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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:33 PM
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For The Office Of Vice President, I Offer You The Top 3 Choices
Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr. (born November 20, 1942) is the senior United States Senator from Wilmington, Delaware. He is a member of the Democratic Party, and is currently serving his sixth term. Biden has served for the sixth-longest period among current Senators (fourth among Democrats) and is Delaware's longest-serving Senator. He is the Chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations in the 110th Congress. Biden has served in that position in the past, and he has served as Chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_biden




Anthony Charles Zinni (born September 17, 1943) is a retired four-star general in the United States Marine Corps and a former Commander in Chief of U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM). In 2002, he was selected to be a special envoy for the United States to Israel and the Palestinian Authority. He has been a public critic of the Bush administration and did not support the decision to go to war in Iraq

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Zinni


Major General John Batiste (*ca. 1953<1>) is a retired officer of the United States Army.<2>

From March 2001 to June 2002 he worked with Paul Wolfowitz, and was involved in the very early planning stages of the Iraq war.<1> In spring 2002 Eric Shinseki chose Batiste to be commander of the First Infantry Division of the United States Army, which was deployed to Iraq in December 2003, during the war.<1>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Batiste

n a series of ads that may have received the most attention for the group, VoteVets.org presented three generals, two of whom were commanders on the ground in Iraq, who became critical of President Bush’s execution of the war. Those were Major General (ret.) John Batiste, Major General (ret.) Paul Eaton,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VoteVets.org










any of these three I'd say are quite possibly the best choices for the office of vice president.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:34 PM
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1. Robinette?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:38 PM
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6. That was a family name I believe from his mother's side.
The Biden's are a very tight knit family.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:36 PM
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2. No thanks on the second two.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:37 PM
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5. not Zinni?
thats like not offering a job to the most qualified candidates possible.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:39 PM
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7. Sure, if this country only cares about foreign policy
qualified also means having to focus on the economy as well, which is the most important issue. Thats why I like military men who have or are serving in some legislative fashion.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:36 PM
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3. Just pointed out Biden in another thread ...
He really is seeming more and more to me like the right choice.
Experienced but down to earth and a fighter to the end ...
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:37 PM
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4. I like Joe Biden of the three- he knows both foreign and domestic issues well.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:55 PM
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8. "Change" Goes OFF DA Tracks... With ANYONE other Than John Edwards! As If we Don't Have Any...
Problems other than those involving the military... Just because someone is an ex general does not make them a wiz in foreign policy anyhow... :think:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:58 PM
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9. Oy. Let's keep builidng that list.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:59 PM
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10. Biden. The most help on the most issues. No question. k&r
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:00 PM
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11. None of the above, Obama SHOULD NOT pick a VP for foreign policy credentials
The LAST thing he needs after 8 years of Bush and Cheney is the impression that he will run to his Vice President every time there is a crisis. Yes yes I know, it worked for Bush and Cheney in 2000 and Cheney added "gravitas" to the ticket. It also turned out to be a complete fucking disaster in office and people realize that.

I can already hear Senator Abe Simpson uttering the line "Senator Obama thinks he can rely on his running mate to handle foreign policy. That's not change we can believe in!"


Obama needs to demonstrate that he is capable of being commander-in-chief on his own. Leaning on his running mate to do it for him is a horrible idea.

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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:06 PM
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14. Then who would you recommend?
criticizing without putting anyone forward shows a lack of intellectual honesty.


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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:53 PM
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21. Schweitzer or Richardson
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:07 PM
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22. Richardson huhn?
ah yes, we wouldn't want those guys who have a background in foreign policy


irony at its finest.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:14 PM
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23. Richardson's foreign policy credentials will be overshadowed by the obvious
The MSM will talk about how he brings in the Hispanic vote and his time as UN Ambassador will get but a peep.

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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:08 AM
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24. Wow
so you're saying the best qualification for VP is who the media will say is pandering best for the hispanic vote?


some yardstick there.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:02 PM
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12. Zinni: "Iraq remains the most significant near-term threat to U.S. interests in the Persian Gulf
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 08:04 PM by LittleBlue
region. This is primarily due to its large conventional military force, pursuit of WMD,"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Zinni

Everyone is infinitely qualified until caught with their pants down in front of Congress.

No, thanks.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:06 PM
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13. selective reasoning
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Zinni#Opinions_on_2003_invasion_of_Iraq



not reading the entire article will do that to a person.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:17 PM
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15. Bullshit
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 08:18 PM by LittleBlue
Obfuscation at its worst. Make contradictory statements, one to a private group, the other in front of Congress when hordes are shilling for war. At the very least, he testified before Congress affirming Iraq had WMD's when it did not. This war is morally wrong and unnecessary, not just a strategic blunder.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:33 PM
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17. again
not reading the whole article ends up getting noobs like yourself humiliated

A special concern is the absence of a UN inspection and monitoring presence, which until December 1998 had been paramount to preventing large-scale resumption of prohibited weapons programs. A new disarmament regime must be reintroduced into Iraq as soon as possible and allowed to carry out the mandates dictated by the post-Gulf War UN resolutions."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Zinni#Testimony_before_Congress







zinni was calling for new inspections, not invasion.


you fail.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:22 AM
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25. lol noob, the previous sentence is a blatant falsehood
"Even if Baghdad reversed its course and surrendered all WMD capabilities, it retains the scientific, technical, and industrial infrastructure to replace agents and munitions within weeks or months."

Totally full of shit. The truth is that they had no capabilities, which is one reason why he will not get the job.

"Three of the seven recognized state-sponsors of terrorism are within this potentially volatile area..."

Iraq is a state sponsor of terror? You fail, Zinni fails, and I laugh at your puffing him in this fashion.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 03:50 AM
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26. yup, you're a noob
zinni was speaking of groups like hamas and hezbollah. iraq did fund terrorists. saddam provided money to family members of suicide bombers, its not like its a big secret. zinni was speaking in facts, unlike yourself. he wasn't calling for warfare, but you're lies and spin show you're unable to traffic in truth. hillary supporter?


again, zinni was speaking of bringing in weapons inspections and isolating saddam. not open warfare. he's been one of the most well recognized critics of the iraq war BEFORE it began


you fail


not just a regular fail

but





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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 03:53 AM
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27. another way you show epic failure
refusing to say who you would want as VP or who supported for president


which means two choices. hillary or kooch. either way, a bitter tampon looking for a a hole to call home.

either way




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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:32 PM
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16. None of the three. Thanks for offering.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:34 PM
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18. who would you recommend?
honestly?



if you say kucinich, however, you = fail.
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:08 PM
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20. Edwards makes a good showing in polls. If not him, then Mark Warner...
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 09:10 PM by papapi
...Warner appeals to moderate Dems and Independents. This is based purely on my personal preference. I don't think the VP is all that important in the election. I would object to ANY repug, independent, or Joe LIEberman - what ever he is besides an ass licker.

P.S. Warner show his strength in the economy of VA while he was Governor.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 03:55 AM
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28. mark warner would be good
if he wasn't the next senator from virginia ;-)


warner has republicans so scared in a former red state its amazing.


edwards will make a great DNC chairman if howard dean steps down.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:52 PM
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19. No Other Recommendations
funny because everyone whos offered nothing but criticism have yet to put forward any suggestions of their own.


which reinforces my statement on these three being the most qualified.
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