Obama supporters will be disappointed...

[Blarch]

I am a die hard Obama supporter from the suburbs of Chicago ..with that said.. I want to tell Democrats what is in store for the nation.

Barack Obama will start to build some bridges, maybe starting with the VP ...and not everybody will be happy with what takes place. You might like some of these bridges, you may not, but make no mistake...these bridges will be used to accomplish what seemed to be impossible. Barack Obama will unite the nation. You might not understand or agree with who he reaches out to, but it is all part of a bigger picture. Just be prepared for these bridges, olive branches, or reach outs ...some will be totally unexpected. We will all be disappointed at one time or another ...lets just keep focused on the prize ...a better nation.

Sincerity, Honesty, Honor, Integrity, Change, Unity ...

There is a new sheriff in town ...and he is changing the game.

Ma'am

[Crazy Dave]

1. Twice?

:shrug:

[Blarch]

3. I posted in the GD on accident.

sorry.

[blm]

2. I think most have been around long enough to understand general election outreaches

hopefully, the newer activists will pick up on the nuance and appreciate what needs to be said and done to actually MOVE forward with numbers that cannot be spun.

[Inuca]

5. I think that what the OP is saying

is that it will go beyond the traditional GE conciliatory moves, deeper and more substantive. It is part of both the core message and the method/strategy for achieving his objectives.

[blm]

10. Which is what he's been doing all along, so I don't think it should shock many at this point.

I think the care has been taken, though of course, corporate media can ruin even the most comprehensive strategy.

[blonndee]

4. That actually sounds fine by me.

As long as the Democratic party stands UP for once, I don't care who gets on board with us. We need to move this nation back from the right first and foremost, and we can't do that with a baseball bat. If we somehow managed to do it that way, it could only be temporary, as it would be in keeping with and conductive to perpetuating the deep divide amongst partisans. As soon as the "other side" gained the political advantage, the country would be yanked back to the right and all our work would likely be undone, quickly.

[Blarch]

6. If I know Barack...(and I don't)

I would say he will have one condition.

The TRUTH.

Thats it ... No more lies.

If you can't agree with that condition, then you will be left behind.

[musicblind]

20. Every politician lies

it doesn't make it right, but it is expected and I have stopped being angry about it. Even in the primaries. Clinton lied about Bosnia (big time) and Obama was most likely misleading about his knowledge of Rev Wright.

I think what is more important is WHAT they lie about.

I will not be angry if Obama reaches out, only if he compromises very SPECIFIC ideals. My big issue is gay rights. I am okay if you reaches out to those who do not agree with me on that issue, but I don't want him to compromise his beliefs or the progress of that issue.

I think Obama is going to turn things on their head in this contest, in a good way. During the Wright scandle I was sceptical, but he did what he had to do and I was impressed with how he handled it. I don't feel like he threw Wright under the bus, but I do feel like leaving the church the way he did was smart and fixed a lot of the problem.

Obama is savvy, in a way a lot of politicians before him have NOT been. I think he will use this to his advantage. He will not stand back and let people make claims against him the way Kerry did, but he WILL reach out and LISTEN to what the other side has to say. This is so important. You can't make a proper judgement about your position until you have listened to ALL sides, and that is what Obama wants to do. Sometimes people want to be listened to even more than they want to be agreed with.

[Warren Stupidity]

7. Most of us are aware that he needs to actually win the election.

I anticipate not being thrilled with his VP choice or how he chooses to frame the contest against McCain. He doesn't need to win my vote, he knows that and I know that. Obama and I understand what the score is between him and me.

I also understand that Obama is a center/center-right Democrat. So I fully expect to be not exactly thrilled with the center/center-right policies that will emanate from an Obama administration. I am ok with that too as it will be a move to the left from our current far-right theofascist idiocy.

Small steps in the right direction are better than going the wrong way.

[Cha]

11. I anticipate being

thrilled with his VP selection. If I'm not then I'll be disappointed but I've had a lot these last years in politics of our country and that will be an easier one to get over.

[lapfog_1]

8. I'm sure there will be some reaching out

and possibly even a few reach arounds...

but there is also some name taking going on for later ass kicking.

One name I think is evidently on the list right now is Joe Lieberman.

If you are implying that Obama will decide to make Hillary his VP choice, I don't think you are correct. If he does, I'll still vote for him, but without a great deal of enthusiasm. Not because I hate Hillary, but because it will show a lack of confidence and a lack of judgment. The vast majority of Democrats that voted for Hillary will come around to back Obama whether she is on the ticket or not.

[Blarch]

9. Hillary is out.

I am refering to after he wins the WH.

[TBF]

13. I think we can deal with that, Blarch. And I don't expect his first appointment to the Court

to be way leftist like I am. I'll take someone like Sandra Day O'Connor or left of her. That keeps it pretty open. Just no more fascists please.

[patrice]

12. As long as the People's role in what happens is respected.As long as We can be a part of the Change.

I feel like we are starting out behind the other players. We need to be helped in catching up and once we are in it for real, our role MUST be protected from predation by Insiders like lobbyists and Corporate Media.

[JoFerret]

34. Not going to happen

but no reason to be downhearted.

[indimuse]

14. Translation...

ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED!

[Inuca]

16. Actually no

that's not at all what the OP is saying, nor is Obama.

[TahitiNut]

21. Well, that shows all the intellectual acuity of

.., a single-celled organism. :eyes:

[JoFerret]

38. Is that a new insult?

Or have you used it before?

