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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:23 PM
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"Finding common ground", I'd like to remind Hillary supporters that my candidate lost too.
Like the MAJORITY of DU members, my favorite candidate failed to win the nomination.
And not fairly- major newspapers were cropping him out of photos months ago,
while they were still referring to Hillary as "inevitable".

And I'm hardly alone- the MAJORITY of us DUers were rooting for someone who WASN'T Barack Obama
back when this primary started.

Edwards, Richardson, Gravel...do those names ring any bells?
And my memory ain't the best, but I kinda recall that there
were a few other candidates too...all of whom were good folks
who would have been decent Presidents. Any one of them would have been
a MAJOR improvement over the utterly CRIMINAL incompetence of the
last 7 years.
They all LOST. Every last one.


Hillary doesn't have any exclusive copyright on "losing to Barack Obama";
-ALL- of our preferred candidates lost to Barack Obama.

And that's something we would all do well to REMEMBER now that the primary is OVER,
and now that the contest that truly HOLDS THE FUTURE OF OUR PLANET is currently underway.

I'm just sayin'. :shrug:

Richard





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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:25 PM
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1. You speak truth, Richard
:thumbsup:

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:08 PM
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17. Hiya, Super-DUer! How ya been?
Long time no ogle! :evilgrin:


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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:27 PM
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2. Since almost every Hillary supporter on this forum is supporting Obama now....
Who is it that you are talking to? Hillary was not my first choice either.

This constant scolding attitude toward Hillary supporters, almost all of whom are now supporting Obama, is getting old very quickly. In fact, it is getting obnoxious and annoying.

Perhaps if they were left alone for 5 minutes they too would begin to support Obama.

I think you mean well, but can't you see that these posts aren't helping?
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:08 PM
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11. Two more days, my friend,
Only 2 more days, and maybe, just maybe, bashing ANY Democrat just for the sake of bashing will once again not be tolerated.

Legitimate criticism is always allowed here, and always has been. We are, after all, Democrats. I am sure that legitimate constructive criticism of OUR nominee will continue to be allowed. It is, after all, CONSTRUCTIVE.

But you are absolutely correct in your observations. There is a HUGE difference in criticism and what has been going on here.

I don't believe for a MINUTE that any more that a tiny fraction of Clinton supporters here are not already on board the Obama wagon. Yes, I still have a Hillary avatar, and will continue to show my pride in having supported her for as long as I am allowed. That doesn't mean I do not now support Senator Obama.

I can't wait until Wednesday.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:48 PM
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27. The OP in no way bashed Senator Clinton. n/t
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:43 PM
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16. See #8
*sigh*
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:35 PM
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25. Save your sighs for November. Thanks for kicking my thread. nm
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:37 PM
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31. Um, I'm an Obama supporter who was pointing out that
there was a reason you posted this, and post #8 proved it.

I need to put my "O" back in my sig apparently. :P
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 06:01 PM
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32. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:15 PM
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33. What in blazes are you talking about?
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 07:22 PM by Yael
I am defending you, you ass.

I think I posted in the lounge like 3 times since I have been here and the only thread I opened was to ask a question about DVD vs BluRay and it sunk like a stone.

You need to get over yourself with this hatred, pal.

Oh -- and if you can show me where I said I am "proud" of voting for Bush, I would appreciate that. I am on the record here as an ex-Republican who was lied to, is pissed off and went from right-of-right to left-of-left without even considering center. I have posted that more times than I can count.

I think you may be thinking of someone else.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:29 PM
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41. Sadly, no one ever seems to know. nm
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:33 PM
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35. Actually, I think the poster was trying to show empathy
I'll admit it didn't come over that way, but I parsed it that way. It's said that the general election is for voting but the primary is for falling in love. Losing one's love hurts like hell for me and if I had posted this OP I would have said it that way. Ouch, I know how bad this hurts. It's commiseration. Senator Clinton herself took the healing process miles further than it would otherwise be with her stellar speech of a few days ago.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #35
44. It sure didnt come across that way
But perhaps you are right.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:29 PM
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3. is this yet another post scolding DU Hillary supporters because
her "supporters" on other discussion boards (plus news articles) are claiming they plan to vote for McCain? I have been reading DU lots since Hillary conceded this saturday and I haven't really seen any Hillary supporters HERE claim they weren't going to vote for Obama YET I keep seeing thread after thread scolding her DU supporters for this.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:42 PM
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6. Nope- not scolding any REAL Hillary supporters. More like asking them to hold hands.
I don't put much stock in the reports you mention, because we all know
that many of those folks were never Democrats to begin with.
It's not exactly a secret that a lot of cowardly little Repubs have been
trolling the Internets pretending to be Hillary fans.

This post was NOT aimed at those frothing, over-the-top loons who
PRETENDED to be Hillary Clinton supporters in an effort to disrupt
the Democratic Party nomination cycle.


I wrote this post with the REAL Hillary supporters in mind. I was thinking
of the ones I know in real life when I wrote it, so as to be as considerate
as possible to all the others who would see it when I posted it on DU.

