I kinda feel sorry for Hillary...kinda

[redstate_democrat]

She just found out (maybe) that Big Dog was having an affair with Gina Gershon, and possibly many many more. She just lost her bid to be president...and a lot of the blame can be directed at Big Dog. It was as if he was intentionally trying to sabotage her.

What I don't get is why has she stayed with him this long? She is supposed to be this strong woman, yet, gawd knows how many women he has cheated on her with. We know of at least 4 women now. Multiply that by a hundred and you have your number. Why can't this man just keep his zipper zipped? What is his problem? Does he have some kind of sexual addiction? I can understand staying until the kid is out of the house off to college, but what's the point now? Chelsea is a grown woman. Why should she stay with him? I understand love but I must wonder if Bill loves her more than he loves himself. He seems to be madly in love with himself, his own desires, his persona. I can't see how she puts up with him. This is why I feel sorry for her. She did everything for Bill to get to the point to where she could be president. It's almost like she was investing in him for her own political future. He, of course, took it all and then just didn't care about what his reputation and actions could do to her. Now after giving her all into him, instead of herself, he is part of the reason why she will not be president. But on the other hand, people say she wouldn't have gotten this far if not for Bill. You can also say Bill wouldn't have gotten where he was if not for Hillary.

It's sad all around. I feel kinda bad for her. But then I think about how she tried to exploit the fears of people during the primary and then I don't really feel that bad anymore. She knows Bill is a dog and she has made a conscious decision to stay with him, be it for political reasons or other. She's gonna stick it out.

[mcctatas]

1. Oh please...

Hillary is no shrinking violet, the gina gershon thing is rumor and innuendo at best and the one I feel sorry for is Bill, if he fucked up then I hope she makes him pay, not in the full bobbit kind of way, but slowly and subtly every day for the rest of his life!

[sandnsea]

3. Oh bullshit, kick him to the curb

claim her dignity and shine. It's not too late for her to stand on her own. Look at Tina Turner. That's how you make a man pay for the rest of his life.

[mcctatas]

7. I guess I have a mean streak a mile wide...

I told my husband before we got married that if he ever cheated on me etc. I wouldn't divorce him or kill him, I'd just make him wish I had. Of course that's what my grandma did and at my grandpas funeral I thought she was crying so I walked over to her to console her, she grabs my hand, looks up at me with tears in her eyes and says "I did it, I outlived the son of a bitch", apparently they were tears of joy;)

[VolcanoJen]

21. Your grandma sounds AWESOME!

:rofl:

[redstate_democrat]

5. and if any woman can make someone die a slow and agonizing death

then it is Hillary.

SHAME ON YOU BILL!

[sandnsea]

2. I hope she dumps his ass

and goes back to the Senate and helps John Kerry and Russ Feingold kick the shit out of the Republicans and get us out of this damn war. She's got it in her, she's just gotten some damn lousy advise the last ten years. If she does that, then I'm behind her 110%.

[FlyingSquirrel]

6. I second that.

eom (and probably IBTL)

[redstate_democrat]

24. Well, if she kicks some repug ass in the senate, then she can be my homegirl again.

She does need to kick Bill to the curb. He has been nothing but a total ass to her for the past two decades.

[cynatnite]

4. Their marriage and Bill's penis is none of your business...

:eyes:

[redstate_democrat]

8. Bill's penis was a matter of national import in 1998. We had to suffer through a trauma

because of his penis. It was stupid back then b/c the Repugs were using a personal matter to try to unseat a president, but he STILL HAS NOT LEARNED and his penis keeps popping back up on the national scene. Hell, America is on a first name basis with Bill's penis. We are TIRED of Bill's penis. My OP was about Hillary and her unyielding devotion to such a creep.

[cynatnite]

12. That's fucking RW bullshit...

The repukes pulled that crap out in order to impeach. No matter what he did with his penis...it did not hurt his job performance which should be all that matters. Hell, the American people didn't even care. Just the idiot repukes who were trying to force him out of office.

The repukes think that what goes on between consenting adults in the privacy of a bedroom is their business. Don't be them.

Quit using the repuke talking points and move on. It was none of our business then and it's definitely none of our business now.

You should be a little more creative in your dislike of Bill on things such as 'Don't ask, don't tell', NAFTA or a dozen other issues. His affairs are a really lame excuse for anyone who claims to be a progressive.

[redstate_democrat]

17. I know they used Bill's penis to try to impeach him.

Matter of fact, I have an even DEEPER belief of why they did so. The same day the Monica story broke on Drudge was the same day PNAC sent Bill that letter encouraging him to take a tougher stance on Iraq. They were holding it over his head. But that is just my nutty conclusion.

