The question isn't whether or not Obama will ask Hillary to be his running mate

[mtnsnake]

because he undoubtedly will want her.

The question is, will Hillary accept the position when she's asked? Does she want to play second fiddle? Is she willing to take the brunt of the blame for anything that goes wrong during the campaign? One would have to wonder.

Anyway, she'll be asked in private before anyone in the media gets wind of it. If she refuses the offer, we might never hear that Obama even asked her officially. Rest assured, though, that Hillary is his first choice. Barack Obama is not stupid.

[LordJFT]

1. very presumptuous

There are many qualified people out there and Obama is choosing between all of them. Hillary's on the list, but she is by no means a guarantee. And she's already said that she would accept vp if asked so that's not an issue.

[mtnsnake]

4. Link please

and I want to see it in her own words, not Chuck Schumer's or anyone elses.

[1Hippiechick]

15. You know you won't see it in print unless she announces it.....

How about quoted from someone who participated in the June 3rd conference call


http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/06/03/clinton-would-accept-vp-nod/

[tiptoe]

39. see

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6423409

[LordJFT]

40. good point about election fraud

If it weren't for election fraud in New Hampshire where Hillary mysteriously won all the machine counted areas and Obama all the hand counted ones, Obama would have won New Hampshire like all the polls said and the race would have been over a lot sooner, weakening Hillary's case for vp.

[sniffa]

2. Mmmm, thread

I agree, Obama's not stupid. That's why he won't ask her even in private.

[babylonsister]

3. Mmm, what you said. nt

[yardwork]

144. Me too post

[Zhade]

140. He's certainly NOT stupid enough to let mcLame prove his running mate a liar via the Tuzla video.

And mcLame would do that easily by playing it in his ads.

[Forkboy]

5. I think the chances of her being chosen are slim to none.

He already has her campaigning for him, which is what he really wants and needs.

[Richard Steele]

34. Yup, and Slim isn't returning her calls anymore. nm

[TexasObserver]

125. Correct! All the benefit of her helping, with none of the downside.

And the downside of having her on the ticket is simply huge.

[papapi]

6. That's a hoot. Been keepin' late hours mtnsnake?

[sellitman]

7. Still delusional I see.

You have a better chance than Hillary does being picked for his VP. She would energize the repiggies and bring unwanted baggage to the game. (Bill)

There is not a chance she gets on the ticket.

All she is doing now is trying to save her Senate career and retire the massive debt she rolled up by mismanaging her campaign in the Primary.

[beachmom]

8. By any chance, have you seen HBO's "John Adams"?

Being Vice President is no fun. The fact that Dick Cheney has been so powerful by no means is a prediction for the future. There is no reason for the Vice President to be that powerful. The job as Vice President is to serve as the tie breaker in the Senate, and to be next in line in case something happens to the president. Beyond that is up to the discretion of the POTUS.

I don't think it's that great a position. I think Hillary should stay in the Senate, and serve her constituents in NY. From what I hear she is good at it, and if you look at presidential candidates like Kennedy and Kerry, they have done an incredible amount of great things in the Senate.

[mtnsnake]

9. That's just one more reason why she might not accept when asked

And no, I haven't seen John Adams yet but am looking forward to watching it sometime when I get a chance.

[beachmom]

10. Yeah, I taped it, and was watching a little the other night. It's the

part where he is VP under Washington. He is literally laughed away in the Senate, and then while sitting at dinner with Washington & the cabinet, he says something, then suddenly, Pres. Washington says he wants to speak to his cabinet only and John Adams is politely told to leave. That is the normal role of V.P.

I think Obama should pick a V.P. for pure political reasons (for the campaign only, and less governing), frankly, and then pick his true "Team of Rivals" for the cabinet.

[1Hippiechick]

11. "Rest assured, though, that Hillary is his first choice. Barack Obama is not stupid" WTF?

