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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:42 PM
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If Obama chose Howard Dean as his VP would you be happy, neutral, or sad
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 07:44 PM by book_worm
Just curious. Not that I think Obama will, but I do feel that Dean would have one big advantage if he were the VP--he would be a traditional VP nominee whose a real attack dog, while allowing the #1 to be "above the fray."
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:44 PM
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1. astounded
then happy.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:44 PM
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2. He could help in New Hampshire and Maine. He's an experienced Governor.
There are better choices, but I could live with it.
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Bryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:46 PM
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3. Sad
We need Dean where he is at the DNC. Oh, I'm sure Dean and Obama would find someone competent to implement their plans for the DNC and it wouldn't be the end of the world, but unless it guaranteed us a victory, the VP slot would be a pretty serious waste of Dean's time.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:48 PM
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4. I would be ecstatic!
Don't think it will happen though.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:51 PM
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5. That would be a "good enough" choice, but...
There are better men for the job, and better jobs where Dean is more needed.
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pennylane100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:53 PM
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6. It would be wonderful
but I do not think it will happen.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:53 PM
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7. DU is the only place where Dean would be considered as VP. He's where we need him!!!
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:55 PM
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8. I think he's better for us where he is.
I don't see him functioning real well in that sort of secondary position.

I like him fine, but I don't see it working.
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justinaforjustice Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:57 PM
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9. Dean Would Be a Magnificent VP Choice.
Dean is currently leading a DNC/Obama national voter registration tour in the South. I expect he will whip up white working class support for Obama. Dean is a very powerful speaker and an excellent tactician. He'd be great as either president or vice president.

The only downside I could see to Dean on the ticket is that his home state, Vermont, is already solidly in Obama's column. For that reason, I think General Clark, who is from Arkansas might bring better balance to the ticket. Clark is also a brilliant man and, with his military credentials, would be a good VP choice.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:59 PM
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10. Not gonna happen. Great guy, but no.
Dean has work to do this fall. He may have a place in an Obama administration (HHS Secretary?), but not as Veep.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:13 PM
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11. Thrilled
Governor Dean as tough and smart as they come.

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:17 PM
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12. Confused.
Dean is in the best position to change the way Democrats do things where he is, and the fact that he and Obama are of like mind on the 50-state strategy makes him more indispensable. Making him VP would handcuff him.
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marimour Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:23 PM
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13. Sad, b/c then I would know we are going to lose.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:50 PM
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14. He will not be VP, he will not be president. Doubt he will remain as chair after November.
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 08:52 PM by madfloridian
That was taken care of in 2003 when the Clintons ran someone against him, and everyone knew it.

He stood his ground, he stood with the rules during this primary. He paid a financial price, and he paid a price in popularity.

He has a wife who is a dedicated doctor, and who does not want to give up her practice.

He is too blunt, too honest, too outspoken to be president. He is not a very good game-player.

I am wondering why people keep posting this at DU. Dean is not and has not been popular here since 2003, like in September.

The tendency here is to think that we must have a person with foreign policy experience, yet they are the fools who got us into this war in the first place. You know all those foreign policy experts in both parties.

Yet one man who spoke out early on will not be president because he was mocked by the media, and because he will not beg his wife to give up her life and campaign for him.

Also he has said that the DNC becomes a political operation of the White House when a Democrat is president. He said he did not think he would be interested.

It's a shame, though. He is one of our best Democrats, one who truly loves the party. He has integrity, a rare quality.

The VP will be someone within the DC establishment, and they will be approved by the the policy shop wing of the party.


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:57 PM
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17. Part 2 of the WCAX interview is at the link as well. Videos included.
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:52 PM
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15. i would be in heaven.
he is actually doing it now while o is out of the country. dr dean is on tour in the southern states, trying to raise the profile of the down ticket dems. getting the message out. oh what a happy day that would be.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:54 PM
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16. I'd be damn near orgasmic!
Seriously, that would be the best possible ticket ever. I haven't given Dean serious thought as VP, because he said he wouldn't run for office while he was Chairman of the party.