Richard
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:39 PM
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4. Give us a break, Richard
I think most DUers probably had a "first choice" other than Obama and Clinton. I don't think you can compare HRC's primary run to any other candidates that dropped out early on. We're talking about an extremely close win by Obama, and HRC supporters have every right to feel a bit numb.

I too have not seen any indication here on DU that HRC supporters are not going to support Obama. No need to nudge or scold. Leave it alone.

Thank you.

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:00 PM
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7. I'm not tryin to nudge or scold. I'm at the edge of the Big Tent offering free hugs.
Just looking around GD/P, there's still a lot of stuff that's
pushing the bullshit RW propaganda that Hillary's supporters
are some sort of monolithic bloc that won't support the Nominee(D).

I know that's not true, but do THEY know that I know that?
I don't know that they do, so I figured I better go ahead and say it.

The MSM is sure as hell doing its darndest to tell them different,
to make them feel isolated and outcast, to play upon their emotions
and stoke the fires of hatred and discontent.

And we all know it isn't like that, but how often do we step up and SAY IT?

Not often enough, IMHO.
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:40 PM
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5. Methinks you are preaching to the converted. Don't pay attention to the freepers and trolls.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:59 PM
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28. I'm not preaching. I'm just saying the trollls get too much airtime, and we need to drown them out.
Look around: Troll after troll is still spouting divisive nonsense.
On the newscasts, in the papers, even here at DU, the folks claiming
to be Clinton Supporters are spouting crap DESIGNED to divide and disrupt
the WAVE of folks who currently plan to vote against McSame.

Us REAL Democrats need to speak up and make it clear that we all KNOW
they don't speak for Hillary's supporters, like they pretend they do.

I know some Hillary supporters in real life- they don't take their orders
from Rush Limbaugh or "Hillaryis44" like the fucking FauxHill TROLLS do, and I can
tell the difference just like everyone else can.

Silence assumes CONSENT. Speak out or roll over.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:00 PM
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8. Get back to me when your candidate gets 18 million votes and leads pop vote and loses to sexism/hate
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:06 PM
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10. ...
:thumbsup:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:32 PM
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23. ...
:thumbsdown:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:13 PM
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12. You are a PERFECT example of why I felt the need to start this thread. Thank you so very much.
REAL Hillary Clinton supporters need to understand that us Democrats
know the difference between them and PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

Get back to me Wednesday after 12:00 noon, you transparent dittohead.



Until then, here's something to keep you mesmerised:


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:14 PM
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18. You should get back to you when your candidate gets 18 million votes
leads in the pop vote and loses to sexism/hate.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:32 PM
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24. Two lies in one sentence
Impressive.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #24
30. Yup.
:eyes:
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:41 PM
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36. Um, about that popular vote thing...
Did you miss the memo, the meeting, the truth?

Dog eat your homework?

Read much?

There simply is no popular vote that has any bearing on winning or losing. Or fairness. Or reality.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:50 PM
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38. up your dose of haldol, you're just plain deluded
the sheer stupidity of some is absolutely stunning. and the fake "victim" of "sexism/hate" thing was old a few weeks ago. Can't you come up with anything new, original, insightful, substantial? Well, apparently not unless Limpballs fills in the blanks for you. You and the rest of the dittoheads are like sponges of stupidity. Your minds are like vast, blank, empty spaces with a few key phrases and words rattling around between your ears. Be careful when you sneeze, you lose a few brain cells every time, and in your case, "a few" is proportionately a lot.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:04 PM
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9. Did your candidate win almost 18 million votes?
Did your candidate lose after the super delegates nominated the other guy?

So, I don't care how many other candidates lost, none of them came even remotely close to winning the nomination.
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RoseMead Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. So in other words
screw *your feelings* about *your candidate* because it's all about us? Lovely.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:17 PM
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14. Pointless crap like that is why I felt the need to start this thread. Thanks for the validation.
nm
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:19 PM
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20. Delete. This needs to stop.
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 04:20 PM by sfexpat2000
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:36 PM
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26. If there had been no superdelegates, Hillary would have lost earlier.
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 04:37 PM by JVS
They actually propped her up for the last few days.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:21 PM
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34. My candidate didn't start out with a huge SD lead in the first place.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:58 PM
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40. your little publicity monger came in third in Iowa, but the 2nd-place person got no mentiona at all
If Edwards had had Hillary's unfair advantage of intense media attention and propulsion, he would have beat her also. That was all she was, a myth created by the media. Talk about a vast empty pantsuit. And she still couldn't win. She came across as a pathetic, desperate CRY BABY, like her brain-addled dittohead "supporters" who grunt their clueless phrases like brainless puppets.

And you are so absolutely clueless that you think the "super delegates nominated the other guy"? Join your friend above, dittohead, in being careful when you sneeze. You can't afford to lose any brain cells. Like rats running off a sinking ship, the superdelegates fled from the LOSER, HRC. She had it all, and she fucking blew it. She couldn't even manage her own campaign's funds, how the fuck would she manage the country's? She lost more states, more pledged delegates, AND more "popular votes" (because you, like she, are a cheat and a liar and counting imaginary votes and NOT counting caucus states)]

suck it up, LOSER.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:19 PM
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47. Empty pantsuit???
You must referring to your inexperienced candidate, he who has been propelled by the media and his adoring fans. LOL!!!

