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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:40 AM
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Is it time to go after the flight physical yet?
Kerry has opened up on the offensive side of the defense now.

The latest moveon ad actually mentioned the flight physical.

Is there some way for surrogates to start demanding Bush release the records dealing with this aspect of his guard duty?

Is it too early?

Is it inappropriate?

I know what most here feel, but, strategically speaking, what is best for the campaign?

Recall that Bush had made several excuses for not taking it, the first being that his personal physician wasn't available to give it to him, but this has been debunked.

The second was that, since he'd decided to go to Alabama, he wouldn't be flying, therefore, no physical was necessary.

There's a third that's been cited, but I can't remember/find it.

Anybody know what it was?

I started the following thread, in search of a previous thread, which was much better written/organized, but nobody came up with it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=624346

Is it time to get the ball rolling on this, or not?

Various pundits have said that the entire Bush campaign has been designed to tear Kerry apart, noting that Bush has nothing at all positive to run upon. Craig Henry, of the Hotline, I think, said that the challenger is the one doing the attacking, and is mystified at his, so far, mostly passive role.

So, knowing that the Bush campaign is based almost entirely on personal attacks, why not respond in kind?

We all know that character is an issue, and that the current occupant campaigned last time on a promise to restore honor and integrity to the WH. How ironic is that?
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:47 AM
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1. how's this.....Yes! don't make the same mistake twice
use Kerry's opening volley to capitalize on the attention

strike while iron is hot
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:48 AM
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2. Personally
I don't see any down side to demanding that * release all his records. Before he came on the scene and the mediawhores gave him a pass, that was expected of all candidates.:eyes:
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:52 AM
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3. of course, AND, he keeps saying he's released them all,
and then, some more turn up, or they claim some more are either missing or destroyed

when are the media going to stop swallowing, and start demanding they do what they claimed they've already done

this tactic, of course, has the advantage of having TRUTH behind it

isn't it amazing that pug attacks are almost always based on lies and distortion?

then, when a dem simply asks for the truth to be revealed, they REFUSE, and call such simple requests personal ATTACKS!

can you say projection?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:54 AM
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4. YES! Enough is enough.
It's time for the public (that's us) to loudly demand that BushCo release everyone of his records and prove that he showed up for service in Alabama.

Anything less is unacceptable. We need to bug the media like crazy about this.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:54 AM
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5. I see not problem, but won't they just say all records are out?
I know...they have said all available records have already been released..several times now, and somehow a few more keep surfacing, but won't that be their response again?

I think, unless we can, through the FOIA we can get the records, it's probably not worth persueing.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:07 PM
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6. they can SAY it, but it's not true.
the whole point of this is to get the records concerning the flight physical released

most people with a good deal of knowledge on this aspect of the case think that, if ANY records have been altered, 'lost,' or destroyed, these would be the ones.

and there is evidence that some have already been altered or scrubbed

pressure by the dems NEEDS to be applied, because the media's FAVORITE excuse is that they don't investigate ANYTHING unless the oppposing party makes enough of a stink

that's a pathetic excuse for cowardly, venal, laziness (the best face one can put on this seminal abrogationn of the first duty of the fourth estate), but it's one they use all the time.

so....it's up to dems to MAKE the stink, and keep doing it until it can't be ignored
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