My biggest Pet Peeve is people who are late when expected

[matcom]

:eyes:


it is frankly, an insult

[TexasObserver]

1. it's a bad habit that tells a lot about the person

"They can wait" is the message it conveys.

There's no excuse for being chronically late.

[qazplm]

that's silly

it says very little about a person other than that they are late.

I've known plenty of folks who are outstanding performers, smart, and do their job well and pleasantly who are "chronically late" and I've known the opposite who are always on time.

I have no love for Clinton, and this is probably an event she should be on time for, but I'm not into psycho-analyzing people I dont know.

[TexasObserver]

34. Sure it does.

Your opinion is clearly uninformed and immature.

Grown ups arrive on time. The failure to arrive on time is an emotional problem.

[Clark2008]

49. You really like telling people what they are and aren't a good judge of, don't you?

You've done it to me and I've seen you do it to several others on this board.

Who died and made you the pscycho-analyst queen/king?

[TexasObserver]

54. I really like ignoring people whose feathers are easily ruffled

So you can rejoin my ignore list. buh bye

[Tarheel_Dem]

59. Hey T.O., I'm on your side, but I'm also one of those people who is

chronically late. I know there's probably some pathology that I should have analyzed, but I have always received excellent job performance appraisals, except in that one area. So, I'll give her some slack in this regard.

I remember as a kid, literally getting beaten out of bed (LOL) because I'm a night owl. I'm famous for missing flights, or having to reschedule appointments. I'm not proud of this, but it's the one thing I haven't been able to overcome in my 50+ years. Bill Clinton is also famous for keeping people waiting. I agree with you that it's disrespectful of other people's time, but whaddya gonna do?

[TexasObserver]

61. I would ask you to do some research on the topic.

I don't want to try to sell it here, but if you will do some research on those who are chronically late, you will find that psychiatrists and psychologists do find it significant.

What does it say about me that I never arrive late at a meeting? It says that I developed a discipline early in life to always be on time, because I think doing so honors those with whom I meet. Being late is a way of saying "others can wait on me to arrive."

[Tarheel_Dem]

67. I agree with you about keeping others waiting. I should say that I've

been with my current employer for nearly 15 years, but a couple of years ago I had a run in with someone very high up in the company about something else, and suddenly my chronic tardiness became an issue. At that time, I seriously considered talking to a professional about this disrespectful character flaw.

Nobody wants to be famous for being late. Even though I have an understanding boss, and he tends to laugh off my tardiness, sometimes I get the feeling that even though he's laughing, he's also taking a jab.

I will, however, follow your advice about the research. It is something I would love to address.

[TexasObserver]

75. I have a very specific basis for my position.

For much of my adult life, I appeared in court regularly. You never arrive in court late. If you don't show on time, you may lose. If you don't show on time, you may get fined $100 a minute by a judge. It's a system that says "if you're not on time, you'd better be bleeding somewhere on the side of the road." And the military was the same way. You are expected to be on time, and one minute late is a failure to meet your obligations. The judge can make others wait, but they can't make him or her wait. In that sense, he's the politician in that scenario. He can be late, even if you can't.

Being late is a way of saying "you have to wait for me, I don't have to wait for you. That's why doctors and lawyers often get away with being late for their patients/clients. Ultimately, it's a slight to those who show up on time, and I advocate against it. When a superior is on time for a subordinate's meeting, he or she is showing great respect for that person, and that person knows it. The same person also knows if they sit waiting for 30 minutes, they're not that important in the scheme of their boss' life.

There are many people in positions of authority who share my view about those who chronically arrive late. We do not always say it as explicitly as I do here, but I can assure you that those people look very harshly upon subordinates, colleagues, or co-workers who chronically arrive late. It's considered a deep seated character defect by those who view the issue as I do.

[Tarheel_Dem]

77. I couldn't agree more. I've been on both sides, as boss and subordinate.

And I agree it is a serious character flaw. I'm just at wit's end to know what to do about it at this point. There are nights when I stay awake, because of an important morning meeting (and I don't recommend this) but I spend the entire day in a zombified state, but at least I was on time.

But more importantly, I will forgive Hillary for her tardiness this time, because that was a magnificent concession speech.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

44. It's called

passive aggressive behavior.

