They've GOT to do SOMETHING and SOON...

[PCIntern]

Is this how it works every time...that we nominate someone and set them up to be destroyed by the slime-machine and we just sit there like assholes AGAIN? If they just allow this to happen...I'm out...out of the process, out of involvement, out of caring. If THIS is how we're going to lose, then THAT'S THAT, I'M DONE...FOR GOOD. If they want to come and take me away and put me in a fenced-in camp in Nebraska somewhere, that's ifne...I'd rather be interred somewhere and isolated than have to listen to this and watch this unfold before my eyes. And don't tell me he's keeping his powder dry. Fuck that...if they don't 'fire' soon, he's gonna be a cooked goose.

SHIT! OK, I worked for the McGovern Campaign and understood what was going to happen there from the beginning. Mondale, threw it away at the debate, Dukakis wasn't going anywhere fast, but for crying out loud, we watched them destroy Gore and Kerry. If THEY THINK that this crap is going to just SLIDE off Obama, they're NUTS.

Or,,,maliciously destructive of our Party, aided and abetted by our Party.

Moving to Idaho if this happens...swear to God..well, maybe not quite,...but CLOSE!

[babylonsister]

1. Relax, would you? All the hand wringing isn't helping. nt

[PCIntern]

3. RELAX?

Ask Presidents Kerry and Gore what happens when you RELAX...

[babylonsister]

4. Yes, RELAX!

We've got a long way to go, and a few debates to get through, where Obama will shine.

McGrumpy is bound to screw up as he does early and often. And the m$m isn't swallowing his performance as readily as they once did.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6567513

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6569924

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3717321

[Drunken Irishman]

20. Both Kerry and Gore were losing in the polls, EC at this time.

Obama is not.

[tedoll78]

2. Be ready for the flood..

..the same folks who swore in 2004 that wimpy Kerry would be fine.

[DuaneBidoux]

5. Sorry you're so tense...but you are right, unfortunately.

If McCain keeps this shit up we need to do the same thing back but very subtley. Here is my ad:

So McCain is making fun of Obama's "Celebrity Status"? The fact that he inspires, the fact that the world and many Americans like him. That's mature...real mature.

[Labors of Hercules]

16. NO.

You cannot win an argument, so it's better not to engage in one and buy into what McCain wants to talk about... He needs to hit back by changing the subject and knocking McCain out on something that HE wants to talk about.

Like maybe the fact that McCain is Bush.

[Whisp]

30. Nance had a great line in another thread:

It’s said that you have to fight fire with fire. But when is the last time the firefighters in your neck of the woods showed up at a burning building with flame-throwers and gasoline? Obama has chosen to fight fire with water – and it works.

[PCIntern]

32. No, you're mistaken...

water controls the blaze, allows that which is being destroyed to be destroyed and stops it from spreading. If a guy tries to light your house on fire with a match, you hit him from 30 feet with a flame-thrower or a bazooka. Then HE's the one with the problem.

[Whisp]

35. this time is different.

and the times are different.
Hillary didn't get it and neither does McCain. They were going by the old school rules, the ones that worked for far too long.

Not This Time.

[Happyhippychick]

6. I agree with you. Sitting around is what lost us the elections in 2000 and '04. I'm ready to fight

and fight dirty.

[woolldog]

11. I thought the butterfly ballot was what cost us the 2000 election?

[Happyhippychick]

19. You might have a point there...

[PetrusMonsFormicarum]

7. High road for a bit longer

Obama needs to keep to the high road for just a few more weeks, allowing the media to continue defining McCain's campaign through his stupid ads and sillier statements.

I have a feeling that the guns he's withholding are being reserved for the bastards at Freedom's Watch like Ari Fleischer (FW just hired Rove as a consultant, and I refuse to dignify with a hyperlink), who are under no fundraising ceilings like the candidates.

[enough already]

17. NO MORE HIGH ROAD!

He can't let these cock-sucking liars define him for one more damn day. The polls are already even. Take off the fucking gloves and fight back for crissakes.

[Whisp]

33. yep. He has something in waiting.

and timing is everything.

[pretzel4gore]

8. the guys mugging Obama mugged Uncle Sam!

gettit? they MUGGED Uncle SAM! They robbed him and left him in the ditch bloody and beaten! Now they doing SAME THING to Barack Obama (and before that, Kerry and Gore/Clinton/carter)
Can't we turn this thing to our advantage? The people despise the ms media already...