And you have this on good authority....

edited to add afterthought:

Do you not remember way back when...when the Repukes were WANTING Hillary to be the DP nominee? If anything, I believe her being on the ticket would most assuredly guarantee a Repuke win!

[JoFerret]

16. I never bought that back then

and still don't. However, most republicans are quite irrational so who knows - it could be true from that false perspective.

[Radical Activist]

20. Exactly.

She's one of the most disliked public figures in the country.

[polmaven]

22. One of the most DISLIKED public

figures in the country? Is THAT why she gor 18,000,000 votes! Oh! Thanks for 'splainin that to me!

[1Hippiechick]

25. Disliked by the Repukes et al

[polmaven]

26. So, disliked by

the same people who won't vote for Senator Obama anyway! I see.

[Peacetrain]

27. which begs the question.. who really voted for Hillary

was it operation chaos after all.. sorry they would not have voted for her if she had gotten the nod.. her negatives are right through the roof.

[polmaven]

31. Sure,

I am part of Operation Chaos!

You think that because someone voted for Hillary it means he of she isn't a Democrat?

His negatives among Republicans are as high as hers. We are talking REPUBLICANS here. She got legitimate Democratic votes, and she would likely have won if she had been the nominee, just like he will likely win now.

GROW UP and let go of your hate!

[Peacetrain]

37. You are part of operation chaos???

how interesting.. hmmmm I always thought it was only the republicans who were that..and since I was talking about republicans...

[polmaven]

42. It was you who speculated

that Hillary's votes were all from Operation Chaos. So, yeah...I guess that, since I voted for her, I, along with 17,999,999 other Americans am evidently part of that myth! I mean, read the subject line of your post!

[Peacetrain]

44. you were the one who said you were part of operation chaos

[polmaven]

48. Oh, gool Lord!

which begs the question.. who really voted for Hillary
was it operation chaos after all..

I understand that some have a reading comprehension problem, but when you don't understand what you write...what is that called?

[1Hippiechick]

50. Go back on post 31 and add the sarcasm smiley after "I am part of Operation Chaos." Problem solved.

[Peacetrain]

51. How is this

" which begs the question.. who really voted for Hillary
was it operation chaos after all.. :crazy:

[Peacetrain]

49. Maybe you were jesting heh?

About being part of Operation Chaos?? I was just taking you at what you posted .not sure what your tail feathers are ruffled about.. but I was just asking.. since the right wing nut jobs of talk radio said it was their way of sabotage the Democratic primary.. I don't know who voted for, and her negatives are high.. that is just the truth..

[Name removed]

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[polmaven]

78. Stuff it!

Where the sun don't shine!

[sniffa]

80. Thanks

:hug:

[paulk]

63. everything I've read had more crossover Republicans

voting for Obama than for Hillary. In fact, it was a big bragging point for Obama supporters up until the so called "operation chaos".

Seems like the argument you make is a two edged sword.

[Zhade]

142. Sure, you can claim that when you don't actually, you know, prove it or anything.

"I read" isn't evidence.

[paulk]

152. here's what I read

for people who never get out of their mom's basement...

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/08/24/obama_gop/

[TexasObserver]

129. 65% were Democrats, 25% were nominal Democrats, 10% were GOP

While the GOP still had a viable race for president, the GOP votes for Hillary were much less than 10%%. Closer to 5%.

As a base line, however, I think it's best to consider 10% of her voters as being Operation Chaos, either literally or in spirit.

[Kahuna]

36. "18 million SQUAWK!!" I wish those 18 million would pony up $1 each

and pay off her debt.

[polmaven]

43. The subject of this thread

is not Senator Clinton's campaign debt, and my post did not regard that either.

[Kahuna]

61. The post I responded to mentioned her 18 million voters (SQUAWK!).

That is what I responded to. Don't hate.

[polmaven]

67. Umm....

I wish those 18 million would pony up $1 each and pay off her debt.

Again...neither the suject of the thread not the suject of the post to which you responded had anything to do with her campaign debt. Neither did I express any hate.