It is one of the big indicators of being a control freak.

If you want to argue with me about my statement - you will lose.

[bvar22]

78. Knock Knock.

*Who's there?

*Control Freak. Now you say, "Control Freak who".

[BigDaddy44]

2. I HEARTILY agree

I have NEVER understood that. Its flat disrespectful.

[JoFerret]

18. Shocking. disgraceful

appalling.sickening. dreadful
Alert the media. (Get a life. Turn off the TV)

[rucky]

86. I've decided to leave my chronically late wife.

Thanks, DU!

[bicentennial_baby]

3. It's like that South Park episode...I bet she won't come out of the closet...

:P

[sniffa]

15. *THUMP THUMP THUMP*

Mrs Clinton, this is General Wesley Clark, and I command you to come out of the closet.

[sniffa]

31. *KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK*

Senator Clinton, this is Debbie Wasserman-Schultz from Florida. Even I have come out and endorsed Senator Obama. You need to come out of the closet.

DEN-VER! DEN-VER! DEN-VER!

[PCIntern]

4. I'm Late, I'm late, I'm late for an important date!

Weird...isn't it?

Tear-streaked?

[Name removed]

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[Darth_Kitten]

6. My grandmother and her family were 15 minutes late...........for the Titanic.

Seriously, it sailed away without them. Sometimes being late is a good thing.

[MH1]

10. ..

:thumbsup:

[helderheid]

14. WOW!

[ecstatic]

43. But if they had boarded, the boat may have never sank

You just never know how events may change due to slight changes.

[AZBlue]

89. WOW!

[msongs]

7. unless it is obama who is late eh? nt

[Carolina]

63. Obama can't afford to be late

because then he'll be accused of being:

- slack and trifling
- shucking and jiving
- on CP time

Chime in all my DU brothers and sisters!

[Captain Angry]

8. I was interviewing for a job. They asked what I thought about punctuality.

I said that I'd rather be an hour early and read the paper than one minute late. I always leave early in case of traffic, trains, accidents, bad parking, etc.

[MH1]

9. Get real. Stuff happens. Don't sweat the petty stuff.

And in my experience it is very typical for politicians to be late.

[bsiebs]

27. Reminds me of an old adage...

Don't sweat the petty stuff...and don't pet the sweaty stuff..

Also, give her a break.. Im a big Obama supporter and am ready to stand up with Hillary and the entire Democratic party and win this November!

[JoFerret]

11. poor little you

it IS all about you after all.

[bridgit]

36. now you can't leave out 'the clique', they're important too...

[LordJFT]

in most cases I agree with you

but this could be intentional, to build anticipation or something

[LordJFT]

12. in most cases I agree with you

but this could be intentional, to build anticipation or something

[terrya]

13. That's your BIGGEST pet peeve?

My boyfriend cheerfully admits that he's less than punctual...and hell, it's not a fucking dealbreaker to me.

Jeez. :eyes:

[matcom]

24. yup. has been all my life

if you are habitually late and don't bother to call we won't be friends for long

[Shakespeare]

16. Same here. It's incredibly rude.

And it's a career-long habit with the Clintons.

[Generic Brad]

17. This is blatantly disrespectful behaivior

My hopes that this will an actual concession/unity speech are evaporating with each passing moment.

[calmblueocean]

48. At this point, I'm wondering if her lateness is a backhanded slam at Obama.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it comes off to me that way right now.

[Generic Brad]

55. Sort of like her speech last Tuesday?

Absolutely it is a slam. A disrespectful, calculated, and blatant slam.

[tridim]

19. Yep, I've ended friendships because of chronic lateness.

It's so annoying dealing with people who believe time only affects them.

That said, I don't have much problem with Hillary being a bit late, unless she drags it out to a few more hours.

[Joe the Revelator]

20. Eh, I always run around 20 minutes late to everything, including work

luckly, I have an understanding boss.

[Tarheel_Dem]

64. Me too Wolsh. I've been fortunate to always have understanding bosses.

I even had my last boss tell my new boss to always expect me to arrive 15 minutes late, but probably be the last to leave. Some of us have a problem getting going, especially in the morning. It's been a lifelong problem of which I'm not very proud, but I don't know what to do about it.

