Rate Senator Clinton's Speech

[grantcart]

On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the highest how do you rate Senator Clinton's concession speech?

[Joe the Revelator]

1. For what she needed to do, it was as close to a "10" as she could have gotten

[TahitiNut]

3. I agree. An '8'.

:evilgrin: She's no Spinal Tap. :rofl:

[BlooInBloo]

16. I went with 8 too! wow! It was definitely a very good speech - covered all of the bases needed.

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[AtomicKitten]

2. She did what she needed to do. No complaints from me.

[KAZ]

4. An easy "10" in my book!

[eleny]

5. 10+

[Zynx]

I'd say it was nearly as good as Obama's 2004 convention speech so a 9.

Even though I originally supported Clinton, I do give Obama for giving the best political speech I have heard in my lifetime.

[Patsy Stone]

6. 10!

[terrya]

7. A 10

[GarbagemanLB]

8. The only minor complaint is that she never mentioned McCain by name. Other than that, great speech.

[muryan]

9. I give it an 8

I'm still waiting for her to say that she no longer wants the support of those who would vote for McCain.

[Shae]

36. to be fair

she can't really diss her supporters . . .
I was hoping she would say something like: Those who honor her values must now give support to Obama.
I was initially a little disappointed in the overall, thinking she spent too much time on herself. But she was talking to her supporters not Obama's, and it had to be that kind of speech.
She had people cheering to support Obama, so I guess it worked.

[corkhead]

10. I give it an eleven

[dana_b]

19. "but these go to 11"

my favorite movie of all time...

[awoke_in_2003]

79. A funny aside that has nothing to do with this thread

Marshall actually did make a very limited series of amps that had volume placards that went to 11 after the spinal tap movie came out.

[dana_b]

11. a "1"??

:wtf:

[musicblind]

22. Whoever voted the "1" is not in this to support Obama but merely to

bash Hillary. That person will be gone from DU on Wednesday!


Then we'll be ready to WIN BACK THE WHITE HOUSE!

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[awoke_in_2003]

80. "That person will be gone from DU on Wednesday!"

And thank the mods for that. I still think that the majority of the bashers from either side were people who came here to stir shit up. Too many of them had 1000+ post and had been here for 3 months. A very vocal minority- they will not be missed.

[cynatnite]

12. This was by far her best n/t

[Tarheel_Dem]

13. The excerpts I've seen are simply magnificent, and magnanimous.

I'll admit I was worried, which is why I couldn't bring myself to watch. I'm now watching post speech coverage, and it's all very positive, even by Pat Buchanan. This is the Hillary I grew to love, and today I'm very proud to be a Democrat.

[IsItJustMe]

14. 10. No way in hell you could have asked for anything more if you are ready to kick some Republican

butt in November.

[Hope And Change]

15. 10!

[grantcart]

17. Is the one somebody who can't read directions or a Republican lol?

interested in that explanation.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

20. troll

I gave it a 10

I think she looked great too. I think she was trying to be as gracious as possible and she came across with class and dignity.

[FrenchieCat]

21. Not enough about McCain and what he ain't.....

Gave it an "8" in being generous.

[TahitiNut]

28. Agreed.

:thumbsup:

[Youphemism]

35. I thought it was a solid 9...

I've pretty much been 100% in line with most of your posts, so I thought I'd note this slight difference.

I would have liked her to directly address those hoping to elect her in 2012 by invoking "the fierce urgency of now" and saying that the current economic threat to their lives and the physical threat to the lives of the troops are more important than any future career ambitions she could ever have.

And yes, at least a single point that Senator McCain poses a threat to the issues she's been fighting for.

Even so, you could almost see the bile creeping up in her throat during the Obama section of the speech, and the way she frequently looked down as she talked at that point. Even the SNL skits about her played on the fact she has such a tough time talking about the accomplishments of her adversary. I'm sure this was the toughest speech of her life, and that bile creep look was very understandable.

So many people have noted that she's at her best when she lets her guard down and her feelings show. If she had gone through the Obama section with a big, cheesy grin, it would not have worked nearly as well. Beyond the actual words she spoke, it might be more important that she got the ball rolling slowly and steadily. If she had launched out of the gate for Obama, she might have left more of her supporters behind.

[sfam]

41. I disagree. This was not the right occaision to address McCain...when Hillary and Obama are...

on stage together, that is the right time to have Hillary do the comparison between the two. I think Hillary was pitch perfect today. Our candidate has to be thrilled, I think.

[ruggerson]

23. Do we get to guess who voted 1?

:P

[grantcart]

27. lol probably just a smart ass who wanted to get a reaction

[Jazzgirl]

24. It was okay and served it's purpose.

I felt like there were certain parts where she was not particularly sincere but it was worth an 8.