Empty suit indeed..........
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:25 PM
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48. He is sooooooo overrated.
I've never seen anything like it in my life.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:06 PM
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53. They'll be crushed if he manages to win
and he then fails to deliver all he promised. Yep, overrated is the word. All fluff and very little substance. In every speech he pounds the same thing: change, change, change, etc.

:eyes:
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 04:15 AM
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54. he is NOT a Bush or a Clinton, so yes, that is called change
I know such an obvious fact is impossible for a Teddy Ruxpin preprogrammed talking robot to understand, but that is what it boils down to. I also know you DLC greed-heads would like to keep things just the way they are, first with a meaningless figurehead at the helm, then with a lot of corporate insiders buying the laws they want, starting wars to install "democracy" wherever they want to set up a colony, ensuring government by backroom deal, plundering the globe without conscience or concern, putting the corporate bottom line ahead of people's lives and livelihoods, making sure fat-ass CEOs make obscene profits on the backs of virtual slave laborers, etc. etc. Have you gotten the message yet that that Bush-Clinton neocon system is about to become obsolete?

As far as your dumbass assertion that Obama is "all fluff and very little substance," thanks for the opportunity to once again make sure that as many as possible are exposed to this listing of his accomplishments. Please feel free to likewise list the accomplishments of the one who voted for IWR, kissed George Bush's ass after 9/11 like a little conformist cow, voted for Kyl/Lieberman, and cackled nervously while asking "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" when asked about conflict of interest regarding a death squad fascist dictator in South America (apparently one of her buds). I am especially interested in bold legislation introduced by the entitlement queen that benefited AMERICANS and not INDIAN CEOs as the Senator from Punjab.

---------------

So, anyway, about that "very little substance" myth) thanks to FrenchieCat for her efforts in bringing this together) (original post, with text boxes, fonts, etc.: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6303258 ) :

Do you know what Barack Obama has accomplished
in the policy area in his 20 years in public life?

Barack Obama has made many proposals as to what he will do to "CHANGE" our government.
But what has he actually done?

here is some of what Obama has DONE--
Judge Him by His Laws

By Charles Peters
Friday, January 4, 2008; A21

...Since most of Obama's legislation was enacted in Illinois, most of the evidence is found there -- and it has been largely ignored by the media in a kind of Washington snobbery that assumes state legislatures are not to be taken seriously. <>

Consider a bill into which Obama clearly put his heart and soul. The problem he wanted to address was that too many confessions, rather than being voluntary, were coerced -- by beating the daylights out of the accused.

Obama proposed requiring that interrogations and confessions be videotaped.
This seemed likely to stop the beatings, but the bill itself aroused immediate opposition. There were Republicans who were automatically tough on crime and Democrats who feared being thought soft on crime. There were death penalty abolitionists, some of whom worried that Obama's bill, by preventing the execution of innocents, would deprive them of their best argument. Vigorous opposition came from the police, too many of whom had become accustomed to using muscle to "solve" crimes. And the incoming governor, Rod Blagojevich, announced that he was against it.
Obama had his work cut out for him.
<>
The police tried to limit the videotaping to confessions, but Obama, knowing that the beatings were most likely to occur during questioning, fought -- successfully -- to keep interrogations included in the required videotaping.

Then he talked Blagojevich into signing the bill, making Illinois the first state to require such videotaping.
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Obama noted that he sponsored successful death-penalty-reform legislation as a lawmaker in Springfield. That legislation, among other things, required the videotaping of homicide interrogations, and he promised to advocate for similar reforms on a national scale.

He backed federal legislation that would ban citizens from carrying weapons, except for law enforcement. He cited Texas as an example of a place where a law allowing people to carry weapons has "malfunctioned" because hundreds of people granted licenses had prior convictions.

said mandatory sentencing laws should be overturned to give judges more discretion and provide more equitable treatment for minorities.
http://www.icadp.org/page236.html
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Obama cites role in death penalty reform
Barack Obama can honestly claim to have made a difference on a matter of life and death.

While an Illinois state senator, Obama was key in getting the state's notorious death penalty laws changed, including a requirement that in most cases police interrogations involving capital crimes must be recorded.

The changes enacted in 2003 reformed a system that had sent 13 people to death row, only to have them released because they were later determine to be innocent or had been convicted using improper methods.

"Without Barack's energy, imagination and commitment I do not believe the very substantial and meaningful reforms that became law in Illinois would have taken place," said author Scott Turow, a member of the state commission that recommended many of the changes.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/12/obama.death.pena... /


Obama didn't stop there. He played a major role in passing many other bills, including the state's first earned-income tax credit to help the working poor

and the first ethics and campaign finance law in 25 years (a law a Post story said made Illinois "one of the best in the nation on campaign finance disclosure").

