If President Obama asks you to sacrifice something, be it

[babylonsister]

laying off on fueling up, or contributing food to homeless shelters, add your own, would you, and do you think he'd be out of line doing so?

[SwampG8r]

1. no

the last great GOP president said it best
"the presidency is a bully pulpit"
that is his job
to goad us into bettering ourselves
i expect him to shame the US churches about charity work that has become a government duty


ETA and i would definitely make the effort to comply with what he was saying if it was sensible and reasonable

[Maddy McCall]

2. Anything but sex, cokes, and crispy cremes.

[SwampG8r]

4. mmmmmmmmmmmm

krispy kremes

[babylonsister]

7. I've never had a crispy creme, don't like Coke, and sex?

Ha! Once in awhile, but it's good when it happens, after 26 years. I do know what I'm missing. ;)

[Wetzelbill]

9. yeah I second this and add strippers to the mix...

well that just lost me all my feminist street cred I've been building up for the last three years.

[babylonsister]

11. Yes it did...

:spank: :spray:

[Wetzelbill]

32. it appears as it fhe Wetzelbill campaign has hit McCain sexist gaffe territory

Did you hear the one about the woman and the ape?

[Maddy McCall]

12. And dildos and vibrators...

and I may think of a few more exceptions in a moment.

[SwampG8r]

21. if they tax

vibrators is it by size or horsepower?

[jillan]

23. As long as they're energy efficient, I'm sure he won't mind.

[blonndee]

30. LOL!

Cute. :)

[dogday]

66. Did you know the state of Alabama outlaws vibrators unless they

are marked for medical use only... All sex toys need to be marked for "Medical Use" and you have to fill out a form and check yes to one of five questions... Questions like: "Does it take you a long time to have a orgasm?"


We have come a long way baby...... :rofl:

[SwampG8r]

20. what about strippers

with cokes, loose sexual morals, and krispy kremes?now thats a platform a man can vote for!

[monmouth]

35. Recent article in Palm Beach Post re strippers. These gals are

also having tough times along with the business owners of these bars. Patrons are becoming few and far between, some owners are only staying open Fri., Sat.

[Hoof Hearted]

47. Gee. That breaks my heart.

:sarcasm:

[Baclava]

41. He's not going to mess with bacon, is he?

Bacon makes everything better....words to live by.

[quakerboy]

3. As with any such question, It depends

Be it contributing food to those who need it, then I think he would be perfectly in line, and I would do so if able.

Be it to give up my civil rights, no. That would be well out of line and inapropriate, no matter the claimed gain. There is no blind following in this household, unless feathers and handcuffs be involved.

[mtnester]

31. Don't forget your safe word

:)

[bluestateguy]

5. I would sacrifice for a President Obama

Because his priorities are right.

I will not sacrifice anything for a "President Bush" or McCain.

I have an 18 year old cousin who is waiting for the results of the election: If Obama wins, he will enlist in the Army. If McCain wins, he will not enlist.

[Labors of Hercules]

36. Interesting question about enlistment...

Makes me wonder if we'll see a much better response when Obama asks for enlistments as opposed to McCain??? Anyone with half a brain would know they would be much better treated than the military has been under *.

[rox63]

44. More would enlist if they could be sure they'd only be sent to war when it's absolutely necessary

eom

[parasim]

6. Yes, I would. and no, he would not in the least bit be out of line...

Especially now that I have just become a grandfather for the first time... i, for one, will be doing a lot of sacrificing to help make this a better world for my little grandson. For me, the stakes just went way up.

[babylonsister]

10. Congratulations, parasim! Got a pic? And what

is your grandson's name? Very fun, and a boy is great (for that name thing-dressing, not so much).

Enjoy! :toast:

[parasim]

17. Well, as a matter of fact, I do have a pic...

what self-respecting new grandpa wouldn't? hehe...



His name is Rowan Elwood

My son decided to go with my Dad's name (which is also my middle name) as our new grandson's middle name. How cool it is that?

