What do people think about Pelosi as VP?

[99th_Monkey]

I hadn't considered her before, but the idea occurred to me while watching the DNC's press conference video.

A) she's a WOMAN ..

B) she represents a crucial must-win state for Dems in GE, albeit from a "latte drinking liberal" area of the state.

C) she could have become president anytime she wanted to be for the past 2 years if only she had listened to the
outcry among principled Democrats for Impeaching Bush & Cheney.

D) she appeared to be "part of the solution" in working with constructively with Howard Dean to successfully navigate
the stormy waters of the Obama/Clinton Primary battle.

E) she appears to have an amicable and positive relationship with Obama..


I'm not even sure what I think about her as VP, mainly because I've been personally SO-O-O pissed at her for taking
impeachment "off the table" for past couple of years, I cannot claim to be remotely "objective" about her ... but other
than buckling on impeachment, I admit I don't know much about her in terms of the over-all job she's done as House Speaker..

Reactions?

[datadiva]

1. NO n/t

[99th_Monkey]

5. How suscinct of you.

Mind if I ask why? The impeachment thing, or just in general (specifics)?

[hokies4ever]

43. Not this year

Pelosi is too valuable as Speaker of the House. She has a great working relationship with Obama and they admire and respect each other. She will be valuable to him for helping to push legislation through.

[99th_Monkey]

64. Judging by some of these responses, many would rather have Nancy on the Commitee

in charge of the Capital Latrines. She's pissed me off too about the impeachment thing, so i understand that sentiment.

So I guess we'll see how it unfolds.

[mamalone]

2. What do I think?

not much... nuff said.

[Cant trust em]

3. There are better women that we could take.

I'm from San Francisco, and I don't think that her on the ticket helps us out in any way. VPs should come from places that are on the fence. Not the ones that are strongly on our side.

[99th_Monkey]

16. Thanks for the Calif. perspective. ~nt~

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. That would be NO.

I'm so pissed at her about taking impeachment off the table that I'd love to see her thrown out of Congress.

But that's just me.

x(

[JVS]

8. You go, Peggy!

[99th_Monkey]

I hear ya! That's kinda my feelings to, but was curious how people would respond.

and I'm hearing thumbs down. :thumbsdown:

[TahitiNut]

26. No, it's not just you. Me, too.

She can shove that table right up her ... :grr:

Well, it's obviously a small one, right? :evilgrin:

[az chela]

32. And me too

Nancy is a bush lover,she supports the war as her husband is the owner of a bif contracting company rebuilding Iraq

[MonkeyFunk]

6. Nope

she adds nothing, electorally.

He doesn't need a elderly San Francisco liberal. It doesn't help him anywhere.

[terrya]

22. Yes.

This is correct. Good analysis.

[marylanddem]

7. ugh.

[newmajority]

9. I don't think we're in much danger of losing California

No, Pelosi should not be VP. Nor should she be Speaker of the House any longer. Her complete spinelessness in the face of CRIMINALS should not be rewarded.

[rock]

10. A) is a pretty crappy reason

In any case, I say no.

[99th_Monkey]

14. It's not a big concern of mine, but I've heard it suggested it's an issue for many women

but on the other hand, it would really piss off the Clintons no-end according to reports I've seen.

kind of a quandary I guess.

[rock]

20. True, on both counts

But let me try to state this as fairly as I can (keep in mind I'm a Hillfan): the women liked Hillary because she understands women's issues and this may be (probably is) due to her being female. Her being female all by itself is not a reason they like her.

[Mz Pip]

78. NO!

There are plenty of liberals who hate her because she took Impeachment off the table. Then there are the conservatives and moderates who hate McCain but also can't stand Pelosi because she's too liberal.

Obama needs someone on the ticket who isn't so polarizing.

[tridim]

11. Boxer yes, Pelosi no.

[Cant trust em]

27. Can I get that on a bumper sticker?

I voted for Golub in the CA-9 primary.

[GCP]

12. NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

She's horrendous

[geckosfeet]

13. series11

[DJ13]

15. NoNoNo NoNoNo

The lady has no spine.

I love her policy positions, but she never goes to bat to get any passed.

[Hardrada]

17. Don't take ANY Dems out of the Congress.

[Hatchling]

18. ABSOLUTELY NOT!

She passed up the chance to be the first woman president, she doesn't deserve to be the first woman VP. Arrrrgggghhhhhhh!!!1

[MrCoffee]

19. Fuck no. Now I need a shower just for having that thought in my head.

[99th_Monkey]

24. Well, I guess I asked for that .. but relax .. I'm not pushing the idea, but was just curious.

now I found out. resoundingly in fact.

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enjoy the shower though ;-)

[MrCoffee]

25. lol, it was either type that or vomit everywhere...kudos to you!

I congratulate you on writing an effective OP :rofl: :hi:

[CanonRay]

21. Over my dead body

She's off the table.

[Indenturedebtor]

23. Impeachment is off the table... so is Pelosi for VP n/t

[Freddie Stubbs]

30. Obama opposes impeachment also

[MonkeyFunk]

31. Shhh!!

When Pelosi says it, she's a sellout whore.


When Obama says it, he's a smart politician.


The hatred againt Pelosi here is just ridiculous.

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[Zhade]

40. There is a difference: it's in her power to initiate proceedings - or shut them down, as she has.

Obama is not in her position.

That said, I am not happy with Obama's year-old stance on this issue. It gives me considerable pause.

The hatred for anyone willing to let criminals walk is hardly ridiculous.

[MonkeyFunk]

44. No, he's not in her position

but he takes the same position she does.

How can she be so reviled for it while he escapes that scorn?

I call it hypocrisy.

[Zhade]

49. It's not hypocrisy. Let me try again: he doesn't have the power to make it happen.

She does, yet she refuses her sworn duty to hold criminals accountable.

There's a difference, which I think you're honest enough to admit.

[MonkeyFunk]

59. he opposes her using her power to do it

You would have a point if he wanted her to do it, and she refused. But he agrees with her assessment that impeaching now would be stupid.

Thank God Pelosi can count to 67, which evidently makes her smarter than most people here.

[Zhade]

74. Yeah, letting criminals walk is so much better.

How do you sleep at night?

[Indenturedebtor]

33. He can't really support it in the middle of a pres campaign

Too hot a potato. He's not speaker of the house.

[Freddie Stubbs]

34. You mean that supporting impeachment won't bring Obama a tidal wave of support?

:shrug:

[Indenturedebtor]

35. Not the way the media will spin it.

I would support it but it would dramatically distract from the issues.

I support Impeachment, but it should be done without Obama.

[MonkeyFunk]

37. the how is it wise for Pelosi to push it?

IT makes no sense.

And if Pelosi pushed it, Obama would have to take a position, wouldn't he?

[Indenturedebtor]

41. Yes but Pelosi would be more likely to get elected

So why not push it? Obama would be less likely at this point, which would hurt our chances this fall.

He could back it if there was a groundswell, but shouldn't take the risk at this point imo.

[Freddie Stubbs]

46. Except that Obama has already come out in opposition to impeachment

[Rosa Luxemburg]

28. she is very capable but she seemed to let everyone down

so I don't think so.

[Douglas Carpenter]

29. not a snowballs chance in hell that will happen

Speaker Pelosi like Sen. Boxer represent a state that is considered a safe Democratic state. Even most people here including myself don't consider them too liberal..both their images nationally are as San Francisco latte liberals.

I believe they will be looking for a candidate who can help make inroads into rural areas, the West, the South or border states and whose image resonates stronger with working class voters.

[lonestarnot]

36. ewwww NO!