Obama's commitment to ethics continued in the U.S. Senate, where he co-authored the new lobbying reform law that, among its hard-to-sell provisions, requires lawmakers to disclose the names of lobbyists who "bundle" contributions for them.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
Ethics and Lobbying Reform

Throughout his political career, Barack Obama has been a leader in fighting for open and honest government. During his first year as an Illinois State Senator, he helped lead the fight to pass Illinois' first ethics reform bill in 25 years. As a U.S. Senator, he has spearheaded the effort to clean up Washington in the wake of the Jack Abramoff scandal.

Senator Obama is one of the authors of the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act (S. 2180). The bill would lengthen the cooling off period to two years for lawmakers and staff who seek to become lobbyists, and it would require immediate disclosure as soon as any job negotiations begin.

The bill would open conference committee meetings to the public and require that all bills be posted on the Internet for 24 hours before they can be voted on by the Senate. Finally, the bill would end all lobbyist-funded gifts, meals, and travel and strengthen the Senate office that monitors lobbyist disclosure forms.

In addition, Senator Obama has sponsored three other ethics-related bills:

The Congressional Ethics Enforcement Commission Act (S. 2259)
The bill creates an outside ethics commission to receive complaints from the public on alleged ethics violations by members of Congress, staff, and lobbyists. The commission would have the authority to investigate complaints and present public findings of fact about possible violations to the House and Senate Ethics Committee and Justice Department. By taking the initial fact finding out of the hands of members of Congress, who are often reluctant to investigate their colleagues, the bill ensures prompt and fair disposition of public complaints.

To avoid manipulation of the commission for political purposes, any person filing a complaint that they knew to be false would be subject to a fine and/or imprisonment. No complaints could be filed against a member of Congress for 30 days before a primary election and 60 days before a general election.

The bill has been widely endorsed by reform groups. According to Common Cause, "this legislation would do more to reform ethics and lobbying than any other piece of legislation introduced thus far because it goes to the heart of the problem: enforcement."

Public Citizen praised Senator Obama "for having the courage to challenge the business-as-usual environment on Capitol Hill and introduce far-reaching legislation." Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington stated: "This is the first bill that deals seriously with the lack of oversight and enforcement in the existing congressional ethics process. . . . This bill will help restore Americans' confidence in the integrity of Congress.

The Transparency and Integrity in Earmarks Act (S. 2261)

The bill sheds light on the almost 16,000 earmarks that were included in spending bills in 2005. Under the bill, all earmarks, including the name of the requestor and a justification for the earmark, would have to be disclosed 72 hours before they could be considered by the full Senate. Senators would be prohibited from advocating for an earmark if they have a financial interest in the project or earmark recipient. And, earmark recipients would have to disclose to an Office of Public Integrity the amount that they have spent on registered lobbyists and the names of those lobbyists.


The Curtailing Lobbyist Effectiveness through Advance Notification, Updates, and Posting Act (The CLEAN UP Act)
(S. 2179)

The bill aimed to improve public access to information about all legislation, including conference reports and appropriations legislation, in particular after hurried, end-of-session negotiations. Conference committee meetings and deliberations would have to be open to the public or televised, and conference reports would have to identify changes made to the bill from the House and Senate versions. Finally, no bill could be considered by the full Senate unless the measure has been made available to all Senators and the general public on the Internet for at least 72 hours.

PLUS HE WAS KEY IN THE FOLLOWING......

Destroying Surplus and Unguarded Conventional Weapons

After visiting weapons stockpiles in Russia, Ukraine and Azerbaijan, Senators Lugar and Obama introduced S. 2566, which would expand the cooperative threat reduction concept to conventional weapons.


cosponsored Dru's Law (S. 792)

which created a nationwide sex offender database and requires greater monitoring of sex offenders upon their release from prison. The bill passed the Senate on July 28, 2005.

He also cosponsored the Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act. This bill increases the penalties for sex crimes against children under the age of 12, and creates a national Internet site known as the National Sex Offender Public Registry. The bill will also provide grants to local law enforcement to assist in preventing and investigating sex crimes against minors.


Cosponsored the extension of Violence Against Women Act
(S. 1197)
which passed the Senate on October 4, 2005, and was signed into law. The Act provides increased funds to law enforcement to combat violence against women. It also establishes a sexual assault services program and provides grants for education programs to prevent domestic violence and encourage reporting of abuses.


The Senate Immigration Bill

Senator Obama played a key role in the crafting of the immigration reform bill that the Senate passed in May 2006. The bill, which President Bush supports, would provide more funds and technology for border security and prevent employers from skirting our laws by hiring illegal immigrants. The bill also would provide immigrants who are now contributing and responsible members of society an opportunity to remain in the country and earn citizenship. But not all illegal immigrants would be guaranteed the right to remain in the U.S. under this proposal; they would first have to pay a substantial fine and back taxes, learn English, satisfy a work requirement, and pass a criminal background check.

Senator Obama offered three amendments that were included in the Senate bill. The first amendment strengthens the requirement that a job be offered at a prevailing wage to American workers before it is offered to a guestworker. The second amendment makes it simple, but mandatory, for employers to verify that their employees are legally eligible to work in the United States. And the third amendment authorizes $3 million a year for the FBI to improve the speed and accuracy of the background checks required for immigrants seeking to become citizens.


