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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 08:57 PM
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John McCain may not be racist,
Edited on Sun Aug-03-08 08:58 PM by gulliver
but is he willing to accept racist votes? If McCain is no racist why doesn't he condemn racists outright. If one condones racists and accept their votes, what does that say about one? Bluntly, why does't McCain come right out and say that racists can go to Hell, and he doesn't want their votes?

This whole thing about Obama playing the race card stinks to high heaven. McCain is in the party that accepts racist votes without complaint. He is in the party that makes common cause with racists. Methinks he doth protest too much.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 08:58 PM
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1. How do you accept votes? Is there a way to screen voters and
reject their votes?
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 09:00 PM
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2. You say on TV...
... Hey, any of you racists out there, I just want you to know that you should vote for someone else. The country would be better off without you. I don't want your votes. Go die.

Some of them would not vote for him after that.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 09:03 PM
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5. So you think a candidate should tell people
do not vote for me because of the color of my skin. Is that right?
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 09:04 PM
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6. Didn't Edwards essentially do that?
Didn't he say something along the lines of "if anyone's voting for me because they can't accept the idea of a woman or an African American as president, I don't want their votes?"
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 09:06 PM
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8. Yes, he said it in the SC debate, I think.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 09:00 PM
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3. I doubt that he is, but he is definitely pandering to the racists
that's what the repubs have done for the past 40 years
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 09:01 PM
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4. and I'm sure if some reporter asked McCain "Is Obama Muslim?"
he would do a "Umm, well, he 'claims' that he is not, why are you asking me?"
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 09:05 PM
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7. That would be a stupid question, don't you think?
I mean, it would show the reporter to be stirring the pot, especially considering that this has almost been asked. http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/26/mccain-repudiates-hussein-obama-remarks/
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 09:08 PM
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9. yes, it would be a stupid question.
Edited on Sun Aug-03-08 09:10 PM by ErinBerin84
but do you really think we have cracker-jack journalists in this country that are not above asking stupid questions? I mean, John McCain obviously benefits from all of the "he's a Muslim!" rumors, email smears are probably half of what's keeping his joke of a campaign going at this point. Yet his campaign can claim to be pure as the driven snow, and say "Why, whatever do you mean?", ala swift boat. John McCain was just dandy with the Hussein thing until the media questioned him for it...his campaign is getting increasingly desperate especially now, so I doubt that kind of stuff will be re-appearing.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 09:11 PM
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10. McCain has just been saying racist things for longer than Obama was in his "militant" church...
... as part of his super-long-term plan to be president by pandering to the racist voters.

In fact, when he was a child and his mother used to have to throw him in a tub of cold water to end his temper tantrums, it was so he could appeal to the Republican base as an adult.

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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 09:23 PM
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11. McCain stays out of it, but
There's a concerted effort on from the right wing to make this election about race. Its no coincidence that McCain's out of the blue race card accusations come in the same week as the right wing promoted sleazy guilt-by-association accusations using the rap star Ludacris.

It goes straight to the top. Today, George Bush, his father and his brother Jeb called up the Rush Limbaugh show and gushed praise and congratulations on the lying, hating and racist host. The GOP obviously approves of inflammatory racial programming on the radio.

Limbaugh followed up the president's call with his often used racist pronouncement that only blacks are allowed to criticize blacks and whites are forbidden. Limbaugh maintains this even though he smears Obama daily himself. McCain attacks all the time too. Limbaugh's pronouncement is designed to inflame racial hatreds.

Limbaugh then put his staff member, Bo Snerdly, on the air. Limbaugh says Snerdly can criticize Obama because Snerdly is black.

Then Snerdly impersonated a black stereotype who was angry with Obama for condemning lyrics by the rapper Ludacris. Then Snerdly said he would "translate" his comments for the "brothers and sisters in the hood," implying,if not outright saying, that blacks can't understand plain English.

Snerdly then went into a rant using slang that supposedly "the brother's and sisters" could understand. He said "yo" this and "homey" that all the while pretending to be an angry black on the side of Ludacris, who is the current object of right wing outrage. One message of the whole bit was that blacks endorse the offensive statements by Ludacris.

Limbaugh routinely uses Snerdly this way. Limbaugh describes his overall theory of race in politics as the "liberal plantation." According to Limbaugh's theory, liberals provide welfare to blacks so that blacks will be poor and need the government, and thus can be enslaved by liberals. Blacks are willing coconspirators, presumably because they prefer welfare to working, and call any black who wishes to work hard for a living an Uncle Tom. With his theory, Limbaugh promotes the idea that all blacks are lazy and on welfare, hate blacks who work, when in fact 88% of blacks are employed, compared to 93% of whites. Limbaugh also assumes that blacks are too stupid to know what's good for them and blacks are all in a big dishonest conspiracy together.

A general theme of Limbaugh's show is that blacks and liberals are the real racists and that white conservatives are under constant evil attacks from those who wish to continue "the liberal plantation." In reality,the whole theme is there to provoke white anger at blacks and liberals.

The GOP has been using racism as a wedge to get white votes since Nixon came up with the plot. If the president can call up a bigot like Limbaugh and congratulate him on "important and excellent broadcasting" and even go on to say he appreciates "the contribution you've made" then the entire GOP must be completely comfortable with racial hatred as an election tool.

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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 09:32 PM
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12. All republicans are racist to the core
It is impossible to be loyal to this version of the GOP without
being a vicious, vile, bloodlusting, lynchmobbing racist.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 10:09 PM
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13. Republicans are 'stupid evil'. They are so stupid they don't realize
how evil they are. :dem:
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 10:47 PM
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14. A trip down memory lane....
McCain's Bob Jones University?
November 22, 2005

Washington, DC - Despite criticizing President Bush for campaigning at Bob Jones University in the 2000 Presidential campaign, Arizona Republican Senator and potential 2008 presidential candidate John McCain will begin his Thanksgiving recess today in Alabama endorsing a candidate who has addressed, and even praised, a prominent white supremacist organization.

McCain is throwing his weight behind Alabama Lt. Governor candidate George Wallace Jr., a man who has given four speeches to the racist Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), most recently in June 2005.

The CCC was created from the mailing list of the old White Citizens' Councils set up in the 1950s and 1960s to resist efforts to desegregate southern schools. The late former Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall once referred to the CCC as the "uptown Klan." According to its website, the CCC's mission is to "oppose all efforts to mix the races." <http://www.cofcc.org/manifest.htm>

http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/11/mccains_bob_jon.php
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