down.

[nsd]

87. No, Bayh never said he would turn it down.

In fact, I think he's publicly said that if Obama asked him, he would say yes.

Bayh isn't really a Clinton person. He considered running against Hillary for the nomination and dropped out only when it became apparent that Obama was going to be her main competition. And Bayh doesn't owe anything to the Clintons. He was governor before Bill was elected president, and he certainly wasn't helped by Clinton in Indiana, a state Clinton lost both times.

[JTFrog]

89. Or maybe they will just talk about how Obama's energy plan helps Indiana.

:eyes:

Add another to the oh so credible source list.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[WinkyDink]

90. The GOP slogan: "Obama Bayh-Bye!"

[BigDDem]

91. I'll keep asking, maybe someone will eventually answer

Is it acceptable now to have voted for the war?

A few months ago it was not, total deal killer, off the table.
What changed?? Is it now ok?

I'm very curious, any ideas?

THANKS!!!!!!!!!