OK, as an Obama supporter, I will contribute 25 dollars to Clinton to help pay off her debt

[still_one]

She is walking the walk, and talking the talk

[stray cat]

1. Myself as well

[still_one]

7. I am quite relieved, that her speech is extremely unifying /nt

[stray cat]

20. Yes - me too. I had my doubts and we couldn't have asked for more.

Really good post!

[Zynx]

2. I, as a former Clinton supporter, will match you in appreciation.

I donated $270 to Obama the other day and will chip in to make sure we are a strong and united party.

[stray cat]

5. Thank you! We have much more in common then we do differences

[stray cat]

3. Can we set up a way to do it through DU?

[justgamma]

41. Check out the bottom of the front page.

Du donations through Actblue.

[monmouth]

4. I just mailed off my monthly to Obama, I shall mail another one for her. Go girl...n/t

[Zavulon]

6. Not a cent from me.

She dug her own hole, and I won't help her climb out of it. I'm not forgiving enough to reward her for her cheap shots and assassination remark during the campaign, and I'm certainly not going to reward her for hiding behind Ted Kennedy during her pathetic spin attempt.

[still_one]

8. Do what you want, but we need each other /nt

[Zavulon]

13. Question

I'm asking sincerely, this is not being snide or argumentative: are you suggesting that Obama supporters actually have a moral obligation to bail out Hillary? We need every Hillary supporter's vote we can get, sure, but we also need every possible vote we can get from conservatives who hate John McCain (like my father, for instance). I'm certainly not sending a check to Huckabee or Romney, and they were both a lot more civil towards Obama than Hillary was.

[still_one]

15. Of course not, Obama supports DO NOT have a moral obligation to bail Hillary out

I am doing it on my own, based on the following:

1. Here speech says it all

2. To show unity

I am just expressing my actions. People have to do what they feel appropriate

[Zavulon]

23. Fair enough. Your money, your call.

You're obviously a more forgiving person than I am. The world would probably be better off with more people like you, but this is ONE SPEECH (which I doubt she wrote herself), and it amazes me how many people here are willing to forgive and forget the assassination remark, her hint that Obama couldn't carry the white vote, and so on.

She damaged the party with her selfishness and arrogance, she couldn't even make today's speech on time, and now because of her ability to read someone else's words out loud she's being treated like she pulled the Dalai Lama out of a burning car.

My opinion only, of course. I admit that I'm no fan of hers and have been very critical of her on this board (I'll never forgive her for her IWR vote and refusal to admit it was a mistake), but the way everything she did is being swept under the rug is amazing. Whoever wrote that speech earned every dollar he or she is being paid and then some.

All I know is this: what she read out loud today is miles and miles away from what she felt a week ago. The night Obama clinched the nomination, Terry McCauliffe introduced her as the next president. It just strikes me as if a whole lot of people here are falling for / swooning over a world class snow job.

[still_one]

25. It was her IWR vote why I couldn't support her originally

and I was extremely upset by the way her campaign was run

In fact, if she would have run her campaign as she expressed in her speech today, who knows what might have happened

For whatever reason, I was quite happy that her speech reflected the right thoughts, "snow job or not"

Incidently, I am not for her being President Obama's Vice President

[Zavulon]

28. On that last item, we are in complete agreement.

I do view her speech today, though, as nothing more than an attempt to erase the damage she did during the campaign. She could be bitter and completely sink her 2012 chances, or she could try to show grace and dignity for ONCE and salvage any chances she might have by reading a strategically written speech out loud.

She picked the latter, and people are sucking it up like a Hoover DeLuxe.

One thing I've noticed over the years is that concession speeches are invariably praised as being "brave," "classy" and so on. Dole's 1996 speech was lauded this way, and it was pure drivel.

I might think more highly of Hillary's speech if I believed a single word she said, but I don't.

Anyway, I have to admit that even though you and I don't see 100% eye-to-eye, I admire your character.

[Willo]

30. If it helps

there is not a lot that she has done that I will forget or simply forgive because of a good speech.

However, everything she has done so far said that she WOULD NOT give a speech like she gave today.
That she didn't deliver it on Tuesday was just one more stone I was able to pile on her. She put herself in a position of HAVING to deliver a very good speech as nothing less would suffice. I am impressed that she found it within herself to do it. Therefore, I can remove that stone.

What she did today was take the focus off of herself and directed it to the task at hand, which is McCain.
By her speech today, she made it easier for Obama, easier for the Party and easier for all of us to focus on that task.

If and when there is an issue that specifically deals with Hillary, then we deal with Hillary.

Yes, some of her supporters on here think the speech was an eraser. It wasn't and when necessary, the truth will still be told.
Such as, words said in the Primaries that will be repeated in the General. There is no way to discuss such situations under gag and censor. Facts will remain facts. One fact is that her campaign has her hurt now and in the future. Another fact is that we need to know what side of the fence she's on. Another fact is that words do not undo damage but they help heal wounds. Another fact is that TODAY SHE MADE A START and I hope her word is good this time.

[still_one]

16. Of course not, Obama supports DO NOT have a moral obligation to bail Hillary out

I am doing it on my own, based on the following:

1. Here speech says it all

2. To show unity

I am just expressing my actions. People have to do what they feel appropriate

[stray cat]

17. Not in the least - its one of my contributions to a fellow dem and to unity.

[madeline_con]

19. Did Obama spend that much?

Seems a bit steep, if you ask me. I thought they had like $109 million gross on their tax return? :shrug:

[StevieM]

40. She requires no forgiveness, she has done nothing wrong. The RFK accusation was idiotic--it was just

another McCarthyite smear of Hillary.

Steve

[Muttocracy]

49. Glad to see your post - starting to think I was nuts

Why should we pay off her debt when the DNC, Obama's campaign, and dozens of Congressional campaigns need money? Other candidates did the math and dropped out earlier - I don't remember calls to have the leading candidates pay off their debts?

[eleny]

9. I've been thnking that myself

This speech is straight from the shoulder, covering all the issues.

I don't have to try and find motivation to help out. So, in the spirit of unity, kicking in feels right.

[still_one]

10. She is really seems to be pulling this off /nt

[doublethink]

11. Here's the link .......

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/home/?splash=1

Here's the statement on her page ......



Very nice. K&R. Peace.

[still_one]

12. thanks /nt

[Celebration]

14. I feel bad that she caused her net worth to diminish

It must suck to go from having 90 million dollars in net assets to 60 million dollars. Bet they can't even afford their own private jet.

Just as soon as I can get my net worth to about 50% of the Clintons, I'm gonna make a donation!!

[still_one]

18. I am doing it as a gesture of unity. This thread is not meant to encourage negativity /nt

[madeline_con]

21. My gesture of unity will be to discontinue referring to her as...

Republican Lite. :+

[still_one]

22. cool /nt

[JVS]

27. But they might never be able to support a submarine yacht at this rate!

[Pushed To The Left]

24. I just did the same thing! K&R n/t

[OneSelf]

26. I will match you...

On the 15th, when I get my next paycheck.

She took a very positive step forward, and I will follow her lead.

[helderheid]

29. I can do that.

:applause:

[Diamonique]

31. This Obama supporter just donated $50.. a token of appreciation for a kickass speech! n/t

[KAZ]

32. I'm feeling the same way! K&R

[VolcanoJen]

33. This Obama supporter kicked in $50 bucks!

:toast:

[Crunchy Frog]

34. I will too.

[dkf]

35. Damn, it would take 1,200,000 donors to get rid of her debt at $25 a pop

That is freaking scary.

[MiniMe]

43. Did Dean and Obama fundraising teach you nothing?

It doesn't matter how much or how little. Every bit helps. :hi: This post is not meant as a dig at you, just that donating 10 or 15 dollars does help.

