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pwb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:40 PM
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How many U.S. Presidents have been divorced? Answer, One
Only one in U.S history.
It is the family values party. the Republicans, who hold that record.
Ronald Reagan was married and divorced from Jane Wyman, before he married Nancy.
Just having some fun with the Family Values thingy.
I thought Cindy McCain could be our first Second lady.
Family values my ass.
Peace.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_presidents_of_the_US_have_been_divorced


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Fed_Up_Grammy Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:45 PM
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1. And Betty Ford was the first divorced First Lady.
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 08:49 PM by Fed_Up_Grammy
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:47 PM
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2. And Betty Ford is our only divorced First Lady, not that it really matters.
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pwb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:51 PM
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4. It only matters because of the Family Values
the pukes claim.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:49 PM
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3. I think Andrew Jackson's wife
was married before. It seems like she was accused of bigamy or something like that.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:53 PM
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5. You're right, and it became a major issue in the campaign.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:08 PM
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6. Right. I should have remembered that!
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pwb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:11 PM
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7. Maybe my wiki link is wrong
Just going by what they say. What party was jackson in?
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MrsT Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:31 PM
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9. Jackson was a Dem, but he would probably be a Republican today
in my opinion. I also think Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt would be Democrats today.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:32 PM
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10. Democrat
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:11 PM
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11. Andrew Jackson carried in his chest a bullet from a duel over his wife's honor.
A cad said Jackson like fast horses and fast women. Jackson challenged him to a duel. He accepted. Then days before the duel, the cad demonstrated his shooting ability by shooting the heart in an Ace of Hearts. He told people he would shoot Jackson through the heart.

Jackson knew the other guy was a good shot, and that he was faster and would likely get off his one round before Jackson could fire his gun. Jackson had his jacket altered by a seamstress, so that it appeared to be centered when it was not. The morning of the duel, in a misty setting, they stepped off their paces and turned to face each other. The cad fired, hitting Jackson in the chest. He remained standing, took slow aim, and killed the cad with his one shot.

Jackson had to sleep sitting up, because the bullet stayed in him for decades thereafter. It was lodged in his lungs, and a source of problems for him.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 11:09 AM
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19. Jackson's wife died before Jackson got inaugerated, so she was technically never first lady
Edited on Sat Jul-26-08 11:10 AM by ShadowLiberal
She did die after the election however. I'm not sure of the exact date, but I know that Jackson buried her on Christmas day.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 07:38 PM
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23. True, I had forgotten
that she never actually was First Lady. THANKS for setting the record straight.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:29 PM
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8. Prior to Reagan
No one who had been divorced could have run for President. The culture of the time would not allow it. I'm sure that some of our past Presidents would have been divorced had divorce not been seen so negatively at the time.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 11:08 PM
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12. In 1952, Adlai Stevenson was the Democratic candidate (running against Dwight Eisenhower).
One of the frequent political jabs against Stevenson then was: "Do want to see a DIVORCED man in the White House?"

pnorman
PS: I cast my first ballot then, and it was for Adlai ("Gladly For Adlai"). I guess that makes me "Older than McCain!"
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 08:54 AM
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13. You know, a lot of people get divorced for very good reasons...
...what is the point of this?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 08:55 AM
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14. didn't he have an affiar wih Cindy when he was married to his first wife?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:05 AM
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15. And others. But those other women didn't have Cindy's big, beautiful...
Bank account.

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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:27 AM
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16. "She had huge... tracts of land..."
From Monty Python and the Holy Grail
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 07:46 PM
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24. Yes he did. I always keep this link handy anytime I need to debunk those emails...
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 10:59 PM
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30. thanks!
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:33 AM
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17. The GOP, especially the Rabid Right, has spent a lot of time and energy
in showing they are the "Party of Morality" and the "Party of Lincoln", neither of which are more than cheap slogans by a dying "moral movement" that wishes to see everyone else but themselves held up for account.

One of the oldest tricks in the book is to portray oneself as the moral leader while casting doubts upon those whom you oppose. It appears to be almost a given that this a false pretense, as the greatest of thieves and philanderers are those who positions of "high stature". There appears to be a point that some people reach, when they feel they cannot be touched by the mores, rules and laws of a society. This is not limited to political office, it appears to be universal.