[TahitiNut]

41. I have no intention of insulting ...

... single-celled organisms. Sorry if you take it personally. :shrug:

You still seem to have difficulty distinguishing between message and messenger, huh?
:eyes:

[JoFerret]

48. How is your offensive message

separate from you who delivers it.

Are you channeling voices?

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[Warren Stupidity]

49. Oh look, you are back, but no BIG ASS COLORED FONTS

come on indimuse, use your excellent talents to attack McCain and support our candidate. You are better than this.

[msongs]

15. oh yeah equality for all...cept those pesky homosexuals. obama's bible don't like em nt

[JoFerret]

35. The UCC is quite "liberal" on that issue

maybe more so than Obama himself.

[anonymous171]

37. wtf!?

[Willo]

17. I'm expecting there will be positions for most who ran.

Positions for republicans in strange places, etc.

I expect he will always make me think and consider.

I imagine that at some point someone will say "but President Obama that's not how we usually ha...nevermind"

[Blarch]

18. Exactly.

I just am worried about a knee jerk reaction from the DU type crowd...Rememeber, Lincoln appointed his rivals.

[Willo]

30. He also mentioned that in his book.

Some will be very critical but that's not a bad thing.

Having nothing to base it on, but I keep thinking he is going make an announcement of more than one appointment.
I also think he will have people covering so many states McCain won't be able to keep up.

Okay GE dream with me...imagine all of his opponents in the primary crisscrossing states, his ground teams, donor base...ahh.

[Diamonique]

19. Obama has so far run the smartest and best organized campaign I've ever seen.

I may not like some of his decisions going forward, but I trust his smarts and his abilities and will support him unequivocally.

This man knows what he's doing!

[Window]

22. I trust Obama to do what he has to do to to build those bridges.

I'm almost certain there will be some things he does that I won't understand, but the important thing is I trust him and am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[graywarrior]

23. He's gonna pull republicans in with him

I trust his judgement

[EFerrari]

26. I'm leaning more toward survival over purity

except on DU, where I can talk about stuff that civilians don't pay attention to. :)

[high density]

27. As long as the "bridges" he builds fulfill his message of change, that's fine with me

There are certain people he simply can't build bridges with/to if he wants his core campaign platform to remain valid.

[bunnies]

28. Speak for yourself. nt

[Blarch]

29. Just tellin you how it's gonna be.

Take it or leave it.

[bunnies]

31. Nice to know that you decide how everyone feels.

:eyes:

[Blarch]

32. I am just putting it out there...

You can feel any way you like about the issue. After all, This is America.

[bunnies]

39. Oh. Now I can feel any way I want?

A minute ago you were telling me how it was gonna be. Its not about America. Its about being human. Humans get to have their own feelings.

[Blarch]

40. This 'coming together' is gonna happen...

no matter how you feel about it ...it will take place, it IS how it's gonna be.

Now you can sit and pout in the corner and fight it all the way, or you can get behind it.

It's your choice....it's all your choice.

[genna]

45. I think it is the red pill that let's me see how far down the rabbit hole goes, right?

I am looking forward to seeing how many rivals Obama puts in the governing coalition. Obama was campaigning in Southern Illinois, winning Republican votes.

It will be more than 1 Republican who has a cabinet level post. I bet they won't be social/cultural conservatives. Instead I think he will have a few economic leaning Republicans who want to balance the budget.

I think he will take our pure political ideals into practical vote building coalitions. He is not a leftist. He is a centrist. I don't think there is much room in this country for a real Roosevelt social program making president or cabinet. He will be beating back a right leaning Congress and media UNLESS he is able to turn the tide by using his money raising abilities in local races for left leaning Dems.

[bunnies]

46. But I will not be disappointed.

Despite your prediction. Thats all Im saying.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

33. as long as he doesn't pick a rethuglican for VP or appoint any to his cabinet......

if he does I will not vote for him...that is my line in the sand.

[Blarch]

36. I would expect at least one republican in his cabinet.

Count on it. sorry.
I can't say who and where.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

42. well then if he feels he must let him do it in his 2nd term...I stand firm on the matter

[Blarch]

43. Can't cross a bridge that hasn't been built yet ...

and you can't destroy it either. Lets wait and see.

[Zhade]

44. If you're thinking clinton, think harder. Obama's not stupid - he won't give mcLame that ammo.

All mcLame would have to do is play the Tuzla video to easily prove clinton's a liar - or play the video where she endorsed him over Obama, undercutting the ticket.

I seriously doubt he hasn't realized the damage those two videos would do to his ticket.

[genna]

47. I think he is going to pick a red state social conservative democratic governor or senator as VP

Webb or a VA contingent
Nunn or a GA contingent
I like the Pacific Northwest or Southwestern red state democrats too.

I'm not feeling Rendell. He was a little too 'you can't win PA' because I know these people won't put a black man in. If he goes in knowing it can't happen, why bother? Plus he keeps saying NOW that the Dems have picked the weaker candidate.

Take him at his word.

[SoxFan]

50. The "Pup Tent Democrats" are already whining

I've seen threads kvetching about how he had better not pick anyone acceptable to the DLC. Of course, this would immediately eliminate Sebelius, Napolitano, Clark, Biden, Kaine, Richardson, Rendell, Nunn, Daschle, and most of the other legitimate possibilities as well.

Sorry, kids, but Dennis Kucinich, Barbara Lee, and Bernie Sanders aren't going to be on the short list.