What? McCain hasn't read the US Constitution?

[psychopomp]

"What the Hell is McCain Talking About?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9izhjnaLa3M&eurl=http://www.isaiadis.com/2008/06/08/what-the-hell-is-mccain-talking-about/

[Warren Stupidity]

1. Reaching out to the theofascist wing of the reknucklian party.

What else is new. This is good news actually. McCain needs to go campaign for his base in order to actually get them to the polls. Meanwhile Obama can head straight for the center and work on bringing more independents and disgruntled 'moderate' (and I have no clue at this point what that means) republicans onto our side.

[psychopomp]

16. Blatant pandering isn't new, but can we quote him on this?

The number one issue that is in the selection, that which people should make a selection of the President of the United States, is will this person carry on in the Judeo-Christian principle--tradition that has made this nation the greatest experiment in the history of mankind?

The "number one issue" in selecting a POTUS is will that person "carry on" Judeo-Christian traditions?

Can we agree that either McCain is a pandering liar or, if he really believes this, a deeply misguided student of American government that should be nowhere near the Oval Office?

[elleng]

20. Yes we can quote him,

and Rover's troops will love it.

McCain's resume is quite thin, in fact, so when its brought out, I hope many will understand the consequences.

[dkf]

2. That was bad.

He is worse at this than George w. Bush. Amazing.

[Puzzler]

3. Of course he has!

... well the second amendment, anyway (and even that he doesn't really understand).

[anonymous171]

4. McCain should keep on saying shit like this.

It reminds everyone how Bushlike he actually is.

[Snarkoleptic]

5. My friends, George taught us that it's just a goddamned piece of paper.

[enough]

6. Appalling on so many levels, but I doubt this sort of thing will hurt him.

This blind faith-based stuff is one of the only cards they have to play, no matter how un-American it actually is.

[and-justice-for-all]

7. That is worse than not wearing a flag lapel pin...!

[HCE SuiGeneris]

8. Dumbya X2

:crazy: :crazy:

[hokies4ever]

22. "Dumbya"

The best variation of Bush's name to date. :rofl:

[anonymous171]

9. " The Constitution established the United States of America as a christian nation."

WTF!? I thought we were supposed to be a secular nation, above all religious belief or disbelief?

[psychopomp]

12. This calls into question his suitability for the job

I would probably have to say yes, that the Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation.

This is just plain wrong. For a candidate who pleads to defend the Constitution this is pathetic. The only places in the constitution that religion is referenced:

* Article. VI. - Debts, Supremacy, Oaths <…> no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States

* Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof <…>
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

[TahitiNut]

15. "the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

In 1797 America made a treaty with Tripoli, declaring that "the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." This reassurance to Islam was written under Washington's presidency, and approved by the Senate under John Adams.

Thomas Jefferson didn't just reject the Christian belief that the Bible was "the inspired word of God"; he rejected the Christian system too. In Notes on the State of Virginia, he said of this religion, "There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites" (quoted by newspaper columnist William Edelen, "Politics and Religious Illiteracy," Truth Seeker, Vol. 121, No. 3, p. 33).

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/farrell_till/myth.html

[jazzjunkysue]

14. Talk about pandering. He forgets, the Xtians loathe him.

He's pandering to George's base, cause he doesn't have one of his own. They're not buying.

[Barack_America]

19. He certainly didn't read his American history books...

Many of our founding fathers, including Jefferson and Franklin, were Deists.

[tblue37]

30. And is his good buddy Lieberdweeb comfortable with that claim? n/t

[Obama4prez4life]

10. God hes a idiot.

[anigbrowl]

11. >barf< this is part of a more general Republican agenda...

keep your eyes and ears opens and you'll hear LOTS of conservative commentators talking about our 'Judeo-Christian traditions'. There's nothing in the bible about democracy or the idea of a republic.

Our institutions are ultimately derived from greek philosophy, not that of the Bible. Religious though the pilgrims were, what they were running away from Europe was not secularism but misrule perpetrated under the guise of 'the divine right of kings', wherein rulers claimed heavenly sanction for their positions of authority and thus primacy of royal blood over law.

[backscatter712]

13. This is why I'm voting for the guy that worked as a Constitutional law professor...

Maybe Obama could teach McCain the meaning of separation of church and state...

[mcctatas]

17. So you know what pisses me off the most?

(and I'm sure no one really cares), but all of these wingers claim to be "strict constructionists" who are guided by the principles put forth in the Decleration of Independance and the Constitution, but yet the "Treaty of Tripoli" was unanimously approved by the 5th congressional congress which included several signatories to one or both documents including: President John Adams, Vice President Thomas Jefferson, John Langdon, John Rutledge, Charles Pickney, Pierce Butler, Abraham Baldwin. Why don't they let the founding fathers speak for themselves??? :wtf:


Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.


http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/treaty_tripoli.html

[anonymous171]

18. Yep. Thus Ron Paul

[mcctatas]

21. I'm not up on my Ron Paul trivia...

is he more sane about the separation of church and state than most pukes?

[anigbrowl]

23. GREAT catch! I'm impressed!

I'm european so I'm not as good as I should be on my US history. that's a great one to keep on file for arguing with thickheaded dominionists and others who go around asserting 'the United States is a CHRISTIAN nation'.

[mcctatas]

24. I went to school in the US from Kindergarten thru college....

and I never heard of it until I had a political philosophy class last year. It's apparently one of the best kept secrets in US history....

[aaronbees]

25. What a belligerent, vacuous, misinformed, lying jackass

he is - little understanding of anything, least of all the Constitution.

[mikiturner]

26. I guess Lieberman won't be his running mate...nt

[ClayZ]

27. Argh..... that is BAD!

K and R

[redstate_democrat]

28. This is unforgivable. Why hasn't the MSM picked up on this?

They are negligent in not doing so. How can he even be remotely qualified for POTUS when he is so wrong about the basic premise of the Constitution?

[psychopomp]

29. Exactly

:wtf: