McCain Might Have Vascular Dementia

[DemocratSinceBirth]

He seems to get easily confused and has many verbal lapses...If I was him I would have a MRI...My mom had a MRI about ten years ago after she had a transient ischemic attack...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. Or, it could be his meth addiction.

Something ain't right.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. I Tend Toward Vascular Dementia

Sounds like narrowing of the arteries...

[PBS Poll-435]

3. Really?

O8) :bounce: :mad: :smoke: :crazy: :hangover:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. I Am Serious

He seems to get confused.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. So am I.

It could also be meth, booze, Alzheimers, or any number of problems.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. Could Be Alzheimers Whose Symptoms Mimic Dementia

Or , in fairness , it could be nothing...

But he makes at least one verbal faux pas a day...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

15. Oh, I think it's definitely something.

He's not all there.

[PBS Poll-435]

34. Lead

From his stylish felt hats.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

37. I guess it could be from the plumbing...

they used to have in ancient Rome.

[myrna minx]

47. How well do we know his haberdasher?

:hi:

[PBS Poll-435]

8. Oh...he IS confused. Often

But meth?

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[WilliamPitt]

4. Ibogaine.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. Inconcievable.

[dflprincess]

24. Hey! That's what Ed Muskie used

or so Hunter Thompson said so it must be true!

http://www.vcdh.virginia.edu/HIUS316/mbase/docs/hsthomp.html

It is entirely conceivable -- given the known effects of Ibogaine -- that Muskie's brain was almost paralyzed by hallucinations at the time; that he looked out at that crowd and saw gila monsters instead of people, and that his mind snapped completely when he felt something large and apparently vicious clawing at his legs. We can only speculate on this, because those in a position to know have flatly refused to comment on rumors concerning the Senator's disastrous experiments with Ibogaine. I tried to find the Brazilian doctor on election Bight in Milwaukee, but by the time the polls closed he was long gone. One of the hired bimbos in Milwaukee's Holiday Inn headquarters said a man with fresh welts on his head had been dragged out the side door and put on a bus to Chicago, but we were never able to confirm this. . . .

[Avalux]

7. I tend to agree; he's got something going on.

And my mother says "anyone who spent 7 years in prison like he did can't be all there mentally". It may not be politically correct for her to say this, but that's what she thinks. She's voted Republican all her life.

[elocs]

17. How did McCain ever escape PTSD after being a POW and tortured for so long?

Seriously, is this the kind of man we would want anywhere near "the button"? The man who claims to hate war, but jokingly sings about bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb Iran. He was a bomber in Vietnam and knows what bombs do to people--targeted and intended, or innocent civilians.

I think that if McCain does not fall apart first that Obama will campaign him into the ground by November. Just wait until people get to see the two of them side by side at the debates.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. But PTSD Wouldn't Necessarily Make You Confused

Alzheimer's Disease or vascular dementia would...

[elocs]

36. I think the point is that McCain has a host of mental, emotional, and physical problems. n/t

[Avalux]

21. I'm not sure he did escape PTSD.

He is mentally deficient PLUS he has a temper problem. I certainly don't want him anywhere near the button - scares the hell out of me.

[papapi]

9. Or he might be the son of the village idiot - dubya.

[NC_Nurse]

11. My mom has it. Hers is much worse, but she's had it for 4-5 years.

He definitely doesn't seem quite right. Who knows?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Seventy Two Years Old Is Rather Young To Have It

My mom is ninety years old now, god bless her, and shows symptoms of dementia but it is mild...I suspect for her age group she's doing well...

We discuss current events and I encourage her to focus...

[NC_Nurse]

31. She's had it since her late sixties. So did her mom.

[islandmkl]

12. raymond (m.c.johnny) is behaving about as one would expect, i think...

just keep the deck of cards and the rifle out of reach...

[Bread and Circus]

14. I don't want to make a Frist diagnosis, but I'm worried he has early dementia

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Aren't You A Physician

That's my w.a.g.

It could be nothing... He should have an MRI...

[SuperTrouper]

33. I agree, it is possible that he has Binswanger's disease

since he has many mood swings, history of hypertension and most likely atherosclerosis (not to mention multiple episodes of confusion and gaffes in the campaign trail)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. Vascular Dementia, Alzheimers Disease, Binswanger's Disease

Have similar symptoms with the most prominent one being confusion...

[JuniperLea]

20. Could be a lot of things...

Head injury, stroke, dementia, oldtimer's disease...

He ain't right. He just ain't right.

I think this is a cruel, cruel trick the GOP has played on him. Shame on them for making this poor old fool run. It's a very sad display.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. I'm Hoping It's Nothing...He Just Seems Oft Confused...

I just want to defeat the man...I don't want to humiliate him...

[JuniperLea]

29. I know... we're caught between that rock and a hard place...

I blame the GOP for anything that gets hurled at McCain. They set him up... they always get their way with candidates. They must feel he's the least likely to be needed in the future... he's expendable. This campaign is going to ruin any further chances of him being elected to any office.

He's a joke, and the GOP like it that way. They are sick and twisted.

