So, Obama gets the nomination & MTP discussion is all about Hillary?

[EffieBlack]

And when they finally got around to mentioning Obama, it was to discuss Obama's reaction to Hillary's speech. And then they moved on to McCain - and how McCain was dealing with Hillary.

Wow.

[Adelante]

1. That's how it's going to be today

It stands to reason.

[Skinner]

2. Of course the discussion is all about Hillary.

Everyone has known that Obama would win the nomination for months, so it wasn't particularly newsworthy when he finally clinched it.

But Hillary... She made news. BIG news. In case you haven't noticed, all the discussion on DU is about Hillary Clinton, too.

She kicked ass.

[EffieBlack]

5. We may have known all along that he would get the nomination

But he got it this week and it IS a big deal - although you wouldn't know it from the coverage today.

I sincerely doubt if the shoe were on the other foot - if someone else had clinched the nomination and Obama bowed out yesterday - that the coverage would be all about Obama.

Clinton was smart to time her speech the way she did. But I think the media is being typically irresponsible in the focus of their coverage.

[Skinner]

8. If the campaign had played out exactly the same way...

...but with Clinton as the winner and Obama as the tenacious second-place finisher -- threatening to take the fight all the way to the convention, holding back on conceding, and then giving the speech of his life when he finally bows out and endorses the winner -- you bet the coverage would be all about Obama.

Yesterday we watched history being made. I will never forget it.

[EffieBlack]

9. We also saw history being made on Tuesday

In fact, the history made on Tuesday is much more significant than that made yesterday.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

[JoFerret]

15. Ridiculous.

.

[Carolina]

20. I totally agree EffieB

Grandstanding, narcissistic Clinton had to be led to the door by the party because she wouldn't concede at the appropriate time which was Tuesday night. So then she steals more limelight with more grandstanding yesterday so she'll fill the newscycle STILL. I disagree with Skinner. Real history was made Tuesday night and Clinton diminished it with her antics throughtout the week.

[ZinZen]

56. Not worried about it at all

Obama is the nominee and we will be seeing plenty of him in future news cycles.

[senseandsensibility]

40. I agree that Obama winning the nomination

is much more historically significant that Hillary stepping down. That should be obvious.:shrug:

[Faygo Kid]

43. Yup. Big time. Got to disagree with Skinner on this one.

[TwilightGardener]

50. Sad that this point even has to be made.

[EffieBlack]

59. It should be - but you'd hardly notice it by watching the MSM

[dailykoff]

47. Agree.

If Obama had pulled what Hillary pulled, yesterday or during the preceding five months, he wouldn't be getting high fives and accolades. He'd be getting the Jeremiah Wright Al Sharpton treatment and run out on a rail.

Since it's been twenty-four hours, I hope I can safely say that I found Clinton's speech to be a disgrace. Nearly every sentence was a dog whistle to supporters to continue their efforts to "restore" the Clintons to their rightful place.

Did she praise Michelle? Did she rail against McCain? Did she mention Obama's legislative accomplishments? Did she even invite the Obama's to share the stage?

The answers tell me all I need to know about where the Clintons are headed and it isn't "unity" except by the most wishful of interpretations.

[faithfulcitizen]

55. Very good point. I'm hoping we can move on this week, and he can rightfully have the limelight.

Perhaps next week, we will be able to discuss what an incredible historic event this is for our country. As a white woman, I still get choked up about what we've just achieved.

And *when* a woman earns this same achievement, I will be just as proud.

[cloudythescribbler]

12. There was concern just a few short days ago about her NEVER conceding, and now ...

a little television coverage (which I myself confess to skipping) is too much. I was appalled by months -- months! -- of what seemed to me protestations about the McClurkin episode; well, this is the flip side. Instead of doting on something secondary WAY beyond its intrinsic secular significance, (and also trashing the candidate I have long been strongly supporting), there is this rush to move on, without, supposedly, a moment to spare. Some might see in this the urge towards unity, but if so, it's perverse. ("There's never time to do it right, but always time to do it over", as the saying goes).