[1Hippiechick]

45. Actually it is only $10M, and it would be 56 cents each.....

[TexasObserver]

115. Apparently that alleged 3 million voters won't send her $10 each.

It's hard to believe there are significant numbers of former Hillary supporters who really care that much about her current status, or they'd be working to retire the campaign debt. I wonder if all those whining about putting Hillary on the ticket have sent her money sent she conceded.

She's reduced to begging Obama to help her retire the debt, because all those supporters she had won't do it. I suppose the level of support isn't quite what the McCain camp had hoped.

[Radical Activist]

41. Hey, its what the polls show.

And most Democrats I know who were ambivalent about her at the start of the primary now absolutely hate her.

[polmaven]

53. You mean the same polls

that were certain she would lose New Hampshire? Those polls? 18 million votes does not translate to her being one of the "most disliked public figures" in the country!

[Radical Activist]

55. Yeah, there were what, two of those polls?

New Hampshire was supposed to be a bigger win for her before Barack won Iowa. And yes, Hillary does have more appeal in a northeastern state like NH than she does in other parts of the country.

18 millions isn't much in a country of over 300 million people. But you keep holding onto that moral victory that name recognition and establishment money got her 18 million votes. Weaving that coalition of Republican saboteurs, racists, and people who don't read the news enough to vote based on anything other than name recognition is really, really impressive.

[polmaven]

64. And you just keep holding on

to your disdain and your belief that she is so very unpopular, and she only got 18 million votes because people were just too uninterested, stupid, and...my favorite...racist to vote otherwise.

That kind of belief...particularly the "if you are too stupid to know why Barack Obama is better than John McCain, then we don't need your vote anyway, you f'ing racist" is not going to bring undecided independents or fed up middle of the road republicans into our camp in November.

Yes, I said "our". You see, I am now an Obama supporter. I will always defend a Democrat against unfounded accusations, however, and I am extremely proud of Senator Clinton's showing in this campaign, but I will work now for the Democratic nominee of our party.

I am very saddened by the fact that so many on this discussion board are so unable to put their hatred away.

[Radical Activist]

79. It's due to her actions.

A year ago I was convinced that Hillary could never win a national election or the primary. I didn't dislike her personally. But after seeing the shameful way she acted during the primary I have very little respect for her.
But its not just me. There are plenty of polls showing more dislike than like her.

[Zhade]

143. NICE.

Tasty pwnage, man.

[Zhade]

141. And a nice chunk of those were Republicans pushed by Limbaugh to vote for her.

Your point?

[mtnsnake]

62. Disliked public figure my but. The Goddess of Peace is revered world wide

She is disliked by rightwing nutjobs, yes, and for good reason. She's their worst fucking nightmare.

[sniffa]

82. I think you misspelled reviled

[yardwork]

149. The Goddess of Peace?

In what way is Hillary Clinton a Goddess of Peace? This is a serious question.

[TexasObserver]

126. "I believe her being on the ticket would most assuredly guarantee a Repuke win!"

That's your quote.

I agree that Hillary is probably one of the worst choices for VP by Obama, but I think he could still win even with her dragging the ticket down. Her presence would likely hurt our party in the congressional races. I think we can still win the presidency, even if she's on the ticket, but she will kill our down ballot candidates.

[JeanGrey]

12. He will "undoubtedly" want her. Says who?

[TexasObserver]

127. Says who? Pat Buchanan, Joe Scarborough, and the RNC!!

Don't you love hearing those RW Pukes go on and on about how Obama has to put Hillary on the ticket?

[JoFerret]

13. Now look what you've done...

...unleashed yet another round of Hillary-abuse.

While it might be hard to turn down I do agree with you that this is not the job for Hillary and that if she is wise she will say no for all the temptation to accept. More years of standing on the sidelines nodding and clapping while the president talks is hardly a job worth having. She's done enough of that already. Maybe the little jaunt to Unity (as described by the NYTimes at least) would leave enough bad taste for a quite some time.