[charlie]

22. Should be a boon for a Republican candidate

Makes him more Reaganesque.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. Reagan Was Mentally Sharp In The 80 Campaign

Not so much toward the end of his second term

[charlie]

38. Reagan was already fading by '80

One of the things his burgeoning discombobulation did was sand off his rough edges, made him less of a prickly bastid, more of the genial boob conservatives revere.

[npincus]

25. so why is it ageism to call him "Grandpa" if he has an age-related infirmity?

I also think he's on the road to senility... no kidding whatwoever. He is unfit for the job.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. I Don't Think I'm An Agesist...That's As Bad As Any Other Ism

But his behavior makes me suspicious...

[npincus]

50. I don't think you are, either.

Not at all. I have called him "Grandpa" any number of times here and someone always calls me an ageist. As you point out, he may have an age-related condition which renders him unfit to serve, so I think Grandpa" is the least offensive nod to his advanced years, which ARE an issue!

It sure as hell had better be! Haven't we suffered enough under the reign of ONE unfit idiot?

[NC_Nurse]

32. Not all grandpa's have infirmities....just being old isn't a problem.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. Konrad Adenauer Ran Post War Germany At 87

John Paul Stevens is 88...

Depends on the person but as one grows older their risk for Alzheimers Disease and dementia increase...

I don't think he's going to fare well down the stretch...

[jumptheshadow]

48. I agree with you

There have been so many reports of dementia type of symptoms with McCain that I would be concerned if I was a family member. My aunt, who got her Master's degree in her 50s and was bright and chipper all through her early 70s, started to experience exactly the same type of issues in her mid 70s. It was almost as if she had been forcefully shifted into a new world that was totally unrecognizable. It gets dangerous because the person ultimately doesn't have a sense of what is and isn't safe. For his sake and our nation's, he needs to have an MRI.

[jumptheshadow]

54. Why?

Observing that he exhibits physical symptoms that would disqualify him from the Presidency is one thing. Using even mild terms like "Gramps," while it's your prerogative, can be damaging in two ways:

1) McCain's strategy is to win older swing voters and it behooves us to use some salesmanship with them, and,

2) A lot of us have lived with the pain of seeing a beloved older relative suffer with dementia or Alzheimers. It just seems heartless to throw gratuitous insults at a group of people who have lost so much when you can highlight McCain's obvious disqualifications in other ways.

[eShirl]

26. if I was a family member, I'd be worried how much longer he can manage his affairs

I know my own elderly parents are declining

[philkd]

30. GOPers always want a Reagan figure, well here's the area Mc lives up to

[galledgoblin]

39. he's got something at least

I've been saying for years now that the man he was in 2000 is gone and he's been degrading further day by day.

it's shameful that he's not in a hospital getting tested and is instead a presidential frontrunner... I mean, if you're sick, doctors recommend as much rest as possible, not taking on one of the most stressful and taxing jobs in modern culture!

[frickaline]

40. His medical records showed no indication of this?

I wonder if he takes oxygen at all. Would this only show up on an MRI? I haven't really seen evidence to support this, but in a 71 year old, it is certainly a possibility.

My Grandmother suffers from this condition. She can barely speak anymore, mostly just gibberish non sequiturs. She started out with merely forgetting a few names here and there. Sort of degenerated into forgetting people, needing to read aloud street signs she passed, paranoia about people stealing from her, and finally failing to construct meaningful dialog. The whole process only took a few years.

If McCain is in the early stages of this he won't have long. If he does suffer from this condition, it may explain why he already plans to only run for 1 term in office.

[Raine1967]

41. Medical Records?

No one has seen them in thier complete form.

Journalists had a limited amount of time, and no cameras or recording devices were allowed when he open then up. He is 100% disabled, and I wonder if some of it is for PTSD.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. Here

http://www.alz.org/national/documents/Imaging_consensus_report.pdf

[Ichingcarpenter]

43. He has a documented case of "Faecal Encephalopathy" and

Cranio-Rectal Syndrome and Cranial Rectosis
which is on page 1099 of his medical report

[Voltaire99]

45. Possible.

He could simply be slow, old and filled with rage, too.

Whatever the truth, he's no one who should be within a mile of the Button.

[marshall]

46. What happened to mandatory retirement at age 65?

Both of my parents were retired before 65. They well realized that they were NOT able to fulfill the functions of their high stress job. And yet we have a slew of adle brained oldsters in all branches of our government.

[retread]

49. He's been a media "darling" and has never been called on his bullshit and lapses

before. Why should he expect anything to change? He seems to be unaware of YouTube.

Besides, confusion and verbal lapses are requirements for repug nominees.

[Lautremont]

51. That's why I call him "Uncle Scrotus."

[Rosa Luxemburg]

52. but we are allowed to say that he is OLD

I think it is just incompetence

[hulka38]

53. That's a funny headline but geez, give the guy a break.

[rateyes]

55. He doesn't have dementia...

he just just has shit for brains.

[Ichingcarpenter]

57. Faecal Encephalopathy

I covered it in this thread where it was included in his medical report.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6346428&mesg_id=6347004

[MonkeyFunk]

56. ugh

I really don't like diagnosing people from afar.

I didn't like it when Frist did it, I don't like it when ANYBODY does it.