Thanks! Yeah, I'm a very proud grandpa, no doubt about that. I just cringe at the thought of the state of the world that he is coming into.

[babylonsister]

33. I love the name Rowan, and he looks like...a baby!

:toast:
Now we must all try to make this world a better place, for your little guy and all of us.

[seriousstan]

8. How can I, immediately, reduce my gas usage? I have reduced it to essential.

"contributing food to homeless shelters" ..WHAT!!!!????? The government can force you to contribute to a food pantry? I guess that just means they are too scared to pass the tax.

[babylonsister]

14. Read the OP. The government isn't doing anything, which is the

point. Maybe it will happen once we have a different government.

[parasim]

22. I think the word used was "ask" not "force".

What is wrong with helping out those that less fortunate than ourselves? And extra can of pears or beans or whatever can go a long way for someone who has next to nothing.

[seriousstan]

26. Ask soon changes to force. I am old enough to see a pattern.

[parasim]

27. Right. whatever. Well, I'm fed up with the status quo...

of every man for himself... who cares about your fellow man, just go shopping! When's the last time the government forced you to give to the needy?

[babylonsister]

28. Thanks. Helping anyone wouldn't be a bad thing imo. nt

[bullwinkle428]

45. Did you have a problem when Jimmy Carter tried to urge

the principle of conservation to Americans in an effort to reduce dependency on foreign oil?

I think this is the kind of thing the OP is getting at...

[bread_and_roses]

64. Let's see policies that reduce the numbers that have to beg for food from charity

Like a guaranteed national income. The Employee Free Choice Act. Reducing our bloated military budget and real oversight on military spending. Fair taxes on the rich and corporations. Public financing of elections. A "manhattan project" on green energy and retrofitting. A Jobs/Public Works program for our inner cities. Support for small-scale sustainable farmers. On edit, forgot nationalizing utilities.

You know, there was a time when we didn't have to have a Food Bank or Soup Kitchen on every corner.

[billyoc]

13. No. It's time for the top 1% to start sacrificing for a change.

[babylonsister]

15. That's the plan. nt

[billyoc]

24. Well, honestly, if President Obama made a real appeal for help, I'd help.

[babylonsister]

25. You know what? I know you would. Thanks. nt

[davidinalameda]

16. he wouldn't be out of line in the least

ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country and all that

I know that I've been driving too much lately and I need to start biking it more. I volunteer once a month at my local food bank and I could probably do more in the way of community service.

Something like this is needed since the Bushies did their best to drive wedges between Americans. We need to come together for the good of this country before there is no country to unite.

[Speck Tater]

18. Sacifice? You mean he's NOT going to give every American a free SUV and years supply of gas? NT

[babylonsister]

19. Ha! Damn that man! Helping him doesn't sound so bad. nt

[Jed Dilligan]

29. I'd prefer if he asked me to do things, rather than not do things.

[babylonsister]

34. Yes! What can we do to help, President Obama? If you lead,

I will try to follow.

[LWolf]

37. If I sacrifice something, it's because:

1. I have something to sacrifice, and

2. I feel called to do so by my own inner "voice."

I don't choose actions because someone else calls for me to do so.

If someone who has earned my respect makes a suggestion, I will give the suggestion thoughtful consideration and make up my own mind.

I don't need a political "leader" to act as nanny, authoritarian "daddy," "spiritual leader," or my conscience.

Personally, I don't put a politician in office to lead, but to facilitate the will of the people. If the will of the majority is different than my own, I'm free to work to change that, or to decline.

The people are supposed to tell the politicians what to do; the politicians don't tell the people.

[WinkyDink]

38. Billionaires first.

[babylonsister]

42. Except they'd be the last to want to do anything for the greater good.

Why should they? They can afford not to.
My opinion of people with a lot of money isn't good. I question how they got it, for starters.

And I'm sure there are examples to the contrary. Jolie and Pitt have helped.

