Al Gore supported "The Clipper Chip."

[Ian David]

I was outraged at the time.

I even wrote angry letters about it.

I even considered voting for Colin Powell because of this.


Let's keep perspective.




Admit it...


How many of you had to look this one up?



Fool me can't be fooled again!

[blondeatlast]

1. Those were the days, weren't they? I, too, was furious!

:rofl:

[Ian David]

2. And what made me even MORE angry, was that nobody in the media shared my outrage...

... except Fox "News."

I certainly wasn't hearing about it on "The Clinton News Network."

Oh, how naive I was!

[blondeatlast]

5. Don't get me started on Tipper Gore, either...

:rofl:

[Ian David]

6. OMG, that was the OTHER reason! The PMRC!

Even *I* had ALMOST forgotten that!



Al and Tipper Gore were against Privacy and Free Speech!

[Barack_America]

11. Yep. And Tipper even has an Anthrax song dedicated to her!

Remember "Startin' up a posse"?

Ouch!

[DBoon]

14. and Frank Zappa was outraged as well

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/349977/frank_zappa_vs_tipper_gore.html

[blondeatlast]

7. I had lots to fear--I watched "Blackadder" religiously... nt

[SmileyRose]

3. WHAT is "Clipper Chip"

I'm guessing you DON'T mean those plastic duhickies on a spring that clip on the chip bag to keep the air out.

[Ian David]

4. Not telling. Making you look it up yourself is half the point of posting this.

Nobody ruin it for anyone else by posting it here.

[SmileyRose]

16. OK, so I read 3 different links from google and still don't get it.

Is the deal that Al Gore was in favor of something that would make it easier for the government to listen in on all my phone calls??

I wish they would. I think it's important that President Bush have personal knowledge of my father in laws bowel habits. LOL

Seriously though, if I understand that correctly, yes, I bet Al Gore was not a popular guy amongst the more libertarian progressives. :)

[blondeatlast]

17. Indeed and at the time, I was furious. It seems almost a world away now. nt

[Ian David]

21. It wasn't even that he wanted to listen-in on everybody.

He wanted to pass a law that companies selling encrypted telephones use a certain kind of encryption chip that the government could obtain a key to if they got a court order.

[politicasista]

8. OMG! Gore betrayed us!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm:



Thanks for the perspective. :hi: Let's get Obama in first, then hold him accountable. :)

[MannyGoldstein]

9. He Also Encouraged Clinton To Start The Ousourced Torture Program

Sigh.

[DBoon]

10. I was outraged too at the time

But given what Bush has done in the last 7 years, it all seems trivial

I only wish I had issues like this to be outraged about, instead of torture, detention without trial, etc

[Barack_America]

12. And so too will Obama's FISA stance after 4-8 years of McCain. nt

[IndyOp]

13. I had to look it up...

here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_chip

[Ian David]

15. I bet nobody has to look-up "FISA" or "Gitmo" or "Habeus Corpus" in 8 years. n/t

[Occam Bandage]

18. Habeas Corpus, no. That's a common legal term. Gitmo, for some. FISA, probably for most.

[Occam Bandage]

19. I was furious over his refusal to demand fuel efficiency standards while in the White House.

I still hold that he sold out to Detroit. But I never considered doing anything but voting for him regardless. I like to think I was right on both counts.

[cascadiance]

20. I actually DO remember that!

I remember a quote from him where he said something like "If you know what I know is going on, you'd understand why we need this bill." or something to that effect.

That was about the same time the Telecomm act was being passed. At that time, moreso than the media consolidation, which has had devastating effects on our media now, I was even more enraged at the "Communications Decency Act" that was packaged in the Telecomm Act, which left was out to punish "indecent" speech on the internet that was so nebulously defined at the time. I really felt that Clinton should have vetoed the Telecomm bill just for that by itself. Patrick Leahy, who stood up against that was my hero in those days, and I would have campaigned for him running for pesident if he were to run. Russ Feingold also started to show some good spine during this time period! That was about the time when I first got disgusted with Diane Feinstein as my senator. When she so strongly voiced support for the Communication Decency Act, and I first started to see the pattern that she was for strong (but strong and OPPRESSIVE federal government).

Fortunately we still had a reasonable SCOTUS which threw out that Communications Decency Act then. I'm sure it would have been a different story if it had gone before them today!

[Ian David]

22. I was advocating at the time that we should form a third party: The Cyber Party. n/t

[jgraz]

23. Exactly. He supported all kinds of crazy shit and HE got to be President

Oh wait...

[road2000]

24. Let's pile on Al.

Al Gore went on to win a Nobel for trying to save the planet you inhabit.

This thread deserves a prize for stupid.

[blondeatlast]

25. Put on your irony hat and read the thread again. nt

[Ian David]

29. I think he wears his irony hat on his ass. n/t

[gateley]

26. No -- it's making a very important point and statement.

Yes, even though the OP is IanDB1. :7

[blondeatlast]

27. ...

:spray:

Yup!

[Ian David]

28. There should be a Nobel Prize for Completely Missing The Point.

And a very obvious point at that.

You're really not an it-getter, are you?

Go back and fucking READ the thing.

Geesh!

[depakid]

30. And Al Gore's so called "centrist" approach turned out well, eh?

I have news- the same old crap has about the same chance of working this time around as it has in past elections.