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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:26 PM
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Poll question: Should Zell Miller be ejected from the party before the RNC convention
If he is, his nomination of Bush will come across as sour grapes and defeat their goal of embarrassing the Democratic Party. Also, we get to replace him on Senate committees with real Democrats.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:28 PM
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1. False premise. n/t
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:28 PM
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2. Someone earlier posted the DNC bylaws
and it CAN be done....Do it!
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:28 PM
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3. Boot his ass out
He's no use to anyone in our party.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:28 PM
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4. Eject, excommunicate, ostracize...
He's a backstabber and traitor. Good riddance Zell, you pile of SH**
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:29 PM
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5. Under the DNC rules, he must be ejected on August 28th.
If he has not officially endorsed Kerry by that date, he can no longer be a member of the DNC and all Democratic Senators are members of the DNC.

Midnight, August 28th, Zell Miller is no longer a Democrat.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:33 PM
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7. Ah......Let Him

Let him make a JackA$$ out of himself.....then when Bush is out of office and charges of War Crimes are leveled against Bush for Iraq and 9/11 then lets see that Miller is held as a accessory to stupidity
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:44 PM
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9. Right
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 02:45 PM by NervousRex
And if the DNC does not enforce this, the talking heads will laugh and say..."Hehehe look the Dems are falling apart...and they can't even follow their own rules...hehe"
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:21 PM
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12. That's not what the rules say.
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 03:24 PM by Frodo
They say it is obvious grounds for ejection.

They also give a partial PROCESS for that ejection... which probably can't take place before his speech.

He'll have to do it himself.


"After notice and opportunity for public hearing and upon grounds found by the National Committee to constitute good and sufficient cause, the National Committee may remove a member by two-thirds vote of the National Committee."


When will the National Committee be meeting in the three days before the RNC nomination? When will there be "notice" and "opportunity for public hearing"??

I don't think this can happen in time.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:34 PM
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13. They could remove him from committees and Terry and the officers
could issue a call for him to leave the party. The DNC won't be meeting before the RNC convention.
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:37 PM
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17. That could be a mistake.
Remember that committee balance is determined by partisan balance in the Senate. Make him a Republican and he MIGHT lose his seats (what does he care? He hardly ever shows up since he's a lame duck), but you will also cost one Democrat on EVERY OTHER committee to lose HIS/HER seat. Some of them need those committee seats as part of their election strategy.

No. Much as it pains me since I think he does everything else wrong, Terry McAuliffe is handling THIS one right. Just keep reminding people he isn't REALLY a Democrat and let him fade to nothingness in a few months. Make too big a deal of it and you just draw more attention to a bad situation.
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dmkinsey Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:30 PM
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6. We can pass the hat
to raise his membership dues for the Republican Party
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:37 PM
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8. You're choices are a bit loaded and "ejected" not well defined, but . . .
. . . if you mean stripped of any official positions he holds in the leadership of the Democratic National Committee and any seniority he has in the Democratic Caucus in the Senate, then I vote Yes.

His behavior would be bad enough if Bush were just an another conservative President, but he is not; Bush is a threat to American democratic institutions and to world peace. It would also be something else if the Democrats had nominated somebody on the fringe of the mainstream who was doomed to lose, such as McGovern; but that is not the case. Senator Kerry is far from being a liberal or progressive ideologue and his chances of winning in November are excellent.

If Senator Miller weren't retiring from politics, one would have to conclude he's made a bad career move. That's the only thing that might save him from some well-dervered punishment: it might not be worth the time and effort.

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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:46 PM
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10. Years ago, the California Democratic Party officially asked Sam Yorty
to leave the Party. Under the DNC rules, Miller can be kicked out on Aug 28.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:17 PM
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11. I lived in Los Angeles area at that time
I remember Sam Yorty. That guy was so dumb I think he could have learned something from the Frat Boy.

As I recall, Yorty didn't leave the Democratic Party until after Tom Bradley defeated him in the LA Mayor's race of 1973.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:38 PM
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14. The moment
he endorsed Bush, he should have been booted out. It's not like the party had to fear pissing off Georgians or alienating them. We didn't have a chance there anyways.

Unfortunately the senate democrats are pansies and can't attack him in any way.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:40 PM
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15. He should be ejected
from *life*
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:43 PM
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16. Yes!!!
I do not see why he has not been kicked out of the party already. I say if he loves Bush so much why doesn't he switch parties and become a Repbulican. I do not believe that kicking him out of the party now will make his speech at the Repbulican Convention look like sour grapes. I think Miller will try to make his ejection from the party seem like sour grapes on the part of the Democratic Party.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:57 PM
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18. Jesus H Christ..hes making the NOMINATING speech...
...at a REPUBLICAN convention....he needs to be kicked out of the party.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:04 PM
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19. Yes, but how do you eject someone from the party?
I eject him in my mind, but does that make him not a Democrat? I hope so.

:shrug:
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