[krabigirl]

39. Nope. Sorry, he needs to tell the rich and the corporations to sacrifice things first.

We sacrifice enough. I sacrifice many things - I am not a wasteful person in general, so I don't consider it sacrifice to not waste fuel, etc, but I do it because I want to, not because someone in authority tells me to. I'd want to know what he is sacrificing, too.

[BklynChick]

40. that's what leadership is

[bullwinkle428]

43. I WANT a president with the guts to say something about personal sacrifice

that might ruffle the feathers of a few self-absorbed, overly-entitled a-holes - sadly, they happen to exist on both sides of the political spectrum!

[Marrah_G]

46. The premise I can understand

And I would probably do those things just because they are the right thing to do or the necessary thing to do more then because a President asked me to. I hope he does push people to give more back to their community, especially time.

I have to be completely honest and say the wording of your subject line really creeped me out.

[azmouse]

48. I'd love the challenge and would do my best to help.

[BigDDem]

49. I would and I think he should.

[livetohike]

50. Yes, I would do it. He has tapped into the American spirit

(the one we knew was always there, but has been squashed these last eight years). I think if he explains what he is asking for, people would do their best to comply.

[MadHound]

51. Cutting back on fuel, I have no problem with, something I'm already doing

Same with contributing to the homeless. However his insistence on sacrificing the Constitution on the altar of winning(FISA support, increased faith based funding) that I have a problem with. I know, I'm funny that way.

[babylonsister]

52. .

[phoenixriz]

53. Sacrifice

If any of you are old enough to have lived during WWII, we were called upon to make many sacrifices. Examples were Cars, Bicycles, Gasoline, Fuel Oil & Kerosene, Solid Fuels, Stoves. Rubber, Footwear, Shoes, Sugar, Coffee, Processed Foods. Meats, canned fish, Cheese,canned milk, fats and typewriter.

Heck I grew up as a Catholic and we couldn't have meat on Friday and only ate one whole meal a day during Lent. We all did it with a willing spirit and it didn't hurt us one bit.

Today we live in a society in which some if not many people would complain since with the Bush administration it has been divide and conquer mentality. We are outspoken, divisive at times and have developed some negative attitudes. Many for good reason.

Hopefully, our state of mind will change with new leadership and we will be able to co-operate with less self centeredness. So yes, if we are called upon to sacrifice for our fellow man in need, recycle and stop being an instant gratification society, I think we will be up to it for the good of the nation. Some, considering individual financial circumstance, will do well to just keep their head above water.

[babylonsister]

55. Thank you, phoenixriz, and welcome to DU. Your concerns

are similar to a lot of people's here. There are no answers, but sharing is good.

[vaberella]

54. I love his energy plans. So I'm all for cutting back on fuel and would

help anyway I could.

[Firespirit]

56. I don't think it's out of line at all, but I couldn't do it

I have "sacrificed" my job, my financial independence (moved back with parents after living alone for 4 years), part of my health, most of my savings. Haven't got much left except insurance, and that expires in mid-November by state law unless I get a new job before then. I have very little doubt that I will be a "receiver," assuming that Obama does something about young adult economic issues and unemployment.

[EFerrari]

57. He's running for president, right? Not parish priest?

:wtf:

[babylonsister]

58. Right. I was trying to draw the difference out between the dim one

who never asked for anything. I guess that was lost in translation. But if this guy asks us to, for instance, help feed the people who are hungry or homeless, will we?

I will. It'd be nice if someone gave them a clue.

[stimbox]

59. Obama says sacrifice.

[babylonsister]

60. Gotcha and now I've also got your number:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=371620

[stimbox]

61. Oooooh I'm scared.

:scared:

[Balbus]

62. I like the quote in your signature. - nt

[polichick]

63. imo true patriotism involves giving up something for the common good.

[Kablooie]

65. Fine until he suggests sacrificing virgins. I'd draw the line at that.