Amendment to the Safe Drinking Water Act

which passed the EPW Committee on July 20, 2005. The Obama amendment provides $37.5 million over the next five years to protect the country's drinking water from a terrorist attack. It also instructs Environmental Protection Agency and the Centers for Disease Control to develop the tools needed by drinking water systems to detect and respond to the introduction of biological, chemical, and radiological contaminants by terrorists.


Greater Funding for Veterans Health Care

As early as February 2005, Senator Obama warned of a shortfall in the VA budget. Four months later, the VA reported that in fact it had more than a $1 billion shortfall. Senator Obama cosponsored a bill that led to a $1.5 billion increase in veterans' medical care. During the debate on the Fiscal Year 2007 budget, Senator Obama cosponsored measures that would have provided additional funding increases for veterans.

In September 2006, Senator Obama introduced the Lane Evans Veterans Health and Benefits Improvement Act (S. 3988) to improve the VA’s planning process to avoid budget shortfalls in the future. The bill requires the VA and the Department of Defense to work together and share data so that we know precisely how many troops will be returning home and entering the VA system.


Homeless Veterans

Every year, 400,000 veterans across the country, including an estimated 38,000 in Chicago, spend some time living on the streets. Senator Obama has been a leader in fighting homelessness among veterans. He authored the Sheltering All Veterans Everywhere Act (SAVE Act) (S. 1180) to strengthen and expand federal homeless veteran programs that serve over 100,000 homeless veterans annually. During the debate on the Fiscal Year 2007 budget, Senator Obama passed an amendment to increase funding for homeless veterans programs by $40 million. These funds would benefit programs that provide food, clothing, mental health and substance abuse counseling, and employment and housing assistance to homeless veterans.

In June 2006, Senator Obama introduced the Homes for Heroes Act (S. 3475), which would expand access to long-term affordable housing for homeless veterans by setting aside $225 million to purchase, build or rehabilitate homes and apartments for veterans. The legislation would also greatly expand existing veterans rental assistance programs and create a new office within the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) to coordinate services to homeless veterans.

Food for Recovering Soldiers

Senator Obama introduced an amendment that became law providing food services to wounded veterans receiving physical therapy or rehabilitation services at military hospitals. Previously, service members receiving physical therapy or rehabilitation services in a medical hospital for more than 90 days were required to pay for their meals.

Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and TBI
Senator Obama fought a VA proposal that would have required a reexamination of all PTSD cases in which full benefits were granted. He and Senator Durbin passed an amendment that has become law preventing the VA from conducting a review of cases, without first providing Congress with a complete report regarding the implementation of such review. In November 2005, the VA announced that it was abandoning its planned review.

Senator Obama passed an amendment to ensure that all service members returning from Iraq are properly screened for Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI). TBI is being called the signature injury of the Iraq war. The blast from improvised explosive devices can jar the brain, causing bruising or permanent damage. Concussions can have huge health effects including slowed thinking, headaches, memory loss, sleep disturbance, attention and concentration deficits, and irritability.

Easing the Transition to the VA Senator Obama passed an amendment that became law requiring the Department of Defense (DOD) to report to Congress on the delayed development of an electronic medical records system compatible with the VA's electronic medical records system. DOD's delay in developing such a system has created obstacles for service members transitioning into the VA health care system.

In September 2006, Senator Obama introduced the Lane Evans Veterans Health and Benefits Improvement Act (S. 3988) which would help veterans transition from the DOD health system to the VA system by extending the window in which new veterans can get mental health care from two years to five years. The Lane Evans bill also would improve transition services for members of the National Guard and Reserves.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/20/201332/807/...

Senate Passes Kerry-Obama Legislation to Close KBR Tax Loophole, Provide Tax Relief for Troops

Thursday, May 22, 2008
WASHINGTON, D.C. - Senators John Kerry and Barack Obama today announced that the Senate passed the Heroes Earnings Assistance and Relief Tax Act of 2008 (The "HEART Act"). The Act would provide tax relief to the men and women in our nation's armed services and others volunteering service on behalf of the United States, including Peace Corps volunteers and AmeriCorps volunteers - and is paid for by the Kerry-Obama tax reform that closed the tax loophole that allowed defense contractor KBR to avoid paying its fair share of taxes. The Act passed the House yesterday and now goes to the President for his signature.

Kerry and Obama were instrumental in ensuring that the funds that will be used to pay for these benefits came from defense contractors that were not paying their fair share of taxes. In March, they introduced the Fair Share Act of 2008 to close the loophole that had allowed KBR to fleece the American taxpayer by almost $100 million a year. It was discovered that KBR and another defense contractor have avoided paying their fair share of Social Security and Medicare taxes by creating shell companies in the Cayman Islands. The Fair Share Act of 2008 will end the practice of U.S. government contractors setting up sham companies in foreign jurisdictions to avoid payroll taxes.
http://obama.senate.gov/press/080522-senate_passes_k /


Global Poverty Act of 2007

WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE), and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) and Congressman Adam Smith (D-WA) today hailed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's passage of the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs. This legislation was introduced in December. Smith and Congressman Spencer Bachus (R-AL) sponsored the House version of the bill (H.R. 1302), which passed the House last September.
http://obama.senate.gov /

Legislation would aim to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015

Barack Obama’s record on rebuilding after Hurricane Katrina.

Sept. 2, 2005: Obama holds press conference urging Illinoisans to contribute to the Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.

Sept. 5, 2005: Obama goes to Houston to visit evacuees with Presidents Clinton and Bush.

Sept. 7, 2005: Obama introduces bill to create a national emergency family locator system

Sept. 8, 2005: Obama introduces bill to create a National Emergency Volunteers Corps.

Sept. 8, 2005: Obama co-sponsors the Katrina Emergency Relief Act of 2005 introduced by Senator Harry Reid

Sept. 8, 2005: Obama co-sponsors the Hurricane Katrina Bankruptcy Relief and Community Protection Act of 2005 introduced by Senator Russ Feingold

Sept. 12, 2005: Obama introduces legislation requiring states to create an emergency evacuation plan for society’s most vulnerable

Sept. 15, 2005: Obama issues public response to President Bush’s speech about Gulf Coast rebuilding.

Sept. 21, 2005: Obama co-sponsors bill to establish a Katrina commission to investigate response to the disaster introduced by Hillary Clinton

Sept. 21, 2005: Obama appears on NPR to discuss the role of poverty in Hurricane Katrina.

Sept. 22, 2005: Obama and Coburn’s Hurricane Katrina financial oversight bill unanimously passes Senate committee.

Sept. 22, 2005: Obama’s amendment requiring evacuation plans unanimously passes Senate committee.

Sept. 28, 2005: Obama and Coburn issue statement about the need for a Chief Financial Officer to oversee the financial mismanagement and suspicious contracts occurring in the reconstruction process

Sept. 29, 2005: Obama and Coburn investigate possible FEMA refusal of free cruise ship offer

Oct. 6, 2005: Obama and Coburn issue statement on FEMA Decision to re-bid Katrina contracts

Oct. 6, 2005: Obama co-sponsors Gulf Coast Infrastructure Redevelopment and Recovery Act of 2005.

Oct. 21, 2005: Obama releases statement decrying the extension of FEMA director, Michael “Brownie” Brown’s contract. Obama calls Brown’s contract extension, “unconscionable.”

Nov. 17, 2005: Obama and Coburn introduce legislation asking FEMA to immediately re-bid all Katrina reconstruction contracts.

Feb. 1, 2006: Obama gives Senate floor speech on his legislation to help children affected by Hurricane Katrina

Feb. 2, 2006: Obama introduces legislation to help low-income children affected by Hurricane Katrina

Feb. 23, 2006: Obama issues statement responding to a White House report on Hurricane Katrina. Obama noted that the top two recommendations that the report had for the federal government were initiatives he had been working on since immediately after the storm hit. Obama called the administration’s response “delinquent.”

May 2, 2006: Obama gives speech about no-bid contracts in Hurricane Katrina reconstruction

May 4, 2006: Obama’s legislation to end no-bid contracts for Hurricane Katrina reconstruction passed the Senate.

June 15, 2006: Obama and Coburn announce legislation to require amendment to create competitive bidding for Hurricane Katrina reconstruction for federal contracts over $500,000. Although it passed previously, the language was stripped in conference.

June 15, 2006: Obama releases podcast about his pending Katrina reconstruction legislation in the Senate.

June 16, 2006: Obama and Coburn get no-bid Hurricane Katrina reconstruction amendment into Department of Defense authorization bill.

July 14, 2006: Obama and Coburn’s legislation to end abuse of no-bid contracts passes senate as amendment to Department of Defense authorization bill.

August 11, 2006: Obama visits Xavier University in New Orleans to give Commencement address

August 14, 2006: Obama and Coburn ask FEMA to address ballooning no-bid contracts for Gulf Coast reconstruction

Sept. 29, 2006: Obama and Coburn legislation to prevent abuse of no-bid contracts in the wake of disaster passes Senate to be sent to President’s desk to become law.

Feb. 2007-Present: As Obama begins his Presidential campaign he references Katrina as a part of his stump speech as he travels around the country in his familiar line, “That we are not a country which preaches compassion and justice to others while we allow bodies to float down the streets of a major American city. That is not who we are.”

June 20, 2007: Obama co-sponsors Gulf Coast Housing Recovery Act of 2007 introduced by Senator Chris Dodd.

July 27, 2007: Obama and colleagues get a measure in the Homeland Security bill that will
investigate FEMA trailers that may contain the toxic chemical, formaldehyde.

Aug. 26, 2007: Obama outlines a detailed Hurricane Katrina recovery plan.

December 18, 2007: Obama calls on President Bush to protect affordable housing in New Orleans

February 16, 2008: Obama releases statement on toxic Gulf Coast trailers
http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/when... /


Will OBAMA uphold the constitution?

Obama Says Gitmo Facility Should Close

The Democratic presidential hopeful pledged to work side-by-side with the rest of the world on issues like nuclear proliferation, poverty, economic development in Latin America and the violence in Darfur.