Anyway, I don't think personal matters are relevant as far as job performance goes. But the articles of impeachment didn't say "Bill Clinton got a blow job in the Oval Office therefore we must impeach". It said perjury and obstruction of justice. After the round of bombings on Iraq that fall, the senate acquitted him in January.

Go figure.

[sandnsea]

19. The recent primary aside

right wing witch hunts aside...

It is against the law for a boss to sexually harrass an employee. If any other man had used his professional seniority to have sex with a young intern, womens' groups would have been calling for his head. Hillary was sure on board just because Imus called girls "ho". Bill had sex with young entry level employees, repeatedly, and women just gave him a pass. It was one thing to defend him during the impeachment, but I don't have to defend that shit anymore.

[Divernan]

26. "popping up" ? In his dreams.

The human body comprises of 96,000 kilometers of blood vessels. When a person is booked for coronary bypass surgery he also has blockages in the entire system. This is especially marked in the vessels supplying blood to:

1) The brain, resulting in blackouts/vertigo
2) The kidneys, leading to deterioration or worse
3) Ankles and feet (intermittent claudication)
4) The genitals, causing impotence/fridigity.


Circulation is impaired throughout the entire 96.000 kms of bloodline in the human body.

[Runcible Spoon]

9. Oh please. Hillary and Bill are more like a Corporate Partnership than a Marriage.

Their relationship is purely one of mutual convenience for political and financial gain. Maybe at one point they were in love, but it is now money and power that gets them off.

If she's mad with him now, I doubt it has to do with cheating and is most likely because of his toxic transformation into a raving lunatic and its detrimental effect on her campaign. They both deserve to be taken down a few notches and spend the next few years living off some humble pie....

[redstate_democrat]

10. What a sad and pathetic existence.

I used to really like Bill and Hillary, too. Now I can just barely tolerate them.

[cynatnite]

13. You don't know that...you're making an uneducated guess n/t

[Runcible Spoon]

25. I guess reading and watching months of election coverage doesn't qualify me for having opinion

Of course, I don't know what they do behind closed doors but their public personas ALONE provide more than enough information for me to make that kind of observation.

[blonndee]

36. So what if it is?

That's their business.

[PBS Poll-435]

11. Saving this thread

WTF?

[redstate_democrat]

14. What's wrong with my thread?

There was a recent VF article about my OP. If we can discuss every smear against Obama (see Larry Johnson) then we can definitely discuss this since, in fact, Hillary has lost but has not yet conceded. Until she concedes at noon she is still a candidate.

[sandnsea]

16. It's politically incorrect

to express disgust at a strong, financially independent woman letting a man abuse her by cheating on her at every turn.

[redstate_democrat]

23. Only when that woman is Hillary.

nt

[PBS Poll-435]

33. Nah...

Now that she has displayed the woman that I knew she was...

And the lady that I knew she could be.

Thank you Hillary Clinton.

[mcctatas]

15. In the spirit of unity...

maybe you should change your sig line, I am not a plant, unless it's a bougainvillea

[redstate_democrat]

18. My bad. I thought you were talking to me.

[mcctatas]

20. Dial it back a click...

I was talking about the above posters sig line "Obama STILL has got what plants crave. And he STILL has electrolytes."....

[redstate_democrat]

22. lol. I know I just noticed that. My bad.

[smiley_glad_hands]

27. Not my place to judge her for bill.

Lets leave the clenis talk to FR.

GOBAMA.

[MrSlayer]

28. I'm with Chris Rock on this.

In my opinion they have a marriage of convenience. When Monica went down to do Bill, Hillary should have already been there. "Hold a ball or something, I've got the dick."

Clips here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmLSvtpmT3M&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEI9IXj0yME

[Eurobabe]

34. ...

:spray:

[StevieM]

29. I feel sorry for you for being so hateful. And the accusation that she exploited poeple's fears

is a false narrative. She won her voters by appealing to our hopes and dreams. That hateful narrative is why Obama is having problems with her voters.

Steve

[izzie]

30. I do not feel sorry for her. And do re-call that being wed is a

contract between to people, with the state mixed in, and every one looks at the set up from their own view. Looks to me like this is the deal they signed up for and are happy with it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. I Have A Serious Question

What do you say about other Democratic presidents who have had affairs; even with subordinates?

[cboy4]

32. How about Obama fans worry about Obama, rather than

psychoanalyze the woman of which all of you have expressed you hate for so many months.

It never stops.

[blonndee]

35. I'm sorry, but that is her business.

[question everything]

37. Are you married?

Some day, when you grow up, you will find out that each marriage is different. One cannot measure someone else's marriage by any criteria.