Michelle Obama in for 'Very Ugly Stuff'

[Joanne98]

Like Eleanor Roosevelt and Hillary Clinton before her, Michelle Obama is becoming the would-be first lady conservatives love to hate.

Conservatives take sharp aim at Michelle Obama. The conservative National Review recently showed a stern-faced Michelle Obama on its cover, under the headline, "Mrs. Grievance." The Tennessee Republican Party questioned her patriotism.

Michelle Obama has become a favorite target for critics, drawing many to compare her arrival on the national stage to Hillary Clinton's after she infuriated conservatives when she said, "I could have stayed home and baked cookies."

It's likely to get worse.

"It's going to be very ugly stuff," Democratic strategist Tad Devine said. "They're going to try to depict her as someone who is angry, outside the mainstream and not proud to be an American."

How did a 44-year-old Harvard Law School graduate become so demonized? One reason is the increasingly viral quality of the Internet.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=5144546&page=1

I think we should start getting ready for this now. I can't speak for anyone else but I think we need to totally pound them into the dirt. The problem is we have never did that, no matter what they say. Everytime we take the gloves off someone on OUR SIDE starts complaining about, fairness or something else equally stupid. Take the Republicansexoffenders.com website. Some people think that's over the top. NOT if all the info correct, which it is. I think we should put that stuff on billboards. BTW I don't think attacking Cindy McCain will work. The more I read about John, the more she sounds like a abused wife. Sorry. I think it would be a better to attack conservative women in general. Brand them. We have time to think but I for one don't want to take any shit. At ALL this election.

[Bullet1987]

1. The Republicans fear strong women and always have...

[Joanne98]

3. Yeah but I don't think it will be the men that attack Michelle, ...

They send out that wretched crew of vicious *&^% on their side. You know the type.

[Captain Hilts]

26. Yes, their wives usually have drinking problems.

In a rumble, I'll put my money on Eleanor, Bess, Jackie, LadyBird, Rosslyn and Hillary over Lou, Mamie, Pat , Betty, Nancy, Barb and Laura.

[pnwmom]

34. And so do some Democrats, including

some vocal ones on DU. They would deny it, of course, but their misogynistic language gives them away.

[bunkerbuster1]

2. I like that Republicansexoffenders.com site

I'm going to use that now and again. Perhaps more often than now and again if the shitstorm's as bad as I think it might be.

Yeah, to hell with being fair. Obama can take the high road; we don't have to.

[Joanne98]

4. Good for you. I don't know why people complain, it's all TRUE!

Although, at this point, which all the lies the right has told, we really don't even owe them that much. I mean it's like, they told 5 million lies about us and we told 5 lies about them. I think we should get a free pass for at least 200 lies!

[Joanne98]

5. Like this...conservative women on blogs doing perverse sexual stuff.

http://www.stageleft.info/2008/06/09/i-hear-the-ghost-of-conucopia-stirring/

And it only took me 30 seconds to find.. I think there's a gold mine out there. Especially conservative woman talking about their families on line. I've heard they're NOT as "loyal" as the claim to be. talking shit about their relatives all day long. Start collecting that stuff then run a "Do Conservative Women hate Their Families" article. That would be FUN!

[BeyondGeography]

6. The last eight years have been "very ugly stuff"

Fuck 'em.

[babylonsister]

7. McCain says it's 'tough' to be proud of America

Thank you, McSame, for the ammo.

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/06/mccain-says-its.html

Sat Jun 14, 6:45 PM Pacific
McCain says it's 'tough' to be proud of America

In one fell swoop, John McCain has neutralized one of the most potent lines of attack against Michelle Obama, telling a questioner at a town hall event that he feels "it's tough, it's tough in some respects" to be proud of his country. Jonathan Martin delivers the goods (emphasis added):

So a man finally got a question into McCain and he had a very different sort of question.

The questioner noted that he had been educated at Princeton and Harvard and made more than $300,000 a year.

"How can I be proud of my country?" he asked.

Get it — he was mocking Michelle Obama and her statement earlier this year that her husband had for the first time in her life made her proud of her country.