[rucky]

85. Running on Texas time. n/t

[TahitiNut]

21. "I'm ready for my close-up, now, Mr. DeMille."

Melodrama queen. Poor Nell. "As a woman, it takes me longer to get ready." Self-centered, disrespectful crap.

[Stephanie]

30. Why do I always get the first question?

[TahitiNut]

39. The burdens she bears. So bad. So sad. So many railroad tracks; so few Dudley Dorights.

She's such an embarrassment.

[JohnnyLib2]

22. Think of it as one last opportunity for ---

targeting her rather than McCain.


Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.

[oldgrowth]

23. It's a media thing !!!! Cool off there all late !!

[harun]

25. Me too. I never make people wait, it is basically saying my time is

so much more important than your time that I don't have to worry about wasting yours.

[pdxmom]

26. Considering that there is a heat advisory in DC and that the heat

index there right now is 96, this is leaving her supporters in a really uncomfortable position. I've been in that building and it's not the best building for circulation and temperature control. I can understand being late if you have a previous engagement that runs long or get caught in traffic or whatever, but this is her one big thing for the day. It is rude to leave these people hanging out in those conditions. I'm assuming there are also people waiting outside the building, and it's even worse for them.

[Ichingcarpenter]

28. One of my pet peeves

with my friends who have a habit of doing that.


Also at Doctor's offices when they make an appointment
and then make you sit in the office for a half hour, then
put you in an examining room for another half hour.

[Mira]

29. I suspect she tied one on last night.

[Pathwalker]

32. Mine is men who leave the toilet seat up. Insulting!

But even worse is when they DON'T put it up and piss all over it, then leave their mess. Gross!
:rofl:

[matcom]

33. i leave BOTH lids down

my pee runs off the sides. it's all good

[Pathwalker]

40. Eeeewww! Not so good for the person who cleans up after you, though.

Bet the flies love it. ;-) Have a nice day, matcom. :hi:

[Beregond2]

46. I've never understood this.

What kind of an idiot sits on a toilet without looking at it first? Why is it any more work for a woman to put the seat down than for a man to raise it? Personally, I always put the seat AND the lid down, so it's not an issue. Or is that mean, because the woman has to raise the lid?

[Pathwalker]

57. Crikey - it was a JOKE! And, since I live in the same house with three males -

I always look. But having to disinfect the seat six times a day can get tiresome, especially in the middle of the night! Personally, I just think some males have terrible aim. To me, it's all about keeping the seat clean FOR OTHERS. But, I was really just making a silly joke about pet peeves.

[Beregond2]

88. I wasn't serious either. :)

And if you are talking about not raising the seat before peeing, I am with you all the way! Nothing grosser than sitting on a wet seat.

[DS1]

35. M R E! M R E!

That's what they're chanting, right?

[matcom]

37. chicken a la king?

:puke:

[DS1]

45. ham slice with a full bottle of tabasco, baby!

[AngryOldDem]

38. It sure as hell is.

It looks like the museum is packed, and I'm sure that it is hot as hell.

Unless something unexpected came up, you should be on time for these things. And if there is a reason, for fuck's sake -- someone get the word out with a new ETA.

Just common courtesy. But I'm not the least bit surprised at this. It seems like every "major event" has to draw out the drama as far as it will go.

[TahitiNut]

52. When one treats human beings as a means to an end instead of an end in themselves ...

... we see this kind of disprespect and lack of empathy and consideration.

I'm a "tardyphobe" ... I DETEST being late. I detest "doing an OJ" at the airport. I detest causing others to wait for me. I detest pushing through traffic to make up time. It's dangerous. It's poor planning. It's poor personal management. When I make agreements, I keep them! It's a matter of integrity. I arrive for appointments ON TIME. If I'm "warehoused" in a doctor's, dentist's, lawyer's, or other person's office for more than 15 minutes, I make the offensiveness known and rarely return. I tend to make appointments for a time that's first thing in the morning or first thing after lunch, in order to make the maximum opportunity for timeliness.

I'd rather arrive early and wait, relaxed, than cut it close. I always make enough time to "smell the roses."

[AngryOldDem]

62. You could be my twin.

I see little or no excuse ever for being late. And if I am, I call ahead and let those who are expecting me know, and when I see them, I again apologize.

Tardiness is a huge pet peeve of mine. And as you say, tardiness increases chances of even more stuff going wrong because now you're in a rush mode. Just allow yourself plenty of time -- pretty simple from where I sit.

[TahitiNut]

72. Yup. It's both pragmatic and deontological.

There are always consequences to poor plannning AND promises should be kept. I see no ethical 'salvation' in habitual tardiness. Yes, shit happens. Knowing that, we can prepare for it and leave time to overcome it.

[ecstatic]

41. I did lose about 45 minutes of sleep

This better be an awesome 20 minutes of fireworks!

[undeterred]

42. I was waiting for this post all morning and IT WAS LATE

DAMMIT! :nuke:

[DS1]

47. This is becoming VERY difficult to fap to

:grr:

[wvbygod]

50. I'm insulted

I expected you to complain much earlier.

[stevedeshazer]

51. I could not agree more. It's a major insult and a huge waste of time.

Self-indulgent bullshit.

[DenverDem23]

53. She's ONLY 45 minutes late!

I wonder what kept her so long...just wonder.

[davsand]

56. Yeah, I have to admit I am buttwound about punctuality too.

Can't help it--it makes me screamingly nuts to be late for anything.

It also pisses me off to have to wait for somebody who is late. I'm tolerable for a couple of minutes past the arrival time, but much more than about five minutes and I honestly am probably better off to just go home or go ahead without the late person. It is disrespectful and just bad form.

Pols are often late while on the campaign trail and I have seen how it happens--everybody wants a bit of time with the candidate. Seems to me that being late is almost a failure of the campaign staff because they didn't build time into the schedule for "pressing the flesh."

YMMV.


Laura

[Generator]

58. She has a rare talent of pissing me off with everything she does

I thought only my husband was capable of that.

[DS1]

70. heheh

:spray:

[Carolina]

60. I can accept being late for campaign events where

post-speech handshaking at one site can slow things down, but there is no reason for being late this morning!

It reeks of more grandstanding.

[Lex]

65. Michele Obama was way late for a rally here

and I didn't get my panties in a twist.

It happens.

[matcom]

66. would have pissed ME off

[JoFerret]

68. Worth waiting for though. Right?

I am sure you agree this is a brilliant speech.

[hokies4ever]

69. Just politicians building momentum for themselves

Just a tactical decision. Nothing wrong in my opinion.

[alteredstate]

71. Who cares?

Senator Clinton united our party today.

[matcom]

73. yes she did. now what is your point?

:shrug:

[joshcryer]

79. That there's a reason you have 55k posts.

Little substance. Completely worthless.

[matcom]

82. BBWWWAAAAHHHHAAAA

:rofl:

been here a lot of years 'friend'. SOME of those posts might actually have been organizing and protesting unjust wars, volunteering for Democratic campaigns and general other causes

you=idiot

[Chulanowa]

74. Oh, chill

Her supporters at the rally didn't mind, and those of us watching on TV lost nothing that we weren't losing anyway. I'm certain there was a decent reason for the delay - I imagine today might be one of the busiest days she's had since announcing her candidacy.

[Clear Blue Sky]

76. It's rude.

Can't blame in on the traffic when you arrive in a motorcade.

[MonkeyFunk]

80. Huh...

my biggest pet peeve are petty assholes who bitch about anything and everything.

[terrya]

81. Hell I think it was well worth the wait.

But that's just me.

[jonnyblitz]

83. it's one of mine also, ESPECIALLY since I am so anal about

ME being ontime for stuff, often times arriving near my destination early and waiting around.
Her husband, Bill, was notorious for always being late also,if I remember correctly.

[Raine]

84. It's a peeve of mine too

one of the talking heads said that it was SOP for the Clintons, that they'd even been that way in WH days. I can excuse politicians cause shit does happen and they et thrown off schedule. Just saying though that in my RL I get really pissed when people are continually late and stealing my time.

[Muttocracy]

87. I wonder how the world functioned before wristwatches and cell phones.

I think you'll have to be more tolerant of tardiness if you ever travel or work in parts of the world without the type-A-American attitude toward time.

[1awake]

90. Sorry I'm late to this thread.. what I miss?? n/t

[blondeatlast]

91. *snort*

:thumbsup:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

92. Is 45 minutes late?

Baaa baaaa baaaa