[TahitiNut]

29. Agreed.

:thumbsup:

[sfam]

44. I agree with MSNBC that the "rally the troops for the other candidate" speech is...

the hardest one could make. Most usually break down when they try to do even half as much as Hillary did. Hillary handled this about as good as I could imagine. Considering how much she truly wanted this, I cannot imagine her being more graceful here. I give it a full A+.

[tokenlib]

25. I had to give her a 10--she wasn't shrill, she was incredible..WOW!!

Maybe some of us were disppointed in the lack of a concession on Tuesday night...but I think after a few days of reflection she gave an even better speech today. The extra days may have helped her supporters be more receptive to what she accomplished today...

[Irishonly]

26. A 10 without a doubt

She did what she needed to do and brought the crowd with her.

[grantcart]

30. kick for high traffic

[marigold20]

32. Another kick - her speech was excellent

..

[jgraz]

31. 9/10. One of her best speeches.

She really didn't have to mix in "YES WE CAN". That was quite a nice gesture.

[4_Legs_Good]

33. I thought it was great with some incredible lines

By far, her best, IMO. Particularly about 18M holes in the glass ceiling, and my favorite, the line about having a woman or African American running for President no longer being remarkable, and that being remarkable.

That was one for the books.

Way to go Hillary. I'm so glad to be proven wrong, and so glad to have you on our side!

David

[RamboLiberal]

37. This Obama supporter gives her a 10!

[canucksawbones]

38. She did exactly what needed to be done

and though I have seen better speeches, this message was delivered clearly and on target, so it's still a 10 in my books.

[IndyOp]

39. Hmmm... Right now 3 people have voted "1" -- Shouldn't this be considered

one way we can recognize freepers hanging out at DU? Shouldn't mods be able to look up who cast those votes and TS the posters? Seriously, no Democrat could vote that speech a "1".

[sfam]

42. Unless they thought "1" was the highest mark, I fully agree...

Not possible.

[LBJDemocrat]

46. No.

Hillary Clinton spoke emphatically about herself but robotically, and insincerely, about Obama. When her words praised Obama, her voice was dreary, her pace plodding, and her face glum. I don't blame her, considering her plans have come to naught. But I don't admire her for it either.

Watch it again.

I would give it a three. I haven't voted. Maybe the people who gave her a 1 are simply tired of the groupthink around here.

[grantcart]

48. there was tension in her voice but I found that made it even better knowing

that it was in fact very difficult for her to do.

[indimuse]

61. pALEEEZ!

indimuse (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-07-08 04:21 PM
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26. !
It was one of the best speeches I've ever heard and one of the best she has given EVER! Stunning!

[sfam]

40. Every Obama supporter should give this speech an A+

Truly, I don't get the lower grades, unless they are McCain infiltrators. I cannot imagine how she could have done it better. She seemed to strike the right tone throughout, and more importantly, lead her most fervent followers on a chain of reasoning that leads right to Obama.

As an Obama supporter I say Great Great job, Hillary!

[B Calm]

43. I have never found her inspirational. I gave her a 9. The first 6 min was all about me, me, me,

but then it got a lot better when she spoke about Obama and uniting the party.

[IndyOp]

45. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6314930

:hug:

[B Calm]

50. What the hell??? I gave her a NINE out of ten!!

[grantcart]

52. IndyOp is being very stern today

[B Calm]

53. The thread was titled RATE her speech, and I did. I think IndyOp needs

to cool it and grow some skin!

[IndyOp]

70. My response to you was to link to a photo I thought was funny...

It wasn't intended to be particularly stern. Sorry.

[quaker bill]

47. The best

speech she has and likely could have given.

[ccharles000]

49. 10.

One of her best.

[NancyG]

51. The line about not looking back was memorable

I was a proud woman in support of Obama.

[lojasmo]

54. 10. Writen by Obama. Please bookmark. EOM

[jsmirman]

55. I gave her a 9. Overall, it was fantastic.

There were the slightest small things I would have had her do differently, but it was too good to be an 8.

[RichardRay]

56. Nine out of Ten

because I never give anything 10/10. Heck, I don't give the Dalai Lama 10/10, so she did pretty darn well by my lights.

I don't agree that she was dragging or self-absorbed; this was the end of a very long and intense year and a half and there was emotion there that has to be honored. I don't know how anyone could ask for a more clear cut and unequivocated statement of support for Barack.

(grantcart - I heisted you new sig line - namaste)

[grantcart]

57. not mine so steal away - I asked them if they could get a smaller one lol

[TBF]

64. I also gave her a "9" - and for Hillary she probably deserves a "10"

Very, very good.