Well, McCain either missed the joke or decided to ignore it and answer the question literally. I think it was the former because the individual asking the question had a thick accent that sounded to be either Indian or Pakistani, perhaps suggesting to McCain a recent immigrant grappling with America's image abroad.

"I’ll admit to you that it’s tough, it’s tough in some respects," McCain said, seeming to lend credence to Michelle Obama's observation.

McCain said America needed to be "more humble, more inclusive."

What an idiot. The rightwing nutjobs must be furious!

[Clear Blue Sky]

8. Unfortunately it goes with the territory. She can handle it...nt

[Joanne98]

9. OMG The freepers are talking about this very article...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2031478/posts?q=1&;page=101
“She brings it on herself. DUH”

Absolutely. If she would have kept her ungrateful racist trap shut, articles like this wouldn’t be needed. She brought it on herself when she let the world know what she really thought.

17 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 2:14:39 PM by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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Roselyn Carter redux.

Except she is even meaner and smaller of mind, especially as related to any real or imagined slights that have been directed at her or her spouse, who is Jimmy Carter redux.

The fact that her political views probably make Barack Mohammed (since we are no longer to refer to his given middle name) Obama, Jr., the charismatic, messianic Magic Negro, seem almost like a courtly and old-fashioned country-club conservative, might have something to do with this general unwillingness to cut her much slack.

21 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 2:17:53 PM by alloysteel (Carbon dioxide is plant food, no more of a "pollutant" than water or oxygen.)

I don’t hate her. I think she hates us, though - “us” being anybody who is not a liberal b**** like her - or in fact, anybody who is not black. Sorry, I wouldn’t vote for a white who hated non-whites, and I won’t vote for a black who hates non-blacks. She can go and take her Ugly Black Grievance Syndrome somewhere else. Zimbabwe, perhaps. Maybe BO would like to run for president of Zim.

33 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 2:27:13 PM by livius
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I can’t stand this woman. She is dangerous and I hate her more than her dead behind the eyes husband.

45 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 2:35:56 PM by My Favorite Headache (Democrats worry about winning peace prizes , Republicans worry about winning wars)

Oh come on. Don't’ act like you didn't KNOW they would set this up. We could stick strictly to the issues and still be demonized by the Obama Hate Machine. They have had 20+ years of hate schooling.
You thought they would only go after Hillary? We ain't seen nothin’ yet. This will be one of the dirtiest, meanest, ugliest elections in our nations history.

You/we may not agree with how McCain will approach this, but he must stay above this fray. It is a shame that our nation will be distracted from electing the best leader for our nation at a time when we need to be paying attention.

Or this is just the catalyst the militant groups need...

Pray for our Nation.

57 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 2:54:52 PM by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2031478/posts?q=1&;page=101

[butterfly77]

18. I don't even recogize the Obama's in these descriptions...

these people really are afraid of black people, they can't even think rationally ...

[skiekite]

10. How rotten

that the republicans do this. You don't see Democrats going after Laura or Barbra Bush.

[cottonseed]

11. Any self respecting male conservative bigot....

should be ashamed of themselves for making this a fight over wives. I'm so ready this year to take these pussies on!

[Captain Hilts]

16. 'Pussies'. Charming vocabulary. And sexist. nt

[lurky]

12. They can't help themselves.

And it will backfire again and again. When the RW went after Hillary and Chelsea back in the '90s, it made Bill Clinton more popular.

When the RW attacks the spouses and families of candidates, average people get pissed. They come to the side of the people being attacked.

In fact, I think going after Michelle is an even stupider move than going after Hillary, because Hillary was to some extent part of the administration (health care, etc), while Michelle is entirely a private citizen.

[Joanne98]

13. It's been so long since I went over to freeperville bwhahahahaha

These people have something the matter with them. Seriously. I have no idea what it is.. Here's a funny thread..They're bitching about an article that said they're forum had to be shut down when Kennedy went to the hospital..

To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
oh second to last post:

“When Ted Kennedy was diagnosed a couple weeks back, Free Republic had to shut down its forum because the negative comments got out of hand. Let that sink in: the most conservative website had to shut down a forum because they were repulsed by what was being posted about a liberal.”

