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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:40 AM
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Unless your income $250K+, Obama will not raise your income tax, payroll tax, capital gains tax, or
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 12:02 PM by flpoljunkie
any other tax.

It was great to see Morning Joe show a short video clip with Obama actually saying this when they discussed McCain's and Obama's economic speeches yesterday.

Haven't seen this clip repeated. It's way too clear, and way too helpful to Obama!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:42 AM
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1. Wow... I'm surprised they showed the clip even once.
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 11:42 AM by redqueen
That doesn't exactly help with the effort to catapult the propaganda.

I bet someone got in trouble for that. ;)
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:43 AM
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2. Me, too, redqueen.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:44 AM
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3. In 1992, GOP Argued That Bill Clinton's Similar Tax Increase Would Kill Economy
Remember this oldie but goodie in which George Bush, Sr., argued that Bill Clinton's proposed tax increase on higher income Americans would be job killer:

1992 Debate - Bush v. Clinton:

Next question goes to Governor Clinton. You have 2 minutes, Governor, and Susan will ask it.

ROOK: Governor Clinton, you said that you will raise taxes on the rich, people with incomes of $200,000 a year or higher. A lot of people are saying that you will have to go lower than that, much lower. Will you make a pledge tonight below which, an income level that you will not go below? I'm looking for numbers, sir, not just a concept.

CLINTON: My plan -- you can read my plan. My plan says that we want to raise marginal incomes on family incomes above $200,000 from 31 to 36 percent, that we want to ask foreign corporations simply to pay the same percentage of taxes on their income that American corporations play (sic) in America, that we want to use that money to provide over $100 billion in tax cuts for investment in new plant and equipment, for small business, for new technologies, and for middle class tax relief.

Now, I'll tell ya this. I will not raise taxes on the middle class to pay for these programs. If the money does not come in there to pay for these programs, we will cut other government spending or we will slow down the phase-in of the programs. I am not gonna raise taxes on the middle class to pay for these programs.

Now furthermore, I am not gonna tell you "read my lips" on anything because I cannot foresee what emergencies might develop in this country. And the president said never, never, never would he raise taxes in New Jersey, and within a day Marlin Fitzwater, his spokesman, said now, that's not a promise.

So I think even he has learned that you can't say "read my lips" because you can't know what emergencies might come up. But I can tell you this. I'm not gonna raise taxes on middle class Americans to pay for the programs I've recommended. Read my plan.

And you know how you can trust me about that? Because you know, in the first debate, Mr. Bush made some news. He'd just said Jim Baker was going to be secretary of state and in the first debate he said no, now he's gonna be responsible for domestic economic policy.

Well, I'll tell ya. I'll make some news in the 3rd debate. The person responsible for domestic economic policy in my administration will be Bill Clinton. I'm gonna make those decisions, and I won't raise taxes on the middle class to pay for my programs.

(APPLAUSE)

LEHRER: President Bush, you have one minute.

BUSH: That's what worries me --

(Laughter and applause)

-- that he's going to be responsible. He's going to do -- and he would do for the US what he's done to Arkansas. He would do for the US what he's done to Arkansas. We do not want to be the lowest of the low. We are not a nation in decline.

(APPLAUSE)

We are a rising nation.

Now, my problem is -- I heard what he said. He said I want to take it from the rich, raise $150 billion from the rich. To get it, to get $150 billion in new taxes, you got to go down to the guy that's making $36,600. And if you want to pay for the rest of his plan, all the other spending programs, you're going to sock it to the working man.

So when you hear "tax the rich," Mr. and Mrs. America, watch your wallet. Lock your wallet because he's coming right after you just like Jimmy Carter did and just like you're going to get -- you're going to end up with interest rates at 21%, and you're going to have inflation going through the roof.

Yes, we're having tough times, but we do not need to go back to the failed policies of the past, when you had a Democratic president and a spendthrift Democratic Congress.

(APPLAUSE)

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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:45 AM
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4. Technically, he WOULD raise your capital gain tax. If it goes from 15% to 28%, that affects
everyone who is invested in anything.

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:55 AM
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5. It depends. Short term capital gains are taxed as ordinary income.
Also, the capital gains tax might not go as high as 28%. It might only go into the low 20s or perhaps back to just 20%.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 12:01 PM
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6. Only if your AGI is over $250,000.
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 12:09 PM by flpoljunkie
THE FACTS: OBAMA’S TAX PLAN IS FOCUSED ON RELIEF FOR WORKING AMERICANS, SENIORS AND SUPPORTING INNOVATION

Barack Obama Will Only Raise Taxes for Those Earning Over $250,000 Per Year: In an interview with CNBC, Barack Obama stated, “And I think that we have an economy that's been out of balance for too long, so the general principle of raising taxes on higher income Americans like myself, and providing relief to those who haven't benefited as much from this new global economy, I think is a sound one. And keep in mind on all of these proposals, what I've said is, let's make sure that we define the well-off so that we're not hitting the middle class, you know. I generally define well-off as people who are making 250,000 dollars a year or more. And that means, for example, if we raise the capital gains tax, I will exempt people who are essentially small investors, and really capture those who have done very, very well over the last two decades.”

http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/06/10/mccain_tax.php
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 12:13 PM
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7. Thanks for the info...... I didn't see about the exemptions....
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 01:08 PM
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8. MSNBC's John Harwood just played the clip again.
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