"While we're at it," he said, "we're going to close Guantanamo. And we're going to restore habeas corpus. ... We're going to lead by example _ by not just word but by deed. That's our vision for the future."

Habeas corpus is a tenet of the Constitution that protects people from unlawful imprisonment
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

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Human Rights Should Be Bigger than Politics

Senator Barack Obama delivered this speech on the floor of the US Senate, in reaction to Senate passage of S. 3930, Military Commissions Act of 2006, which approved US torture of detainees and strips Constitutional rights away from detainees.
Senator Obama decries the placement of politics over human rights, and condemns S. 3930. He states, "This is not how a serious Administration would approach the problem of terrorism."
http://usliberals.about.com/od/extraordinaryspeeches/a/...

excerpts from Obama's statement...

In the five years that the President's system of military tribunals has existed, not one terrorist has been tried. Not one has been convicted. And in the end, the Supreme Court of the United found the whole thing unconstitutional, which is why we're here today.

We could have fixed all of this in a way that allows us to detain and interrogate and try suspected terrorists while still protecting the accidentally accused from spending their lives locked away in Guantanamo Bay. Easily. This was not an either-or question.

Instead of allowing this President - or any President - to decide what does and does not constitute torture, we could have left the definition up to our own laws and to the Geneva Conventions, as we would have if we passed the bill that the Armed Services committee originally offered.

Instead of detainees arriving at Guantanamo and facing a Combatant Status Review Tribunal that allows them no real chance to prove their innocence with evidence or a lawyer, we could have developed a real military system of justice that would sort out the suspected terrorists from the accidentally accused.

And instead of not just suspending, but eliminating, the right of habeas corpus - the seven century-old right of individuals to challenge the terms of their own detention, we could have given the accused one chance - one single chance - to ask the government why they are being held and what they are being charged with.
http://usliberals.about.com/od/extraordinaryspeeches/a/...


http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9845595-7.html
For one thing, under an Obama presidency, Americans will be able to leave behind the era of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and "wiretaps without warrants," he said. (He was referring to the lingering legal fallout over reports that the National Security Agency scooped up Americans' phone and Internet activities without court orders, ostensibly to monitor terrorist plots, in the years after the September 11 attacks.)

It's hardly a new stance for Obama, who has made similar statements in previous campaign speeches, but mention of the issue in a stump speech, alongside more frequently discussed topics like Iraq and education, may give some clue to his priorities.

STRONG RECORD ON ELECTION RIGHTS AND ELECTION REFORM

In our own Technology Voters' Guide, when asked whether he supports shielding telecommunications and Internet companies from lawsuits accusing them of illegal spying, Obama gave us a one-word response: "No."

Including this:
In 1992, was the Director of Illinois Project VOTE, which registered approximately 150,000 mostly Democratic voters in Chicago's Cook County
Opposes the death penalty and school vouchers
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.as...

I believe that with Barack Obama as President, we will get meaningful Election reforms passed through the Congress, and it is my opinion that this issue is just if not more important than the rest of the issues being offered during this election.

Barack as a Constitutional Law Expert and an advocate for Civil Rights is the leader that will get this done for us.

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OBAMA'S US SENATE RECORD:

S.1975 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 11/8/2005) Cosponsors (4)
Committees: Senate Rules and Administration
Latest Major Action: 11/8/2005 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.

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S.4102 : A bill to amend the Communications Act of 1934 to prohibit the use of telecommunications devices for the purposes of preventing or obstructing the broadcast or exchange of election-related information.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 12/7/2006) Cosponsors (None) Committees: Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation
Latest Major Action: 12/7/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.
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S.4069 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 11/16/2006) Cosponsors (4)
Committees: Senate Rules and Administration
Latest Major Action: 11/16/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.
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Obama's Rewards

$13,000 a year, plus $2,000 for a car--a beat-up blue Honda Civic, which Obama drove for the next three years organizing more than twenty congregations to change their neighborhoods.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070416/moberg



Obama's organizing history may give few clues about what policies he would pursue as President, but Obama the presidential candidate still shows his roots--a faith in ordinary citizens, a quest for common ground and a pragmatic inclination toward defining issues in winnable ways.

Even when Obama was an organizer, Augustine-Herron told him he would be the nation's first black President. Now the Rev. Alvin Love, whom Obama recruited to DCP, looks at his candidacy and says, "Everything I see reflects that community organizing experience. I see the consensus-building, his connection to people and listening to their needs and trying to find common ground. I think at his heart Barack is a community organizer. I think what he's doing now is that. It's just a larger community to be organized."
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070416/moberg


What Obama has done in the past, not including what he has done thus far during the primaries; bringing new voters into the frey.

Vote of Confidence
A huge black turnout in November 1992 altered Chicago's electoral landscape—and raised a new political star: a 31-year-old lawyer named Barack Obama.

