Have some Obama Supporters Lost their Minds? Obama/Bayh?

[KoKo]

You've gotta be kidding. What kind of ticket is that? :shrug: Yet there are DU'ers saying if Obama couldn't choose Hagel because he is a Republican and that would make the "lefties" angry...they should choose Evan Bayh?

Google Bayh and see how he has voted. He's a DINO...and that this Repug Sychophant could have gotten elected when his FATHER was REALLY a great Progressive Leaning Dem...makes me wonder "who got to Evan" that he "turned."

Anyway..."Obama/Bayh" as a ticket seems like a real "DOWNER." "Bye, Bye Obama" will be what Faux news and the rest of them scream from the high posts of the RW Media.

It's dreadful. You, who are Obama Campaign Ops here on DU, need to KILL THIS ONE RIGHT OFF. It's a DEAD TICKET!

[BlooInBloo]

1. They're not Obama supporters. They're Clinton supporters.

[mod mom]

2. exactly...they're looking for a corporatist who supported the war. Bayh is NOT change.

[pnwmom]

4. Garbage. They could be anyone.

Most of the former Clinton supporters I know hope either Clinton or another woman (such as Sebelius) is V.P.

[Cosmocat]

9. This is an example ...

of the reason people are lacking in relation to Bayh ...

For the record, I got on board with BO late last year ... And, only now can I begin to stomach Hillary after all the nonsense she and hers spewed in the primary ...

AND, I will repeat ... Up until about early June I thought BO was going to pick a very dynamic progressive ...

But, this is now, and the media narratives have started to take shape ... People who think Bayh would be a bad pick 1) simply are not in tune with what is going on NOW 2) simply don't get that what makes them, as very leftward leaning people, not like Bayh is what makes him a VERY strong VP pick for BO ...

IF he goes with Bayh, it will be a VERY good pick ...

[pnwmom]

17. Well, Bayh would certainly be a better pick

than Hagel.

Hagel's the only one who scares me. (Or Lieberman, but it won't be him.)

[emilyg]

8. Bull.

[Motown_Johnny]

3. Bayh represents a red state, he can't be as left as someone from a blue state and expect to keep his

seat


The "battleground" states in the rust belt don't want or need a far left VP. Bayh is a viable candidate who would help in OH, MI and PA. If Romney is the repug VP then we may need the help in MI.


I am not a Clinton supporter. I am a strong Obama supporter who wants him to win. If Bayh helps the ticket then I am for him.

[depakid]

5. If that were true, then why was his father an Indiana Senator for so long?

[Kolesar]

6. I suspect that the unionized autoworkers had a quite effective machine that helped Birch Bayh

I lived in Indiana when Bayh was Senator until the tragic election of 1980

[Romulox]

10. I've seen you assert Bayh could help win Michigan several times...

Could you clarify why you believe this to be so? I admit I don't know him that well, but my perception is that Bayh is yet another third-way "New Democrat".

Do you hear too many people in Detroit yearning for more corporate Democrats? :shrug:

[Indiana_Dem]

7. Remembersome positives about him if it happens--

he consistently votes pro-choice and pro-environment from what I've seen. I hate the rest about him, too, but he's as good as we can get in Indiana because of all the conservatives in this state. It's amazing he crosses party lines here with his pro-choice record.

I personally would prefer MT Gov. Brian Schweitzer. He is pro-environment, pro-choice, pro-civil unions, backed by the NRA, speaks Arabic and lived in the mideast, is a rancher and has a high degree in agriculture/soil science, is very strong pro-renewable energy. I think he was also vocally against the Iraq War.

[saltpoint]

11. Asked if he was being vetted by the Obama team for the vice presidential

shortlist, Bayh confirmed that he was.

The decision appears to have been the Obama campaign long before any DUer is for or against him.

Evan's a team player. He isn't going to get into an ideological controversy with the boss.

That, plus I think the Obama camp knows what it's doing in general.

[goodgd_yall]

12. He's good for winning Indiana, BUT listening to Obama on Meet the Press

He made it clear that he wants someone who shares his vision for the country and implied that picking someone to win a swing or red state wasn't one of his criteria. Hearing that made me start thinking differently about who he will pick. I don't think Kaine is in the running after all.

[dansolo]

18. But it doesn't preclude Kaine

Obama said that the state they were from wasn't a criteria, but that doesn't mean that he wouldn't pick someone from a swing state. Kaine fits the criteria that Obama has laid out, was a very early supporter, and the fact that he is from VA is just a pleasant bonus.

[DesertFlower]

13. obama said on "meet the press"

that his VP will share his vision for the country. he will be a working VP -- not someone who attends funerals. at this point, i have no idea who it might be.

[elocs]

14. You know, they actually vet more than 1 person for a reason.

Even if Obama knew who he wanted from the start it would not be much of a secret if they only vetted one person. I think they throw out some far out choices just to see people rise to the bait and get all bent out of shape. Misdirection is another good reason.

[Gman]

15. It would be probably the most awful sounding of ticket in history

and ripe for the Obama/Bayh-bye jokes and remarks.

[Mass]

16. Bayh is senator in a Republican state, so, if Obama can count, he will not take him.

(Indiana governor is a Republican, so he would choose a Republican senator and we would lose a seat in the Senate, making it harder to break filibusters).

This said, I agree, but honestly, it is still a step better than Hagel or Powell, or other Republican names I have seen pushed here.