[Meshuga]

58. 10! as in ten factorial

:-)

[Milo_Bloom]

59. She said the words, but it sounded insincere, gave her a 2 for effort.

[TahitiNut]

63. She has a hard time faking sincerity.

:evilgrin: A lot of us do.

:hide:

[fadedrose]

69. She needs more practice

If a couple of dummies like you and me spot that, how's she going to convince the moneybags who support Obama that they should help pay her debts?

'Nother thing I don't understand is that how can the candidate who goes into debt running for president do a better job with the nation's economy than the candidate who ends up with enough to lend the candidate who poorly managed the campaign?

I wish I wuz smarter to unnerstan 'at bedder.

[dchill]

60. It was a 10, but I voted 9...

1 point demerit for not doing it sooner. :shrug:

[thoughtcrime1984]

62. I gave it a 9, close to a 9.5, it was great!

Well done and sorely needed. Thank you Hillary Clinton! Now, let's go kick some McCain tail!!!

[Ino]

65. memememememe Obama mememememememe

She said what she had to, but that sing-song tone of voice at the refrain "and that's why we have to elect Barack Obama" sounded sarcastic.

Her going on & on about her FORTY YEARS (wasn't it 30 before?) of experience came perilously close to her "McCain and I have a lifetime of experience, but Obama doesn't" jabs -- which will be used against Obama by the Repugs. Thanks for nothing once again, HilLIARy.

That's the last time I'll EVER hear her voice. She's dead (muted) to me now.

[fadedrose]

66. I'd give the speech writers a 10 and HRC a 9.8. I imagined her doing a "wink-wink"

I don't need flaming, just reassurance. I'm old-fashioned and believe in the old adage, "look before you buy."

The Clinton campaign needs lots of money to pay off her huge debts, possibly even to pay salaries. The more supportive she and her staff are to Obama, the more likely his well-heeled supporters will pull out their checkbooks. Many of them have not reached their maximum amount unlike HRC's supporters.

Hopefully - not a dime till AFTER the convention....and no more talk from them about vice president selection......

It's been said on tv that Obama can't allow his campaign funds to be used because his small amount donors would not allow using it to help HRC. Also, some law may even prohibit it.

It was pointed out to me here in DU that it was common practice for the winner to help the loser pay campaign debts in exchange for throwing their support. If the support is sincere, it's a good investment.

[Dr Fate]

67. A solid 9. Almost perfect. n/t

n/t

[grantcart]

68. as much unanimity as we can handle around here

[dionysus]

71. 10

[MaineDem]

72. 7. Better than adequate.

Not a grand slam but a very decent triple.

(Apologies for the baseball analogy.)

[Willo]

73. Giving just do respect and praise to others is not her strength.

It was a vast improvement over the speech she gave Tuesday night.

She should have:
1) apologized for not conceding properly Tuesday night and for stepping on the victory meant for Obama and his supporters
2) spoken words against McCain
3) told the truth and apologized for any one of the many things she has said and done during the race
4) denouce her supporters support for McCain and their boos of Obama

She is not Obama but she could certainly learn a lot from him.

If she had delivered THIS speech on Tuesday and had not run the type of campaign that she did, this speech would not be all the rave.

The rave is in direct response to the big unknown of would she, could she do the right thing.

So with full recognization of her faults and limitations I gave her an 8 for saying what she needed to say, much better than I thought she would.

[grantcart]

74. kick

[ObamaKerryDem]

75. You know, I've been a pretty harsh critic of Hillary throughout most of this primary season..

..but I must admit, I was pretty impressed with her speech today! I mean, I, like everyone else, knew she would be doing this today, but I have to say I was pretty surprised at just how enthusiastically she did it! And while I've had my issues with Hillary during a lot of this primary season, I have to admit that I admire her for putting so much heart into a speech, under which circumstances, she obviously did not want to give. It reminded me of why I had liked and admired her so much before all this in the first place and I think if she continues down this path, the chances of that so-called "dream ticket" will greatly increase! ;) Not that I think she will or should be his first choice, but it just seems a whole lot more probable after today than it did before. It will, of course, depend on how she (and Bill) conducts herself in the time to come. But either way, if she keeps THIS up, she will be a great asset to the campaign!

I voted 10. :)

[IsItJustMe]

76. One of the most infomational polls I have ever seen on DU. Great idea.

[grantcart]

77. kick so people can see the results

[Danger Mouse]

78. She did the right thing. 10.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

81. for graciousness, passion and integrity--- 10

[high density]

82. 80% or so

There was a lot more "me" and "I" in it than in previous concession speeches I've heard, but my mom says I wouldn't understand since I'm not a woman.

[awoke_in_2003]

83. Given the difficulty of having to

give a concession speech, I have to give her a 10. She said she will work hard to get Obama elected, and asked her supporters to do the same. No more could be asked of her.