Obama should give Bill Clinton more credit.

[wurzel]

I am no great fan of Clinton's. But Clinton was a Democrat President. And the fact is he did leave this country with a balanced budget and surpluses as far as the eye could see. All totally squandered or stolen by Bush/Cheney. I think Obama would do well to remind people of this quite often.

[hardbop]

1. He did in the Flint, MI speech today (6/16) ....

[wurzel]

12. he barely mentioned it.

[hokies4ever]

20. It's not his job to shill for Bill Clinton

the last thing he wants is the press interviewing him about comments, good or bad, that he makes about Bill.

[ericgtr]

2. He may still, there's plenty of time but Bill said some pretty shitty things about Obama

It went beyond "just politics" much of what he said went below the belt, I don't know that I would be too thrilled with him either if I were Obama. Still, I think we'll see them together at some point for the good of the party.

[Adelante]

3. Actually, he has done many times nt

[RazBerryBeret]

4. that line is part of his normal stump speech...

says Bill Clinton left a record surplus and Bush has given us a record deficit.

[Life Long Dem]

5. Why doesn't Bill Clinton can't endorse Obama?

Or is he too busy in Colombia selling out this country's workforce for cheap labor.

[MonkeyFunk]

7. let go of the hate

it doesn't help your guy.

[tridim]

8. Even so, he should still have endorsed the Democratic nominee by now.

Any idea what his plans are?

[Life Long Dem]

10. What hate? And what's this "your guy" ?

And if he isn't your guy, then what the hell are you doing here telling me to watch my hate?

If anyone should be watching something, it is people here still trying to sell Clinton.

[MonkeyFunk]

22. I'm not selling anything

but I think using DU to trash a great Democratic president is bullshit, and I'll continue to point it out.

[Life Long Dem]

23. How is it trash to point out the truth.

Clinton was in Colombia making trade deals.

[roguevalley]

39. Bill needs to endorse Obama.

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[MonkeyFunk]

40. You think I'll be banned for sporting an avatar

provided by the administrators of this place?

:rofl:

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[MonkeyFunk]

43. I've never insinutated any such thing

why do you guys lie so much?

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[MonkeyFunk]

46. Again, you guys think you run this place

and you keep threatening me with a tombstone, but you can't ever provide any evidence where I"ve ever trashed Obama.

Pony up. Show where I've ever attacked Obama. bonus points if you can show me doing it after the primaries ended. Otherwise, I'll just have to assume you're another liar.

[Beacool]

18. He's not obligated to do a damn thing!!!!

He IS a two term president. I'm sure he'll go through the motions sooner or later. What's the rush? Today he got endorsed by Gore. Isn't that enough for one week?

[Leftist Agitator]

33. " Isn't that enough for one week?"

No.

Now, Be Cool.

[JVS]

35. And nobody is obligated to give him any respect.

Freedom, ain't it grand.

[silverojo]

6. Clinton balanced the budget by destroying FDR's safety net

He also encouraged indiscriminate oil usage by raising the speed limit to levels that modern cars aren't manufactured to withstand in an impact.

He did nothing to reinstate the incentives to use forms of alternative energy, despite the fact that his own VP was encouraging people to explore different forms of energy.

He was a staunch advocate of NAFTA.

These are not things that Obama wants to be associated with.

[wvbygod]

11. Oil wasted from crashing cars

The amount of oil wasted by modern cars because they can't withstand in an impact is negotiable.

I would not advise Obama to pander to the 55mph club any time soon.

[wurzel]

14. I said I wasn't a fan for the very things you mention.

[sandnsea]

9. Boomers' FICA Earnings balanced the budget n/t

[TTUBatfan2008]

13. Perhaps Bill should give Barack some credit...

seems all he's done is trash him during this election.

[WeDidIt]

15. DemocratIC President. Key letters, "IC"

And ye shall know them by their slimes.

[highplainsdem]

21. Please check the OP's profile and check his old posts before sliming him for a typo. Thank you.

[Thrill]

16. Wow he kisses Hillary's ass every time he speaks. Now he needs to get on his knees for Bill too.

Lets be fair here

[Beacool]

17. It's self interest.

He needs her and her supporters.

[lojasmo]

19. Real democrats will support the nominee.

Whether or not he kisses Clinton ass.

[highplainsdem]

24. Real Dems would not trash the most successful Dem of the last 50 years, and his wife who got

approximately as many votes in this primary race as Obama.

[emilyg]

25. ...

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[rodeodance]

28. ................

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :hi: :hi:

[lojasmo]

37. Meh.

Clinton did plenty of crappy things to the US. He's open to criticism.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

38. No kidding.

First, he has to answer for people he has only tangential relationships to, and now he has to kiss Bill's ass because he's not getting a third term in the White House.

I think Bill was a good president, but this is a bit much.

[SwampG8r]

48. bill thinks we need to all

be on our knees for him
one way or the other

[davidpdx]

26. I think some would like to believe that the blame should

only go on Obama for what happened in the primary. Clearly there is a strained relationship between him and the Clintons. Despite what some would have you believe both sides said some pretty bad things about the other.

[monomach]

27. NAFTA, DOMA, DADT, shady pardons, intern sex, kitchen sink in 08 primaries, shady library donations

The list by no means stops there.

My memory of Bill Clinton's presidency is that of a Centrist lech, to tell you the truth.

I don't think he was that great of a President, and I feel that he was/is a hindrance to the Progressive movement.

He only seems like a good President because the last effective Progressive President was a million years ago (Lyndon Johnson). Bill (and his wife) shifted the party too far away from the left. They're too conservative.

Forgive me for not kissing Bill's rear end and pretending it smells of roses.

Obama's been nothing but nice to the guy, in any case.

[populistdriven]

29. Clinton deregulated energy markets & Glass-Steagall, DMCA, CALEA, China MFN - thanks for 4$ gas Bill

Clinton is the elephant in the room around DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3467180

[Leftist Agitator]

30. "...a Democrat President..."

YOU LOSE!!! GOOD DAY SIR!!!

[JVS]

32. "All totally squandered or stolen by Bush/Cheney."

Which is why they don't matter. Clinton didn't defend his legacy and everything he did was done in vain.

[Indi Guy]

34. Bullshit...

Bubba lost his cred when he compared Obama's win in South Carolina to Jessie's losses.

Bill Clinton has done a great deal to undermine his own formidable legacy.

[MonkeyFunk]

44. Nonsense

and calling him "Bubba" is freeperish.

[WinkyDink]

36. Thank you. But re-think your adjective form: "But Clinton was a Democrat President."

DEMOCRATIC.

[Occam Bandage]

42. ...Democrat President?

"Sibboleth."

[Sans Givingadamn]

47. Giving Bill credit will mess up Obama's message

He ran pretending the Clintons were not good for America during the 90's, even though polls show Americans think Clinton was very good or excellent.

[malik flavors]

49. He's been giving him credit now that primaries are over. It's just politics, he appreciates Bill.