None-Too-Swift Boat Capt. Contradicts War Records in Anti-Kerry Ads

[BurtWorm]

and contradicts his own wartime version of events. :eyes:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A13267-2004Aug18?language=printer

Records Counter A Critic Of Kerry
Fellow Skipper's Citation Refers To Enemy Fire

By Michael Dobbs
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, August 19, 2004; Page A01

Newly obtained military records of one of Sen. John F. Kerry's most vocal critics, who has accused the Democratic presidential candidate of lying about his wartime record to win medals, contradict his own version of events.

In newspaper interviews and a best-selling book, Larry Thurlow, who commanded a Navy Swift boat alongside Kerry in Vietnam, has strongly disputed Kerry's claim that the Massachusetts Democrat's boat came under fire during a mission in Viet Cong-controlled territory on March 13, 1969. Kerry won a Bronze Star for his actions that day.

But Thurlow's military records, portions of which were released yesterday to The Washington Post under the Freedom of Information Act, contain several references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire" directed at "all units" of the five-boat flotilla. Thurlow won his own Bronze Star that day, and the citation praises him for providing assistance to a damaged Swift boat "despite enemy bullets flying about him."

As one of five Swift boat skippers who led the raid up the Bay Hap River, Thurlow was a direct participant in the disputed events. He is also a leading member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a public advocacy group of Vietnam veterans dismayed by Kerry's subsequent antiwar activities, which has aired a controversial television advertisement attacking his war record.

In interviews and written reminiscences, Kerry has described how his 50-foot patrol boat came under fire from the banks of the Bay Hap after a mine explosion disabled another U.S. patrol boat. According to Kerry and members of his crew, the firing continued as an injured Kerry leaned over the bow of his ship to rescue a Special Forces officer who was blown overboard in a second explosion.

Last month, Thurlow swore in an affidavit that Kerry was "not under fire" when he fished Lt. James Rassmann out of the water. He described Kerry's Bronze Star citation, which says that all units involved came under "small arms and automatic weapons fire," as "totally fabricated."

[mzmolly]

1. HEH! Take that you Bush bastards!

:P

Hey Burt, what's shakin? :hi:

[BurtWorm]

5. Hey, mzmolly!

:hi:

I got back from vacation in Maine a few days ago. And a week in the hospital with a tube down my nose and throat. :evilfrown: It was a mysterious little mechanical intenstinal thing, but I'm about 100% now. No surgery required. I only answer becauise you asked. What's up with you?

[mzmolly]

9. So sorry about your health issue. I hope all is well now!

I'd love to visit Maine someday. I have a civil war ancestor from Hope ~ fought for the good guys o'course. :hi:

Not much up with me, unfortunately ...

Glad to see ya round !

[BurtWorm]

11. It's lovely.

Even when you're nursing stomach cramps. It was so nice and cool up there.

La lutta continua, e? :hi:

[rwenos]

2. You've Got the Wrong Major Premise . . .

You assume this jackass CARES about the truth, even the truth of his own records. The only thing he cares about is trashing Kerry.

IT'S ABOUT THE 'BIG LIE.' THEY'RE DOING IT AND NOBODY IS CALLING THEM ON IT.

[buycitgo]

8. yup yup yup

I said just about the same thing on another thread here on this article

it's really disgusting

Olberman, last night, repeated the LIE about Clinton's runway haircut last night

[King of New Orleans]

3. Yup, saw it in LBN

Larry Thurlow is outed for the lying scum he is.

I wonder what kind of punishment could be doled out to him. A court-martial? strip him of his Veteran benefits?

Really tar and feathering or making him Ambassador to Fallujah would be more appropriate

[jeff30997]

4. I wonder how much he was paid to contradict himself.

[mzmolly]

6. I was thinking the same thing

:(

[BurtWorm]

7. Probably a nice chunk. This is the kind of perjury

you can wind up in jail for doing: perjury for cash.

[buycitgo]

10. right! I asked my sister, a judge about the big deal WRT

an "affadavit"

she said it's witnessed by a notary, or other person with authority as officer of the court, and is signed under PAIN of PERJURY

so, if he actually DID sign an actual, notarized, or other sort of official affidavit, he's JUST as subject to PERJURY charges as WJC was, even though clinton wasn't technically guilty of it

is anyone persuing this?

dems should find out the bona fides of that affadavit and GO AFTER IT HIGH AND HARD

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. You Are 100% Right

The DNC or one of the 527s need to request an investigation...


Filing false affidavits are serious business...

[Democat]

19. If he signed such a document, he should be held accountable

The fact that he is a decorated war veteran should be taken into account at his sentencing.

Maybe he can just get probation rather than jail time?

[Justice]

12. Your Title is Better than the WPs!

[A_Possum]

13. So how are they responding to this at Free Republic?

Those of you brave souls who make midnight runs up the jungle canals there? ;) Any spot reports?

[buycitgo]

14. they probly don't care....the lie is out there....it's done its job

what more could they ask for?

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. "
- Sir Winston Churchill

[A_Possum]

15. I got up the nerve to go look...

They think it proves Kerry is a liar, cause "he wrote Thurlow's citation."

Bwahahaha.

It's so pathetic.

I really disagree that "the damage is done." The only thing that's happened is Bushies are ending up looking like lying creeps to anyone who isn't already part of the cult.

[buycitgo]

16. I hope hope hope you're right

I just have these visions of Kerry standing there, saluting, then, slowly losing about nine inches of height, becoming swarthy, and, finally donning a tanker's helmet!

know wudda mean, vern?

[oasis]

17. Creep Republic. I think you may be on to something.

:-)

[Cronus Protagonist]

20. the Sfiwtboat Veterans Lied Under Oath - they need to be impeached

Bush needs to let us know whos side is he on? Is he with us or against us? Will he stand with the liars or will he step into the light and renounce them for what they are?

SHOVE IT! - Drop Bush Not Bombs! - Hero Kerry AWOL Bush
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