Take the recent Novak hit and run incident. Here's a guy who strikes a pedestrian, and leaves the scene of the accident, when cited, it was the old, "do you know who I am", scenario. This is not an aberration, it is something that many people of "stature" use as a way to avoid being held accountable for their actions. In Novak's case, he feels he should not be held accountable, simply because he's, well, Bob Novak, as if that "covered" the situation.

There are many things involved in this, but all they do is bolster the concept that "morality" is for everyone else; do as I say, (and don't dare look at what I'm doing). When caught in the act, inevitably, it is the "surprised" look that gives them away, then the "outrage" that they should be even considered "criminal" or "immoral"...(think Larry Craig, or any number of televangelists).

They hide their activity behind balderdash and slogans, just as cheap now, as they have always been. But that makes little difference, simply because while these people know they are dancing w/hypocrisy, they do not care...they honestly believe they are above mere mortals.

It has always been this way, and most likely will continue, one of the reasons I look at those who claim the "moral road" w/skepticism.


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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 01:58 PM
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20. The GOP's Holier than Thou image
not to forget those who prey on people in toilet stalls and wear kinky diapers.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 02:34 PM
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21. That is a good analogy, they see everyone else as prey...
not as human beings.

The whole ideology of neo-conservatism is based on using the "weak" to amass great fortunes and power.

For those who say they are "Christian" and uphold "values", it would do them good to actually read some of whatis written in the book. If ignorance is bliss, these people are doing some serious dancing...x(
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 07:56 PM
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25. it is unfortunate that the people do not hear the truth
they hear the talking heads and the likes of Fox who spin and spin. The diaper/restroom stall GOP members are revered. People believe them.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:47 PM
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26. As odd as this might seem, people clamor for the truth...
but when they get it, they run from it.

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:38 PM
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27. some
many are not interested! They don't want to have to worry about poltics.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 11:09 PM
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28. It's not just politics, the whole "truth" thing goes much further than
that.

People get into their zones of comfort, they do not want to be "inconvenienced by such things as truth, many resort to broad ideologies that bolster their positions and make fact finding a secondary or tertiary priority. These are really scary people, no matter what facts or truths are presented, they spurn them, they are terrified of learning something new; after all, that changes the equation and challenges deep rooted convictions.

In some ways, this is humorous, in others tragic. "Flat Earthers" are pretty funny, but religious zealots, regardless of the religion, can bring out the tragic. Take for instance the family that recently lost a daughter to a curable disease, but they refused her treatment on religious grounds. Where do we draw the line between people's firm belief in something, and the protection of a person?
What I found astounding though, was that the parents involved never thought that the deity they prayed to, (I don't know the religion in question, nor does it really matter), might have given us the capacity to learn new things, hence the treatment was available. They wanted a "miracle", most likely for some selfish premise, when they didn't get said miracle, it became "the will" of the deity in question. Truth of matter is, they did not help the girl, they had a hand in destroying her.

Point of the matter is, there are some who will always resist change, sometimes violently or with tragic consequences. Sometimes, the truth is hard to bear, so it is avoided. After all, once you read about a child molester, a murderer, the death of a young one or anything else, it is stored away in the memory, and while it can be repressed for some time, the cold fact is that avoiding reality no longer is possible.


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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:05 AM
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18. Nelson Rockefeller, Ford's VP, was divorced
He repeatedly ran for President, but with a highly publicized divorce in his recent past, he failed to win the nomination. Interestingly enough, he was the second person appointed Vice President under the 25th Amendment — the first being Ford himself. Rockefeller often complained that Ford gave him little or no power, and few tasks, while he was Vice President. Ford responded to this by putting Rockefeller in charge of his "Whip Inflation Now" initiative.

In November 1975, Rockefeller told Ford he wanted off the ticket, saying that he "didn't come down (to Washington) to get caught up in party squabbles which only make it more difficult for the President in a very difficult time..." Journalists speculated that Ford, a moderate, decided to drop Rockefeller in favor of the more conservative Robert Dole under pressure from the conservative wing of the party.

While VP, Rockefeller declined to live in the newly designated VP residence, choosing to live in his own luxurious home, though he donated millions of dollars worth of furnishings for the official VP house. He also continued to use his own Gulfstream jet in the first part of his term.
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hannah Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 05:52 PM
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22. Family Values
Seems to be a code word for the BFEE
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 11:21 PM
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29. remember tho...it used to be easier to kill off wives
sigh....the good old days
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