Well I don’t even bother seeing what the dopes at DU say about conservatives. I gurantee they are nastier than we are as a group overall.



5 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:38:15 AM by modest proposal (Obama 08: all aboard for the Moron Train to Hell)
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It doesn’t surprise me.

Liberals never have their heads out of their butts long enough to learn the truth of any matter.



6 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:38:38 AM by ConservativeMind
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I think it was creative use of the definition of a “forum”. They tried to make a few threads sound like the whole forum.

They knew what they were doing I am sure.



7 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:39:55 AM by modest proposal (Obama 08: all aboard for the Moron Train to Hell)
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This is the post:

“To those who feel like making their point”

A number of you have posted only to have your post deleted. You may not have used profanities. You may not have been racist, sexist or inflammatory. But you broke all standards of good taste.

When Ted Kennedy was diagnosed a couple weeks back, Free Republic had to shut down its forum because the negative comments got out of hand. Let that sink in: the most conservative website had to shut down a forum because they were repulsed by what was being posted about a liberal.

Salon is doing you a favor because even if you won’t look back and be embarrassed, a lot of other people will be pretty disappointed in you. A person, especially a liberal, should never celebrate another’s death, especially when it is someone who has never killed another person but was merely a news personality. You never liked him? Fine. But don’t celebrate his death. That’s morbid and it is, in many ways, inhumane.

Everyone is free to have these thoughts, but for the sake of your own standing you should probably keep them to yourself. If you are unable to understand this, imagine if similar things were said after your wife/parents/child died.

Though I’ll never meet them, I feel very sorry for Mr. Russert’s son and father, and the rest of his family.



8 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:40:21 AM by ConservativeMind
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> Look at this boldface LIE, the last post on the bottom.
You mean this one?:

> When Ted Kennedy was diagnosed a couple weeks back, Free Republic had to shut down its forum because the negative comments got out of hand. Let that sink in: the most conservative website had to shut down a forum because they were repulsed by what was being posted about a liberal.

It suffers from the usual exaggeration that the Lefties seem wont to do. There were multiple threads on the subject, as I recall, and the Admin Mods locked a few threads and deleted many individual posts, and threatened to ban some posters, because of off-color attempts at humor by a tiny minority.

There were many prayers for Ted Kennedy, and many well-wishes: these were by far-and-away the majority of posts.

I don't recall the FRee Republic as a Forum being shut down as a result. But it wasn't destined to be of our brighter moments because of a few off-color posts -- except for the timely and tasteful intervention of our Admin Mods.

Beyond that, there's nothing to get exercized over: the poster has paid the FRee Republic the high compliment of gentlemanly and civilized editorial standard for shutting down the trash talk, and in the same breath criticizing some of their own posters for not achieving those high standards.

Frankly, I'm pleased he said that. It needed to be said.


9 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:45:05 AM by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fà g am bealach.)
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WTF? The sociopaths were angry at Tim Russert? I can't even begin to understand those people...

10 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:49:17 AM by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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They got it wrong about FR shutting down entirely, but FR did shut down every Kennedy thread that day because each one that got started eventually had comments on it that were unbecoming.

This person is giving us a compliment, actually: saying that we have too much class to stand evil comments about even our political enemy when he’s taken ill.

We were also this decent when Bill Clinton had his heart attack. I am proud of the high standards here.



11 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:49:53 AM by Yaelle
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From what I heard they celebrated Charlton Heston’s death at DU. Don’t know if this is true I never checked.



12 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:52:27 AM by modest proposal (Obama 08: all aboard for the Moron Train to Hell)
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I see it differently and certainly not meant as a hat tip to FR. I see it as a lie that FR that had to shut down its forum, and more of a, ‘Let’s not act like they did over Tim Russert.’



13 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:53:49 AM by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Liberals lie.)
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Thanks for fixing the link for me. :)



14 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:55:38 AM by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Liberals lie.)
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To: modest proposal
DU was disgraceful towards Lauran Ingraham when she was diagnosed with cancer. Read it with my own two peeps.