[mloutre]

9. Jeebus, yo, take a deep breath and quit with the extreme panic already.

Obama and his team know what the hell they're doing, that's how they got here. Give them some space and let them do their thing.

In the meanwhile, take a deep breath, run around the block a few times, knock back a couple of mojitos if that'll help, but please calm down before you have yourself a stroke or something. Oy.

[PCIntern]

18. Do they?

Are you certain? I heard this in 2004 when the Swiftboating started.

[Youphemism]

10. Nothing means much until the debates begin...

Sure, you don't want to get *way* behind in the polls early on... But the campaign will be won or lost only after the debating season begins. The content of the debates, the campaign moves that surround them, and the world events that occur during that period will shape the battle and dictate the ground upon which the election is determined.

We're just listening to the warm-up band now. I've been to a number of great concerts with warm-up bands that totally sucked.

[morningglory]

38. The drooling idiot* in chief looked stark staring insane in the debates, and

look where he is today. In one of the debates he had foam at the corners of his mouth.

[Imagine My Surprise]

12. Thanks for posting...

I thought it was just me. But I'm right there with you. Unamused.

[pot luck]

13. If you're so concerned about our prospects, do something about it.

Tired of the viral e-mails about Barack? Write one about McCain and mail it to everyone in your address book (I would suggest the Forrester Fire; who cares if it isn’t true). If you’re upset about McCain’s Anti-Christ ad, make a big stink about how it insults your religion and get others to back you up (It doesn’t matter if you’re a Christian or not). If you’re upset that we don’t have any 527s, do an online fundraiser for some poor, under funded 527 group. Don’t just complain. DO SOMETHING.

[PCIntern]

23. You don't know to whom you're speaking...

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, since you haven't been around too long.

My bona fides do not need explication here. I was referring to the camapign, not my personal actions which are significant beyond your understanding of me, believe me.

[FrenchieCat]

14. Are you watching cable news?

because if you are, that may be the problem.

[AllentownJake]

15. Yep

We got caught off guard and as long as people are talking about Paris and Brittney they aren't talking about the economy.

[bigwillq]

21. Obama can't go negative.

Doing that is old politics. That's the risk you take when you campaign as the change candidate.

Going negative would make him a hypocrite.

But he can defend himself without going negative. He could attack McLame's record, which is only pointing out facts. He could also send some attack dogs out speaking against McCain. People like Biden, Dodd, the Clintons, etc....

[babylonsister]

22. Kerry and McCaskill were out yesterday. With the recess, I'm

hoping more will follow. Add Webb to that list.

[bigwillq]

25. That's great.

Good for Kerry and McCaskill. I am sure more will after the recess.

[PCIntern]

24. Ex-actly...DEFEND YOURSELF YOU PUTZ!

Don't make jokes, don't sneer...defend yourself against the Rethugs. NOW! RIGHT NOW!

[Hoof Hearted]

26. Hey man, take it easy on Nebraska.

It's not THAT bad.

[PCIntern]

27. They ain't gonna put the Camps in Brooklyn, ya know!

:hi:

[JCMach1]

28. Dukakis was up by 20pts.... 20 pts... What is Obama's lead...?

ummmm it's 44-44

and team Obama's response to a week of attacks was to look weak by shifting positions on energy-- a position that will most likely now cost him Florida where he was gaining traction because of McCain's position.

[Whisp]

29. et tu Brutus?

listen, Obama brought down the king and queen of the democratic party that likes to play by republican rules. he was a nobody coming out of nowhere slaying that dragon.

I have confidence that he knows what he is doing. He's got a track record now. an exemplary one.

I know faith is a 5 letter word, but have some.

[PCIntern]

31. And "loser' is a 5 letter word and I'm tired of losing

to amoral shithead lying sacks of holier-than-thou shit, OK? I'm tired of sitting back and watching these 'campaigns' out-think themselves...where is the "have you no decency" moment?

That's what I'm waiting for...maybe you'll have it at the debates - maybe you won't. Wait for the debates? Giuliani waited for Florida. Lotta good it did him.

[Whisp]

34. McCain is not the true foe here, it's the press and the Military Industrial Complex that owns them..

as it has been for a couple elections now, and probably more elections than we want to know.

I do understand your frustration.
but when Obama says: Not This Time.
Asked me this a few months ago and I would have guffawed.

I have come to believe him.

[quakerboy]

36. What are you doing

to fight the smear. You personally. How many people have you straightened out?

[Moochy]

37. p to the l to the o to the n to the k!

thats how you spell PLONK