[asjr]

14. The only reason I would want Hillary Clinton

to accept the office of VP is because I feel with her on the ticket we are more assured of winning the presidency. I would rather she stay in the Senate because she has done a very good job there, but Hey, it's not my call, just my two cents. Of course if she is asked and does accept it will be a field day for the media. And I can just see Chris Matthews showering his guests with his spittle right now.

[Genevieve]

17. LOL.

eom.

[TheKentuckian]

18. She wants the VP and she'll accept it if offered

but I think it's highly unlikely that she'll be the pick and cannot see the value of such a move.

Hillary will only be asked to be VP if it is clear that that such a call is what wins the White House, I continue to see that selecting Senator Clinton will do more harm than good toward that claim.

[mtnsnake]

91. Not that I agree she wants it, but at least you were brave enough to address the subject of the OP

Kudos for that, TK.

[yardwork]

148. Welcome to DU. Very thoughtful post. I agree on all points.

[Radical Activist]

19. Obama isn't stupid and he wants to win.

So he won't be asking Hillary to join the ticket.

[iconicgnom]

21. One thing HRC proved in this primary, is that she really is the most polarizing pol in the USA.

No contest.

[mtnsnake]

65. When your the most effective Democrat in the world, your not gonna be popular with everyone

Not only is Hillary drop dead gorgeous, but she's just as brilliant and energetic as she is beautiful. No wonder our entire country, with the exception of a bunch of rightwing nutjobs and a few whiny assed complainers, loves and respects her like no other politician before her. Big effin deal if a few people think she's polarizing. Tells ya how little they know.

[iconicgnom]

112. popularity/unpopularity has little to do with polarizing/not-polarizing

You clearly have a crush. That's fine, if you take care not to project that emotion on the entire country!

Polarization is about the causing and inflaming of a *split*. Maybe the case can best be shown by contrast. Edwards is certainly very popular amongst Dems. Perhaps not so popular as Hillary, but popular enough to make a lasting mark on the primary. But he's not at all *polarizing*. His supporters weren't polarized into an us vs them (them being everyone else in the party) mindset, and so they had and have the resilience to take their lumps and move on, knowing that just as they aren't going away, neither is Edwards, that he and they will continue to promote the politics he campaigned on, just not from the office he was campaigning for. By comparison, and of course this is just my impression, when I would browse through the HRC DU board I was floored by the absolute 100% polarized tone of the posts.

No doubt HRC is "effective". So are other politicians. But it's certainly not true that she's the most effective Dem, nor that she's the most loved and respected of all politicians of all time, as your somewhat bizarre statement asserts. In fact, my guess is that she'd be much more effective if she weren't so polarizing.

[Zhade]

146. Yeah, she's so loved and respected she's our nominee!

Oh, wait.

She LOST.

[TexasObserver]

117. That's the problem. Polls suggest she won't help him with indies at all.

If he chooses her, I'll happily support it, but the only thing the OP got was this: Obama's not stupid. That's why he's the nominee and she's $30 mil in debt and no supporters to help her retire it.

[Zhade]

145. Being a proven liar does that to a candidate.

NT!

[City Lights]

23. Whatever gets you through the night, dude.

:smoke:

[Disturbed]

24. The RWing wanted her as the Dem Candidate.

They would be happy if she became the VP choice.

[Peacetrain]

29. They would love it if she were the canidate..but

if not the canidate..then the second place would be okay too..they have stuff stacked and ready to go against her by way of Bill.. they(the rovebots) were so disillusioned when Barack actually got the nod, they let some of it slip..the whole meme on Bill and his dalliances with people on the campaign trail..and it could be the biggest bunch of bunk ever.. but because of the history.. there are a lot of idiots who would suck that stuff up...and that is just the reality of it

[City Lights]

33. Yup.

She'll breathe life into the demoralized GOP base.