15 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:57:46 AM by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Liberals lie.)
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They got it wrong about FR shutting down entirely, but FR did shut down every Kennedy thread that day because each one that got started eventually had comments on it that were unbecoming.
Not being a person that would ever spend any of my wasted hours visiting DU, anybody ever hear of DU shutting down a thread because it had fallen in to ad homonym attacks and wishes for an individuals demise?

I know that they get pretty nasty over there. I occasionally read the DU Funnies thread.


16 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:03:43 AM by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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> I see it differently and certainly not meant as a hat tip to FR. I see it as a lie that FR that had to shut down its forum, and more of a, ‘Let’s not act like they did over Tim Russert.’

Yes... I see how you get there, it can certainly read that way too. Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt, I say: the main point is right — they shouldn’t speak ill of Tim Russert.



17 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:05:35 AM by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fà g am bealach.)
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Yes... I see how you get there, it can certainly read that way too. Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt, I say: the main point is right — they shouldn’t speak ill of Tim Russert.
I'll try my best. If a lib says, "Good Morning", I suspect a hidden agenda, lol. I've had the same tagline for years.


18 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:09:30 AM by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Liberals lie.)
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Looks like they made an exception for Kennedy, he's certainly killed someone.
A person, especially a liberal, should never celebrate another’s death, especially when it is someone who has never killed another person...


19 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:13:11 AM by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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" If a lib says, "Good Morning", I suspect a hidden agenda"
LOL!


20 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:20:06 AM by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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Wait till carter dies. I’ll be to busy dancing in the street to post anything.



21 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:36:55 AM by BigCinBigD (")
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To: garbanzo
The sociopaths were angry at Tim Russert?
YES!

Kos... DU all had posts vilifying the master propagandist(Russert) for the DNC. It not only shows their stupidity... but their hatred for any rational discourse.


24 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:39:54 AM by johnny7 (Don't mess with my tag-lines!)
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Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment.



25 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:11:22 AM by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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Well, I remember that the Moderators shut down at least 5-8 threads about Kennedy because certain people (2 every 20 posts or so) seemed to be breaking the rules and kept getting pulled.

Hardly a “shutting down of the forum”.



26 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:54:37 AM by aristotleman (....in wolves' clothing....stealing ur prey.....)
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Salon.Com?!?!?

LOL, that’s rich. In the kitchen of liberal online ‘journalism’, Salon is nothing more than cockroach droppings.

No legs, no antennae, just droppings and damn few readers.



27 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 8:52:13 AM by mkjessup (Obama-flakes! = Little suntanned Jimmy Carters with twice the empty rhetoric , from DNC cereals!)
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Wait till carter dies. I’ll be too busy dancing in the street to post anything.

I'll be busy too, as I have the coveted "P*ss on the Peanut" concession at the official Jimmy Carter burial site and my business is ALREADY booming with reservations! LOL

28 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 8:56:56 AM by mkjessup (Obama-flakes! = Little suntanned Jimmy Carters with twice the empty rhetoric , from DNC cereals!)
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Salon? Are they still in business? There use to be a rule here, that if you posted nonsense from salon.com, you also had t post their stock price. I’m too lazy.



29 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:00:21 AM by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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the main point is right — they shouldn’t speak ill of Tim Russert.
Anybody on the left is the enemy.

They will joyfully pull the lever for a Marxist candidate that is hell bent for leather to turn our country into a socialist/communist regime and take away my/your/our freedom.

Conservatives are going to have to draw a line in the sand and take a hard stance or we're in danger of losing everything the founders and all others fought and died for.

I do not celebrate TR's death. However, I do see it as one less vote for O. Hussein and one less liberal voice on the air pitching a Marxist agenda.

(Admin Moderator: you can remove this post but it won't change my position.)


30 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:05:39 AM by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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> However, I do see it as one less vote for O. Hussein and one less liberal voice on the air pitching a Marxist agenda.

Mate — that is really cold, and I’m stunned.

That’s a helluva way to sum up a man’s entire life. It’s not like he was in al Qaeda, and to the best of my knowledge he didn’t kill anyone.

> Anybody on the left is the enemy.

No, I respectfully disagree: they are an opponent to be out-voted.