What is striking is that in both the grossly excessive doting on an awkwardly handled moment in Obama's campaign, and the easy brushing aside of this crucial rapprochement there is the same common denominator -- a stinginess in the slack afforded to candidates who are facing situations of difficulty beyond what most folk here I would think could hardly even imagine.

I still retain my concern that Obama NOT pick Hillary for VP, but that he DOES pick a woman, and importantly, a woman who NEVER supported the Iraq War Resolution (such a pivotal point in the campaign) -- but I insist that this concern is different from schadenfreude. Some no doubt will find something in this combination of positions to skewer, but so be it.

:bounce:

[indimuse]

21. i don't care how great an orator Obama is..

He couldn't TOUCH, what she did yesterday! That, was from a whole other REALM! Masterful!

[my3boyz]

32. HA! Now that is funny! nt

[Window]

34. Please.

[rodeodance]

62. yes. it was.

[frogcycle]

3. bizarre (and offensive) , but it will play itself out

just be glad what they are covering is not an "I'm in it until the convention" speech. if she is true to her word, then even if they stay obsessed with her it will be to cover her campaigning for him

and, by the way, he is laying low right now to let this play out - he is one damned smart cookie

[MonkeyFunk]

4. Wait...

you mean they're actually discussing NEWS and not pimping a candidate?

Call congress right fucking now!

[Ewellian]

54. but...

Obama went back to Chicago for "down time" with his family! Why didn't MTP cover that! He's the nominee...Hillary is just a LOSER!
:sarcasm:

[BooScout]

6. Oh yea.........it's all Hillary's fault.....

She dared to concede the race YESTERDAY and now they are talking about it and not talking about Obama as much for what 5 minutes?.......what is it going to take with you? I have news for you...........Obama is not the center of the Universe. Give it a rest will ya?

[Vinca]

7. But, but, but . . . I thought it was the liberal media.

They're required to promote Obama. Guess I'm just as glad tennis is on instead of MTP today.

[my3boyz]

31. I think it came on at 8 am here. I remember Tim saying it would be early

I overslept so I missed it. Guess it is a good thing I did miss it if they did not give Obama his props for being the first AA to secure the nomination. I'm surprised Tim Russert did not do that. Yesterday he was still amazed as he kept repeating what a big deal it was. Guess it is not that much of a good deal to him now..........

[BeyondGeography]

10. And next Sunday it will be "Hillary Who?"

Ignore it.

[rodeodance]

11. oh give it a rest. It was an Historic day yesterday.

[dcindian]

16. but it shouldn't have been.

Every single race has had a multitude of politicians who did not win it is as common as rain. Hillary should have been no different.

Hillary has caused quite the mess.

She was not as close as you people think she lost months ago, but stayed in to fake some kind of close race to claim some kind of victory even though us Democrats rejected her campaign of divisiveness long ago.

Now in many post on this forum and others we see what the outcome of such a vindictive politician is. The out come of one candidates run to just keep it close. A bitterness so deeply held and a reverence so loudly voiced it borders on delusion.

[rodeodance]

17. She was a first . Can't you get that. Get a grip.

[TBF]

19. Do you have to insult people repeatedly?

The speech was fantastic, and historic. You're not going to convince people of that by beating them on the head though. Perhaps you should "get a grip".

Effie, stay strong, at least she's out now.

[my3boyz]

33. That poster is one of my ignored ones so I can only imagine what they said. nt

[Faygo Kid]

44. Yes, she does, and then is first to run to the mods at the slightest offense.

And will do so again here, I am sure.

Unbelievable how she dishes out the insults and can't take any criticism.

She has given no indication of supporting Barack, so is likely done as of Wednesday.

[rodeodance]

61. if .....

posters post personal insults I will. you broke DU rules and you know know it. stop acting like a victim. you are to blame for your own behavior.

[dansolo]

53. Her speech was neither fantastic nor historic

It was necessary, that's all.