In the final, climactic buildup to November's general election, with George Bush gaining ground on Bill Clinton in Illinois and the once-unstoppable campaign of senatorial candidate Carol Moseley Braun embroiled in allegations about her mother's Medicare liability, one of the most important local stories managed to go virtually unreported: The number of new voter registrations before the election hit an all-time high. And the majority of those new voters were black. More than 150,000 new African-American voters were added to the city's rolls. In fact, for the first time in Chicago's history-including the heyday of Harold Washington-voter registrations in the 19 predominantly black wards outnumbered those in the city's 19 predominantly white ethnic wards, 676,000 to 526,000.

None of this, of course, was accidental. The most effective minority voter registration drive in memory was the result of careful handiwork by Project Vote!, the local chapter of a not-for-profit national organization.

"It was the most efficient campaign I have seen in my 20 years in politics," says Sam Burrell, alderman of the West Side's 29th Ward and a veteran of many registration drives.

At the head of this effort was a little-known 31-year-old African-American lawyer, community organizer, and writer: Barack Obama.

To understand the full implications of Obama's effort, you first need to understand how voter registration often has worked in Chicago. The Regular Democratic Party spearheaded most drives, doing so using one primary motivator: money. The party would offer bounties to registrars for every new voter they signed up (typically a dollar per registration).

The campaigns did produce new voters. "But bounty systems don't really promote participation," says David Orr, the Cook County clerk, whose office is responsible for voter registration efforts in the Cook County suburbs. "When the money dries up, the voters drop out." Nor did the Democratic Party always vigorously push registration among minorities, Orr says. "It's not that they discouraged it. They just never worked hard to ensure it would happen."
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/January-1993...

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Project Vote is the voter-mobilization arm of ACORN. It is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization whose professed purpose is to carry out "non-partisan" voter registration drives; to counsel voters on their rights; and to litigate on behalf of voting rights -- focusing on the rights of the poor and the "disenfranchised."

Project Vote’s major program areas include the following:

Voter Participation Program: “, Project Vote has helped more than 4 million Americans in low-income and minority neighborhoods register to vote, including 1.1 million in 2003-04. In the same period, Project Vote reached more than 2.3 million low-income and minority voters to educate them about the importance of voting. Our methodology is based on face-to-face contact between voters and trusted community messengers, generally a representative of a local community organization.”



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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:33 AM
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60. You do know that most of the legislation that you talk about are other people's work?
You do know that all those bills, 26 of them, are from his last year in office? Do you also know that Emil Jones Jr. gave him many of those bills to sign even though other senators had worked on them?

Obama's greatest achievement so far has been to ingratiate himself to those who could help him, such as Jones. He's smart and talented, but not ready to be president at this point in time.

I don't see in him any difference from any other South Side Chicago politician. You should check what he did to get into the state senate in the first place.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:17 AM
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56. That is telling it like it is!
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:18 PM
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15. Right now Senator Obama is our only hope, whether you voted for him or not.
That's important to keep in mind.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:15 PM
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19. There you go, bringing up the greater good for the greater number.
What the hell is the matter with you. :)
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:25 PM
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21. What the hell is the matter with me? Lots of stuff.
It's a FACT! :)


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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:31 PM
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22. Been saying this for months
When she lost back in March, it should've been over. There was no need to drag it this long and give the Republicans free sound bites to use in their attack ads.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:01 PM
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29. This was a nice sentiment.
It's too bad some are trying to play the "my pain is greater than yours" one-up game in spite of what you said. Anyway, I just wanted to say that even though my guy won, I've had years where my guy didn't win and we ALL have, really, so I appreciate your words. :)
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:46 PM
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42. Yeah, and look where that "nice sentiment" got me.
Fuck everyone everwhere. I hate them all.

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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:42 PM
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37. I think we all won, but the proof will be in the pudding
One of the most important things is having a candidate with big coattails. I didn't need a choice myself and glad it is all now settled (as much as possible) with who it is.

The even more interesting thing to me is why the republicans would chose a candidate with so much baggage :shrug:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:53 PM
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39. hey you forgot dennis! what did dennis do today
that no one else has the balls to do?..............

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:48 PM
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43. OK, I take it all back. Fuck you all, everywhere, always and forever. nm
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:00 PM
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45. Sorry perhaps next ime you could word it a bit better
The "remind" comment set the tone. We don't need to be reminded. We seem to get reminded every 30 minutes or so the last few days.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:13 PM
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46. What part of -FUCK YOU ALL- should I spell slower next "ime", Einstein?
nm
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:26 PM
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49. LOL
Spoken like a true Obama fan.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:23 AM
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57. I love technology....
Sing it, Kip!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:23 AM
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58. I love technology....
Sing it, Kip!
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:27 PM
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50. I've still got my candidates picture up
but I'm supporting Obama now. I was bitterly disappointed when the Iowa caucus were held.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:33 PM
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51. I would add this:
A majority of us were supporting someone who wasn't Barack Obama (and who wasn't Clinton, either,) last fall.

And a majority of us never got to vote for the candidate we supported.

The field was narrowed to two that the majority of DUers did not support after 2 caucuses and 2 primaries.

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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:13 AM
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61. Yep
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:36 PM
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52. Keep buying all those doubters the documentary the 11th hour.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:48 AM
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55. excellent point! thank you. nt
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:31 AM
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59. K&R
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