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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 07:52 PM Original message |
Dumb question: if more troops didn't make a difference in Iraq, why would they in Afghanistan? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. The Taliban |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. It is a whole different military situation they need to get into the |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
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GihrenZabi (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. What does this have to do with anything? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Post #2 said we must attack into Pakistan. My question was in response to broaden the war because |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Your thread was locked on that but you just keep |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. See my #23. n/t |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. I'm sixty years old, wars should be fought by old guys with less |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. How is it relevant and how is it any of your GD business? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. See my post #23. n/t |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. I don't think we should invade Pakistan. I think our first job is starting to get out of Iraq |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Agree. In the meantime, DoD still uses stop-loss to keep troops on active duty beyond their |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. That would be wildly unpopular,neither option is very good but stop-loss is worse |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 08:22 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Ignore it, they are just flamebaiting |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I'm making a point that McCain and Obama are both war-mongers. Afghanistan is not a threat to the US |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Bush like war policies? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Good point. n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. The Afghanistan peoples will solve their own problems, not some foreign invader. |
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Kdillard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. I thought Obama wasn't just calling for more troops which are desperately needed but also for us to |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. How many troops did the Soviets have there? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. They would've done fine if we hadn't given the Mujahideen our weapons |
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Bad Thoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Actually, some of the most successful receive liitle aid from US |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
29. Up to 104,000 at any one time; 13,836 killed over 10 years. Over 1 million Afghans killed. |
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Bad Thoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
6. The point of the Surge was not an injection of troops |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
7. "Why not build schools and give them some economic choices?" |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. it's harder to get control if people don't want you. Also, is the Taliban a threat to us or just |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 07:07 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Mostly to their own people, but they also happily sponsor terrorists |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. ''host'' terrorists would be more accurate. The ''sponsors'' were Saudi Arabia per Congress' |
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spindrifter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
9. The number of troops is not going to do anything |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
11. Increased aid is a crucial part of Obama's foreign policy |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
12. Because Afghanistan is not Iraq |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
13. Actually, Obama has said the addition of 30K troops would quell the violence. |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
14. because we coulda done it right in afghanistan. |
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ChimpersMcSmirkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
18. To be quite honest, I think we need to be raiding Pakistan more. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. You can't, and that's the problem |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 07:07 AM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Spot on |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. We would not be screwed. Pakistan would. If they sold their nukes to terrorist and one got here... |
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Levgreee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
21. Because right now they are undersupplied and under-manned |
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bobd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
27. Juan Cole - A Social History of the Surge |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
43. I am one of those... |
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muryan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 01:34 AM Response to Original message |
28. This isnt the urban/metropolitan fighting of Iraq |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. IMO some of the stability in Iraq is the result of communities completing their local version of |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. and figuring out that the al Qaeda (Saudi) foreign fighters were assholes who weren't helping to end |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
30. Well, that's Obama's plan. He plans on changing direction. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
37. there were reports last year |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-25-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. no one cares about helping Afghans. they want the poppies or the pipeline, nothing more |
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