[mtnsnake]

66. Yeah right, keep telling yourself that. Hillary is the Right Wing's worst nightmare

They breathed a collective sigh of relief when she didn't get the nomination that triggered some severe thunderstorms.

[TexasObserver]

118. Yes, it's the RWing that primarily pushes the idea of Hillary on the ticket.

They know it helps them in many ways, and not in only the presidential race.

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[MercutioATC]

30. Dude, get help.....seriously.

First it was "Hilary will be the nominee".

When that didn't happen, it's "Hillary will be/should be VP".

The next step (when she's not asked)...will it be "Obama can't win without Hillary on the ticket"?



When he does win without her on the ticket, will you finally let it go?

[1Hippiechick]

46. Add to your list: she will be asked in private, she will refuse, & we will never know that she was

asked.

No offense mtnsnake - but this is kinda out there?

[greguganus]

59. Or she will lie and say she was asked, just like Snipergate. n/t

[rodeodance]

75. still reliving the hate of the primaries I see.

[shadowknows69]

101. Oh she didn't lie?

[Zhade]

151. Some can't believe their own eyes, even when the videos PROVE the lies.

Tuzla, anyone?

[Zhade]

147. Telling the proven truth about her lies isn't hate, no matter how much you desperately wish it were.

NT!

[mtnsnake]

57. I tried. My dam helpers didn't show up!

Had to do it on my own again. Frigging cant count on anyone nowadays. lol

[Kahuna]

32. I nominate this as the funniest post of the day. Dude should

leave his day job. :rofl:

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[anonymous171]

35. I don't really care who his VP is, as long as it isn't Lieberman or something.

[SoCalDem]

38. oh my

:rofl:

Obama probably wants her to be the first lady on the last train out of town :)

[1Hippiechick]

47. "Obama probably wants her to be the first lady on the last train out of town " LOL!

:rofl:

:yourock:

:headbang:

[Lord Helmet]

52. Obama will have to lose his mind completely first before putting Clinton on the ticket.

[greguganus]

58. Both he and Michelle. n/t

[TexasObserver]

54. No, the only question is whether Obama will ask her.

You're being silly again. The primary is over. Please stop. You're only making yourself look bad.

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[TexasObserver]

86. The primary is over. Your candidate lost. Get over it.

Time to move on. Stop using McCain's talking points.

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[Forkboy]

90. "legitimate threads like mine"

[TexasObserver]

121. Obama will decide if he wants Hillary as VP. But he probably won't ask her.

As you said in your OP, Obama isn't stupid. Since he isn't stupid, he won't likely pick her.

[yourguide]

60. Hahahahaha

If Hillary was the first choice, dont you think he'd be trying more forcefully to assist her with her debt.

Good luck with that.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[BeyondGeography]

68. Obama's VP will come from a state we lost in 2004 and have a chance of winning this year

and it won't be Arkansas.

This year is all about changing the electoral map. Obama's already leading in the swing states that Hillary said he couldn't win. She adds nothing to Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, the Midwest and the Mountain states; this is where the eventual VP choice will help.

Add all the problems Bill brings to this discussion, and Hillary has about as much of a chance of being on the ticket as the Nationals do of winning the World Series this year.

[mtnsnake]

69. Maybe you can petition to get John Edwards as VP, seeing how well he did last time (snicker)

[1Hippiechick]

72. Have you channeled Jeanne Dixon? LOL

[TexasObserver]

122. Edwards, Richardson and Webb are probably the frontrunners for VP.

I agree that he won't pick a junior senator from NY who probably would not help him win any state he's already going to win.

[davidpdx]

70. I have no doubt she's on the short list

But I wish people would just leave well enough alone. The constant of pushing of the idea of Hillary Clinton as the VP is getting old. Please give it a rest.

[mtnsnake]

71. What, we're not allowed to discuss whether Hillary will accept the spot or not?

I'm not pushing her as VP, I'm wondering if she'd accept the position when she's asked. I thought this was a discusssion board.