Imagine whore media heads from here to Australia exploding over President Obama/Vice President Dean/Attorney General Edwards. :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:59 PM
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18. Happy. I'm not expecting it, but then I didn't expect the Berlin Wall to come
down either, and I didn't expect John Wayne would beat out Dustin Hoffman and Jon Voight for an Oscar.

So if it happens, it happens, and I'd be real pleased. Dean is a totally refreshing plus on the Democratic landscape if you ask me.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:44 PM
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27. i knew the wall would fall
but that john wayne oscar still has me shaking my head
true grit overall is a fair western but waynes role in the shootist is a more fitting nominee for oscar recognition
in true grit i saw the 2 worst actors ever kim darby and glenn campbell wayne look like barrymore next to these 2 wooden magpies
i just feel like it was givn for waynes body of work but had the acadamy waited it would have had a wayne film worthy of the award to nominate

i give clint eastwoods unforgiven as an example of how rewarding an unfinished body of work is a mistake
eastwoods film was so deserving of each award it took that no one can seriously say it was rewarded for eastwoods contribution overall
his body of work was finally rewarded but only because it had become rewardable
the film stands out as a great film and a great western unlike true grit
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:39 PM
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30. swampg8r, I love your analysis on many subjects, and you are no slouch
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 10:39 PM by Old Crusoe
at film either.

Nice stuff.

I agree, but was several steps behind on the TRUE GRIT set until your post. Several bullseyes. Nice.

Yes -- it still is a hurtful issue for me that Wayne's body of work was held higher than Hoffman & Voight's intuitive genius for those two roles.

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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:00 PM
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19. Stunned but thrilled!
:bounce:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:01 PM
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20. If they WON, I'd be happy!
:)
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:04 PM
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21. I would be truly estatic.
I couldn't think of a choice I'd like more.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:04 PM
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22. I don't really care who Obama picks as VP
As long as it doesn't hurt Obama's chances of winning (and assuming it's not some RW whack job).
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themaguffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:12 PM
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23. It 100% will NOT happen
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:15 PM
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24. I think very highly of Dean so would be very happy
who knows.

maybe.
wouldn't that be great. Most of the suggestions made so far leave me lukewarm, but I'd be hot for Dean as vp
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:16 PM
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25. Happy!
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intheozone Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:29 PM
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26. Happy, very, very happy!
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gabby garcia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:46 PM
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28. like a dream
come true!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:47 PM
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29. Happy... he is one hell of Bull dog and plays
a different game than Obama and would make a great VP
Wrestler vs Basketball

I would have no worries with him being a heart beat away from the president.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:13 AM
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31. Confused but pleased overall
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 02:15 AM by fujiyama
I think Obama has built a large part of his success on Dean's earlier campaign especially with respect to its grass roots fund raising and efforts to get younger voters out, but Obama took it to the next level. Where Dean's campaign kinda lost its way, Obama's kept competitive, disciplined, and maintained a broader coalition.

But Dean had and has the right idea, and he was able to at least (as much as he was allowed by the DLCers, Clintons, etc) to implement much of it through his position as DNC head, where he's been incredibly effective.

I think Dean would make a fine surrogate, and if offered, VP for Obama. Like Obama, he too has a history of showing correct judgment, even when that contradicted popular opinion.

But while I think Dean is a fine organizer, tactician, and strategist as well as attack dog for the Dems, as Mad Floridian stated, he's a bit too blunt and that hasn't won him favors from some of the other "powers that be" in the party. Also, Obama has done very well among many of those that were Dean supporters in the '04 primary (and should have no trouble carrying Vermont in the fall), so it's not clear which additional groups of voters he's expected to bring to the table.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:16 AM
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32. Effin delirious...
:woohoo:

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