A couple Embarrassing items in McCain's Past.....

[RazBerryBeret]

there are lots, but these two are kinda funny:

1. When he graduated from Annapolis, there were 899 Midshipmen in his class. Ensign John McCain graduated 894th ---- 5th from the bottom.

2. When he became a Navy jet pilot, you're normally allowed to ditch just one of those multi-million dollar jets in the drink. McCain put, count 'em, THREE of them into the drink. Even by an average accountant's reckoning, and let's assume that the CPA is a Republican, that's up to 100 million tax payer bucks down the drain.

Not much of an over-achiever, huh?

combine that with ditching your former model wife after she's in a life-threatening accident that changes her appearance, have an affair with an heiress, while you're on 100% disability from the military, getting social security AND holding down a job as a senator....

what a winner!!!

[Gore1FL]

1. Do the three include the crash in VN?

or did he actually sink 3 in the ocean?

I any case do you have a link for those 2 items so I can annoy some Right Wing Nuts with them?

[RazBerryBeret]

13. links:

http://race42008.com/john-mccain/
last line of the second paragraph (graduation from Annapolis)

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_mccain_lost_five_u.htm
guess he lost a total of FIVE jets, 4 in "accidents and one in combat...

[grantcart]

29. One of the accidents was a terrible fire on an aircraft carrier that some

far right wingers have tried to stick on him but it appears to be his bad luck - wrong place wrong time.

[madeline_con]

2. Keep up the good work.

Thanks for the info.

[TwilightGardener]

3. McCain is not that impressive. Being a POW was his best career move, though awful/unintentional.

He really skated on that for almost 40 years now. Nothing about him suggests high intellect, competence, or the ability to achieve on his own--he needed his (Admiral) Dad, his heiress mistress/wife and his father-in-law, his cronies on Capitol Hill helping an old war hero out. Compare his life to Obama's--Obama is the bootstrap guy.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. does he take ownership of any major initiatives or legislation?

[TwilightGardener]

11. As far as I remember, campaign finance reform and immigration reform.

And Commerce Committee stuff, and the anti-torture bill that he has since turned his back on. I don't know that he was a true leader on anything besides CFR, and even that was grandstanding.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. but immigration didn't pass and obama was on the campaign

finance deal. Hell, he has NO leg up. All those YEARS of experience mean nothing. But,
it is a good meme for their side. O's got to crack it open

[roguevalley]

23. don't forget, it was BAD to torture him, not BAD to torture the others

now. he is fighting the viet nam war here. he believed that civilians and the people lost the war, not the military and if we just allow the military to go on willy nilly, we will win this war. He's psycho.

[TwilightGardener]

26. Yep--I agree. He's psycho. He thinks we shoulda coulda woulda won Vietnam--

if only that DAMN CIVILIAN government and its stupid and reckless control of the military didn't pull the plug before we reached our orgasm of glorious victory there. That's what he thinks about Iraq, too.

[speedoo]

4. Tip of the iceberg, I'm afraid.

His POW status has masked a very flawed man.

[sellitman]

5. I'm waiting for his temper to flair up.

That will happen before this election cycle is over and I am looking forward to it bigtime.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. Hey, maybe someone could set him up to explode ! that would be great !

[dana_b]

19. he's going to have a difficult time of it during the debates with Obama.

hee hee....:evilgrin:

[sellitman]

27. Maybe he will cheat like dubya did.

Those pictures of his radio equipment still make me laugh.

[jerryster]

24. Probably won't happen.

It hasn't happened yet. You can be sure his handlers are telling him every day to be mindful of his temper.
On the other hand, Olbermann had a great bit the other day about Cavuto (I think it was Cavuto) who now says he wants Mccain to show his temper because it will scare dictators!! What a fox twit.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. Ha ! I have to wonder if all the holy-roller repukes could hear

him call his wife a trollop and a c&%t - would they still vote for him? wish they
had that on film. What a total creep. I don't care how mad my husband is with me - he
would never in a million years call me that.

I have really changed my opinion of him. I now think he is a crotchety, creepy, stupid old man.
And - my biggest pet peeve is that no one asks him how he can pay for the war, given his tax
cuts. Biggest elephant in the room. And like someone else said, no one could think it possible,
but AssHat is actually smarter than McCain !

[SwampG8r]

8. uss forrestal

[TwilightGardener]

10. That wasn't his fault.

[SwampG8r]

12. witnesses say otherwise

and the investigation was inconclusive
his "wet start" is mentioned as a cause by several who were there


eta these links and quotes

http://judicial-inc.biz/82jjohn_mccain_and_the_uss_forr...
http://www.blah3.com/article.php?story=2007012218395085...
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_11_16/ai...
a quote from a witness
Patane Joseph M.
Service Dates=4/65 to 9/68

I served aboard Forrestal at the time of the fire aboard ship while attached to fighter squadron eleven out of Oceana Va. It just so happend that I was working on the flight deck at the time of the fire onthe flight deck, if it wasn't for this I believe in all honesty that I would have been killed with the 80 0r 90 some of my shipmates caught in their bunks asleep, I also believe that I wouldn't be able to say I saw what started the fire to begin with, and that's why I was put back on forrestal when she came home from PI ON her way back to Norfolk Va. McCain keeps blaming my squadron for this fire, when in all actuality, it was a fuel leak off his center line tank, and the ships power cords used to supply the electrial to turn up our craft, not VF-11 SHOOTION a missle acrost the flight deck as we we blamed for, and still are to this day,and if able I would tell Senator McCain what a lier he really is.

[Overseas]

15. That's the darling John Sidney McCain III, le maverique

Son of an admiral, remarried to an heiress.

[RazBerryBeret]

16. amazing life story, huh?

great contrast to our Nominee!

[FightingIrish]

17. With his face firmly implanted in the butt of a dictator

[dana_b]

18. 5th from the bottom?

I'm sure that Annapolis isn't easy by any means but damn. Let's face it, the man is not that sharp nor does he have a sparkling wit. You'd think the GOP would want someone who would not so closely resemble the current buffoon in office.

[RazBerryBeret]

20. I'm not sure, but I think Bush graduated higher than that...

but then I think his dad's money helped a bit...

hey, who is that in your avatar?

[dana_b]

21. Pearl Jam

I know it's hard to see, but I really like the pic.

Didn't Bush have a "c" average in Yale?

[RazBerryBeret]

22. ahh! Pearl Jam, great band..

yeah, I think Bush was a "C" student....
scares me to think that McCain is actually Worse than Bush in the intelligence department, can you imagine????

But I seriously Can NOT wait to see Obama and McCain debate, on the same stage...I think it will be awesome.

[dana_b]

25. I know. I think I'll tape them for when I want

to have a good laugh in the future.

To get a "C", you pretty much spend little to no time studying. Just show up to class, turn in crap work and don't study for tests. So either they really were/are stupid, or just lazy.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

28. I read somewhere that it was 5 planes that McSame crashed.

[GoneOffShore]

30. He rightly earned the nickname "Crash"