[rodeodance]

60. As the first viable Dem candidate for the US presidency, it was indeed a historic run and moment.

[Heather MC]

18. She is delusional, she never thought she would lose

Remember, "I am going to win"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07BPFPy6tkE

Race will not last past Feb 5th, sorta blows her "count every vote" BS out the window huh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WsPmZ1zDeA&feature=related

This kind of delusion is very scary, and why she is not fit to be VP!

[seaglass]

25. That's not delusion, it's confidence. what should she have

said, that she might lose? Never show weakness, project confidence. Really, it's that simple.

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[Captain Hilts]

30. Tell the people of CA,TX,OH, PA, NY,NJ, IN, FL, MA, WV, KY, NV ...that.

The folks in the Big Blue states voted for her.

[Hawkeye-X]

42. Hillary lost TX

But then again, why are we even rehashing the same old dead-horse shit about the primaries - it's over. Hillary endorsed Obama, and it's time to heal the scars of our fight.

Hawkeye-X

[KittyWampus]

45. Florida didn't count and she lost Texas. And since when is WV & KY 'blue'?

That's right, they aren't. They're filled with bigots.

And the ONLY reasons she managed to pull off quite a few of her wins in the blue states is because of the pre-existing party machinery.

[Captain Hilts]

46. Who voted in favor of the guy everyone's comparing Obama to - JFK.

Charlie Peters is from WVA, by they way.

Your statement is bigotted.

[Tim4319]

13. Yeah but....

let a pastor, deacon, trustee, treasurer, elder, the 1,000th member of Trinity Church that sit in the 5th pew 3 seats over from the center isle make a comment that rub the people the wrong way. I but you a million dollars -- that I don't have -- Barack Obama will be the topic of discussion then!

[JoFerret]

14. Why is that a problem?

seems very reasonable except to sore winners.

[dkf]

23. She's still sucking all the air out of the room.

She can't be VP. The Clinton's Circus has and always will be the focus of the media. Its hard to get any work done with them in the room.

[TBF]

24. Yes, Jimmy Carter is correct about that. But she gave a great speech yesterday

and I am thankful for it. I think she deserves her fifteen minutes of fame, congratulations for coming around (she could hold the party hostage, and at least she endorsed even if she hasn't released delegates). So we thank her, and we move on to the next level.

[dkf]

28. If we can move on...

I have a feeling its still going to be all about them. Now it will be all about why she lost.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

26. Jays'us h christ...well it was a news worthy story!....don't worry Obama won

[ElsewheresDaughter]

27. in her 30 min speech she said "Barack Obama" 14 times! that's once every other minute!

stop whining!!!

[EFerrari]

52. She said "i" or "me" 55 times. lol

[BklynChick]

29. the media is obsessed with the Clintons. hopefully in a few days this will pass.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

35. Any Rational Thinking Adult Would Be Able To Easily Understand Exactly Why, And Exactly Why That's

expected.

Try and get a grip when you have the chance.

[crankychatter]

37. so she's irrational and childish? some of you go for the personal insults EVERY TIME nt

no text because you deserve no text

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

48. My Statement Stands Firm.

[Faygo Kid]

58. Is this the "genuine desire to wish good upon all" you talk about in your profile?

Pathetic.

[crankychatter]

36. Enough about Clinton - Let's talk about Obama - Obama, how do YOU feel about Clinton? nt

.

[bridgit]

38. Yes but Michelle Barnard made it onto McLaughlin's panel and she seemed pleased...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nWYZDbc5O4 I hope there is change for the better, wouldn't that be lovely, but maybe nothing ever really will

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

39. Hopefully, Hillary will now leave the stage and we can get to the main event.

[anonymous171]

41. This is exactly why she can't be VP. The press is just fucking obsessed with her.

[TwilightGardener]

49. I agree--it's pure crap.

[EFerrari]

51. I think we can expect the same dynamic to be in play for the rest

of the campaign.

But, you know what, Effie? Obama is a smart person. Watch him turn it to his advantage. :)

[Cha]

57. Exactly, sfexpat...Obama knows how the m$$$m works.

He and his team are working right through the corporatemedia. Obama and we didn't get to where we are with any of their help..they know they'll have to be held more accoutable with an Obama win.

Rec'd~