[AtomicKitten]

36. I'll throw in on this.

[TheDonkey]

37. I will not

I do not mind if Obama does but she and her husband must demonstrate MUCH MORE than that speech to make up for her nasty campaign.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

38. are you kidding. She should pay us for all the shit she caused

Repukes have made a list of all the bad things she said about him.

[StevieM]

39. She has done nothing wrong, owes nobody any apologies and does ot require forgiveness.

The arrogance of Obamites remains astounding. They are the ones who act like they are entitled. Obama failed to win the number of PDs require to lock up the nomination--therefore he was not entitled. And his campaign against Clinton was a lot harsher then his campaign against him IMO.

Steve

[MiniMe]

46. While I disagree with you about who's campaign was harsher,

fighting for the nomination was her right. But some of her clips are being used in McCain ads now, she said that he wasn't ready to be President. Whether it is true or not (and I don't think it is, but you are entitled to your opinion), that should have never been said. She could say "I would be better", she could say "I'm ready now", but to say that the republican is ready and Obama is not was wrong. She went too far on that one. The only real harshness I heard from Obama was when he said she was "likable enough". I did not like that comment and he was wrong to phrase it that way.

I never thought she should get out before all the primaries took place. She was right to keep going. It was a whisker think race and was close until the last day. We had 2 great candidates, better than anything the republicans offered or could have offered. Its over now, and I think the supporters have much more venom left (on both sides) than the candidates themselves do. Either one of them would have made a great President, but now we have to focus our energy on the real enemy, McSame. Peace.

[Abq_Sarah]

50. Neither candidate has anything to apologize for

They were running against each other for a spot at the top of the ticket. They both had different styles and they will both be needed in the GE. Clinton likes to throw her own punches and Obama needs people who will get their hands dirty so he can remain above the fray. With the two of them working together, we'll be unbeatable.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

54. if you think she is going to REALLY work for him - it's a fantasy!

I'd like to believe it too, trust me. But she's not. Her eyes are on 2012
and that's it. period. paragraph. We will just have to work a lot harder
to overcome the drag. Just like extra hard to overcome potential puke
vote fraud

[Laura PourMeADrink]

53. If she hadn't stayed in LONG past her welcome - you and she

would have gotten over it much quicker since she wouldn't have invested so much on
losing cause. She caused this on her own - she stayed in when it was mathematically
impossible for her to win ! Raising your hopes and while she was at it reduced
Obama's chances (the one who had the most delegates).

[lonestarnot]

45. Get out. Your divisiveness is creating a need for kaopectate.

wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaopectate

[Laura PourMeADrink]

55. you get out ! I have as much right to speak reality as you fantasy

there are always two sides - haven't you realized that yet?

[slinkerwink]

42. I donated too.

[lonestarnot]

44. I'm in. Where do I go? Hillaryclinton.com?

[sfam]

47. I'll wait for Obama to ask...

If he does, I'll drop 50 bucks

[K Gardner]

48. I'm in !

[DenverDem23]

51. You are a better (or richer) person than I am.....

I simply can't afford to help her, that's the bottom line. I could make all sorts of comments about her high priced consultants, etc etc, and that she can afford to pay it off herself with Bill and never starve or be homeless....or about how she mismanaged her campaign and the money, and hadn't really planned well, nor paid her bills on time. But on this day, I won't get into that. I just simply can't afford to help her out. PERIOD.

[mcg]

52. I matched you! Thank you Hillary!

I'm so happy today, I think I can hear the celestial choirs!

[olkaz]

56. I will consider it when she releases the delegates.

Until then, she can pony up the cash.

[democrattotheend]

57. I wish Obama would put up a link on his website

I'm willing to donate but want the Obama campaign to get credit for it. I figure the more she knows comes from Obama supporters, the more good will that could help build in terms of both getting her to campaign for Obama and helping some of her staff warm up to the prospect of being involved with his campaign. I will donate but want them to know it's coming from an Obama supporter who views it as a thank you in advance for her making good on her promise to work her heart out to help make him president.