Enemies are to be bayoneted or hanged or shot or killed by whatever means at your disposal, to the point of abject defeat and unconditional surrender and/or extermination.

And there are very very few — if any — people on the left in the United States or in New Zealand where I live who would qualify for the bayonet or the rope or a bullet.

You need to get a grip. You need to grab a good handful of proportionality. Take a cold shower or a long vacation. Or a happy pill.

Crikey.



31 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:17:20 AM by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fà g am bealach.)
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Liberals never have their heads out of their butts long enough to learn the truth of any matter.
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We must call them what they are: Marxists and Communists.

Corollary:

**ALL** Marxists and Communists lie!


32 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:26:14 AM by wintertime (A mother is as happy as her least successful child.)
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And there are very very few — if any — people on the left in the United States or in New Zealand where I live who would qualify for the bayonet or the rope or a bullet.
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I surely agree. There is still plenty of wriggle room in the political process and our culture to defeat the Marxists, communists, and Useful Idiots.

But I fear for my children and grand children.

33 posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:29:48 AM by wintertime (A mother is as happy as her least successful child.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2031344/posts

[me b zola]

14. I look forward to Senator Clinton strongly defending Michelle

--and all of Senator Clinton's former pres hopeful supporters.

Do we really love strong women who will fight for us? I do. I support Michelle Obama.

[Captain Hilts]

17. We already are. nt

[me b zola]

24. Thank you

I have been very impressed with some of those who supported Hillary's pres. bid.

Michelle really is a hell of a woman. A role model to emulate, a woman we should all support.

[Captain Hilts]

27. Appreciated, but not necessary...

women in a position such as hers are between a rock and a hard place.

They need all the support we can give them.

[VotesForWomen]

30. why? O and his supporters never defended her. nt

[NatBurner]

33. namaste

[Captain Hilts]

15. Sock it to 'em, Michelle -

[FrenchieCat]

19. Also check out the new website.....

http://michelleobamawatch.com/

To track everything that is being said about her and by whom.

[Writer]

20. I hope this time we'll come together and OPPOSE the obvious sexism at play.

Michelle Obama is attractive and intelligent. That's a threat to many men AND women.

[DebJ]

29. and Michelle is just 'real people'

[anonymous171]

21. We have Larry Johnson, a supposed democrat, to thank for the white smear.

[AnnieBW]

22. Michelle is from the South Side of Chicago

She can probably put them in their place in multiple ways.

[CreekDog]

23. are we talking about in the future?

:rofl:

:wtf:

[Donkey_Punch_Dubya]

25. If a Dem candidate's wife killed someone with a car like Laura Bush,

it would've gotten about 1243948 hours of news air and been a central issue in the campaign. As it is, almost nobody even knows about Laura's accident when she was 17. There is a double standard, and we need to be sure that the GOP candidate's wife gets at least 20% as much airtime for stealing drugs from a charity and abusing Pecocet as a Dem's wife would.

The republicans and the republican noise machine will continue attacking Michelle Obama until average Joes get the impression that she is some evil, angry militant who wants to put all white people in concentration camps.

We CANNOT let this same nonstop negative smearing happen this time.

We can see from the rnc.com website that is 100% attack Obama and doesn't even mention McCain that they are going to make this election entirely about "vote against Obama", and the media will run with this.

Fighting back is not doing anything unseemly, it is the only way to level the playing field.

[MrSlayer]

28. I don't know why the first lady is even a factor in this.

She's not the President, is not shaping policy and basically does nothing but photo ops. Who cares?

[Vinca]

31. Republicans are assuming that Democrats will stick their fingers

in their ears and sing "la-la-la-la-la" until it goes away because that's what has happened in the past. I don't think that will happen this time, given the organization on the Internets and the level of rage in this country. We can't allow anything to just hang there.

[pnwmom]

35. And since a good number of Dems joined in with the Hillary-hate,

the Rethugs hope that they can spread the Michelle hate, too.

[Overseas]

32. Obama Campaign is ready with FIGHT THE SMEARS dot com

They have their site ready to go with smears and correct info ready to send.

[uponit7771]

36. Now THIS is something women should be screaming over. reThugs hate strong women