[Zhade]

38. Her cowardly abdication of her sworn duty to hold criminals accountable renders her a non-starter.

No one who has it in their power to initiate proceedings - or, fuck, the HEARINGS we were promised that never arrived - and instead lets criminals walk will ever, EVER get my vote.

It's the least I can do on behalf of the million Iraqis this administration has murdered with its damnable lies.

[vaberella]

68. Too true, even though I find Pelosi entertaining.

[PoliticalAmazon]

42. IX-NAY ON THE ELOSI-PAY. n/t

[Dinger]

45. She Says Impeachment Is Off The Table, So

she can go to hell. She's been an enabler since she got her "new" job. As someone else in this thread said, there are better choices.

[dailykoff]

47. Not a deal breaker.

Could be worse.

[bigwillq]

48. No

Don't really know why, but no.

[Norwood]

50. No thanks, there are others who would make better sense for VP

Richardson, Clark, Webb, Sebelius, Biden, Schweitzer, Clinton, and perhaps Dodd for example.

[SoCalDem]

51. She's too old..

Sorry to be crass, but it's the truth.. If he chooses a woman vp, she should be young enough to run as an "under-60" candidate in 2016..

Janet Napolitano fits..and maybe Sebelius (don't know her age)..but the worst thing he could do is to choose someone who might be perceived as too old in '16..

[emilyg]

52. No.

[TexanDem]

53. absolutely NOT. She had mandate for impeachment, but took it off the table! no way!

[JuniperLea]

61. Exactly!

She wasted her mandate, and that makes her a waste!

[OzarkDem]

54. Not very much

She's barely even a Dem, the most useless Speaker we've had in eons.

The only positive would be if she could be replaced by someone with a brain and spine.

[Raine]

55. No, I'm a Californian and CA is already

in the Democratic bag no need to pick someone from here. Also Pelosi is needed more right where she is.

[democrattotheend]

56. Sadly, she's too much of a punching bag for the right AND for Clinton supporters

I like her, but she would hurt the ticket.

[Moochy]

57. I supported Pelosi for president '07

But we kept the powder dry.

[99th_Monkey]

63. LOL - I pretty much agree. ~nt~

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

58. Oh HELL No...

There are certain varieties of plant life I would rather see as Vice President.

[Blue-Jay]

60. I can't see an up-side to it.

[Starlight]

71. ITA. She'd be a terrible choice.

[rateyes]

62. ...

:puke:

[iconicgnom]

65. An O/P slogan: now, impeachment is off the table, tomorrow

everything will be off! Yay! Obama, McCain, Tweedledum, Treedledee, re legal accountability!

Because, it's clear, no crimes were committed against Iraq, against US citizens, against humanity. In fact, by gawd, a wonderful precedent has been set for "superpowers" everywhere and we can only dream about how such a precedent can be followed up on tomorrow - by a superpower here, a superpower there, that doesn't have to account for shit. For anything. Nyah hah!

[OwnedByFerrets]

66. If you HAD to have a female on the ticket.....

I would chose Barbara Boxer. AFAIK, she is a real fighter and fights for progressives.

[williesgirl]

67. No fucking way - and she should step down as Speaker as well.

[TexasObserver]

69. just don't see it

[ladjf]

70. Please no Pelosi.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

72. Yuck.

Just becasue she supported Obama?

[nebula]

73. Her NO vote to the Iraq War was the best thing Pelosi ever did

she has been a disappointment ever since.

[jgraz]

75. I've been trying to get her to be president for the past 2 years. Looks like she doesn't want it.

Also, I fear the "vetting" would bring her down, given her collaboration with Bush's torture and black-site prison policies.

[rove karl rove]

76. on the surface, she's good as you say but...

she's Speaker of the House, and a high-profile one - she's been weak and reactive and would actually be a political liability - there's TOO much record here.

[Beacool]

77. NO!!!

After the many times that she didn't even pretend, as Speaker of the House, to stay neutral and kept saying no to a potential "dream ticket", she can got to hell as far as I'm concerned.