[davidpdx]

92. Yes, you are as are other people who supported Hillary Clinton

And again it's getting old. The last time I looked there were at least 5 threads on the first page alone pushing the Hillary for VP meme. My question is, how bad is the backlash against Obama going to be when he doesn't pick her?

[mtnsnake]

96. I think the question you just posed is also worthy of its own thread

My question is, how bad is the backlash against Obama going to be when he doesn't pick her?

Good question. This is a huge concern for Obama, and this is one of the reasons why I believe he'll be asking Hillary to be his VP. That and the fact that she's the most competent and logical choice.

Another concern: If Obama feels her out behind the scenes and finds out she won't accept the spot, how will it all be perceived if he is forced to ask someone else? Will the general public be satisfied that he wanted her as his choice but she didn't want the job, or will they think she got snubbed? It's all about perception, and this thing has to be handled with care or else.

[davidpdx]

100. I think either way Hillary supporters are going to be let down

and pissed off when he doesn't choose her. That's why I used the word backlash. Honestly I don't think she's going to have to turn him down (which might be good not to place her in that situation), but my guess is some of the people who support Hillary and have switch to Obama are going to end up not supporting him. The ones who aren't supporting him are going to be even more pissed when he picks someone else. Thus you have groups like Clinton Supporters for McCain.

[mtnsnake]

105. It's definitely a complicated and touchy situation for both people (Obama and Hillary)

This might be one of the toughest decisions each of them will have to ever make...Obama for asking her or not, and Hillary for accepting or not.

[Zhade]

150. Might as well discuss if you can make ice on the sun, for all the merit the conversation has.

NT!

[1Hippiechick]

73. Obama does not discriminate based on height.....

[TexasObserver]

123. for many reasons, that's obviously true

Reason 1: Bill is a disaster, and his contined pouting is very, very annoying

Reason 2: Things Hillary said in the campaign

Reason 3: Won't help him win any state he isn't already going to win

[polichick]

74. LOL - you are too much!!!

[40ozDonkey]

77. Hillary will be asked only on the condition she says "No."

That way she and her supporters can salvage their ego.
After that they'll pick a VP who can actually help them win.

[TexasObserver]

128. Obama would never trust her to abide by the deal and say "NO."

LBJ pulled that on the Kennedys. Obama won't be suckered into that.

[Straight Shooter]

133. It's a damn good thing "LBJ pulled that on the Kennedys"

Else it might have been many years before the Civil Rights Act was signed by a president.

LBJ was a frickin' polarizing politician, too. Kee-rist, how people hated him!

[Catherina]

81. Hillary will probably be asked and she'll say yes

The only point of contention during these bitter Primaries was who was going to be on the top of the ticket. Their positions are identical and it's a fitting match. It's time to face the bitter truth that there wasn't much of a difference between the two after all.

The only reason they won't ask Hillary is if someone else can guarantee better numbers and Bill refuses to sign a contract saying he won't meddle and will keep out of the limelight.

Obama/Clinton 2008, historic ticket, yada yada, that's where they've been going with this thing all along.

Imo, it's not the best move for capturing independents but the charade about them being any different is over.

[mtnsnake]

93. Thank you for addressing the subject while most of the others were kind of lost

I think the Obama camp will send someone to "feel out" the Clinton camp to see if she'll accept or not BEFORE Obama officially asks her. However, I think Hillary will not let on to them her intentions and will force Obama into asking her directly himself.

I think Barack wants her for sure, but he doesn't want to ask her unless he's sure she'll accept. I don't know if Hillary will accept. I think it's less than 50-50 that she take the job. JMO

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[mtnsnake]

87. Alerting on what? For starting a discussion on whether or not Hillary will accept when asked?

"Dear mods, my name is shadowknows69, and I want to alert on this thread because I would rather not discuss whether or not Hillary would accept the position of VP when she's asked. Please lock this right away." (snicker)

[shadowknows69]

94. Whatever, it's a flamebait thread and you know it

Stop acting like a child.

[mtnsnake]

97. Flaimbait? How on earth is it flamebait? Other people are discussing it like adults, just not you

Stop crying and discuss the subject of my post or get your whiney little but outta here. Hope that helps...

[shadowknows69]

103. You're just making an embarassing ass of yourself

I can't fathom that you can't see that or don't care.

[mtnsnake]

104. I'm making an embarrassing ass of myself? For what? For asking a legitimate question? LOLOL

A question that you obviously can't answer because you don't have a clue as to what's going on with our process? Now tell me who's really making an ass of themself.

Nice try, though, in trying to turn this legitimate thread into a flame so it gets locked. You should be ashamed of yourself for more than one reason, dude.

[shadowknows69]

107. If you can't see what a moran you look like then there's no hope for you.

But then that's the biggest problem with morans. They're too dumb to realize how annoying they are to the rest of the world, or worse it's what delights them the most.

[mtnsnake]

111. blah blah blah. Don't you have anything better to do than try to turn threads into flames?

Come back sometime after you learn to be more of a challenge, or at least make an attempt to address the subject of the OP instead of crying like the biggest baby on the planet. Good gawd, what you'll do to try and turn something into a flame fest. Now run along...

[lumpy]

108. Well then why do you keep flaming, child?

x

[mtnsnake]

110. He/she is trying to get my thread locked by acting really idiotic, as one can notice up above. lol

It's called plan B. When they're alerts don't work, they try to turn it into a flame.

[fishwax]

84. I doubt she'll be asked

And I certainly would never buy someone else getting the job as conclusive evidence that she's turned him down.

[mtnsnake]

89. Do you think she'll accept the spot?

What's your opinion on that?

[fishwax]

113. I think she would if asked

just speculation ...

[lojasmo]

85. Stupid post, even for you. N/T

[lumpy]

109. And your post is so edifying. Not.

x

[Colobo]

95. mtnsnake, she's on the list, but she's not a shoe-in.

[mtnsnake]

98. Do you think she'll accept the spot, Katz, when and if she's asked?

I think she's his number one choice, but regardless of that, my question is simply whether or not she'll accept the spot of VP.

[faithfulcitizen]

99. hmmm, reverse psychology? LOL.

[Pavlovs DiOgie]

102. LOL that's rich!

Thanks for the laugh!

[mtnsnake]

106. Enjoy!

:)

[TexasObserver]

114. FLAMEBAIT!! And damn good flamebait, too!!

Can't imagine why it's still unlocked, but it is flamebait, and successful flamebait, too.

We have a nominee. He will choose the VP. It probably won't be Hillary, but if it is, she'll gladly take it.

[Major Hogwash]

119. Bozo was a clown.

And so is the poster who started this crap of saying "Hillary will be the vp, Hillary will be the vp."

It's gotten old.
Already.

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[rodeodance]

132. True, as generally the OP itself is not flamebait but posters who make it into Flamebait.

[TexasObserver]

135. Obama will let you know who he wants, and when it's not Hillary, you can show your enthusiasm.

That'll be fun!!

[TexasObserver]

134. It's flamebait.

Stop kidding yourself. It's flamebait.

[libforlife]

116. obama will pick biden nt

[TexasObserver]

124. Biden is one of a half dozen that are surely ahead of Hillary on Obama's list.

[JackORoses]

130. you, like your master, are still unable to display the least bit of humility

Barack Obama is not stupid. Hillary represents the past, not the future.

Once again, your hubris will not be rewarded.

[TexasObserver]

136. 141 responses. Only 2 posters agree with you.

Can we now agree that the CONSENSUS is that Obama will ask Hillary to be VP only if he feels like it, and she'll jump at the chance to be his VP?

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[adoraz]

138. disagree 100%.

[mtnsnake]

139. Well said