Harold Ford gives Obama advice..."meet them where they work, play and pray."

[madfloridian]

I really think Barack Obama can handle his own campaign very well, thank you, Harold Ford. He has done a magnificent job with a great campaign team. What he does not need is advice from the chairman of a think tank, the DLC, that lost the last few elections for us.

He doesn't need advice from a man I heard was praising John McCain's campaign last week. He does not need advice from someone who sounds like a Republican on TV.

Newsweek:

Harold Ford's advice to Obama

Now he's got to get off the big stage more often and meet with people where they work, play and pray. That means getting out to schools and factories, coffee shops, fairgrounds and houses of worship. He needs to earn their trust.

Ford really needs to rethink what he is doing giving advice to the presumptive nominee. His comments are nice, but they are not needed now.

I have not forgotten the trashing Harold Ford gave to our DNC chairman on Imus in the morning in 2005. It was a vicious attack on Dean's religious faith, which is none of Ford's business.

Ford criticizes Dean's faith

Ford tells Imus he might ask Dean to resign.

June 9, 2005
Imus: "On another note here, speaking of the Democratic Party, which you are a member of, how's Howard Dean working for you?"

Rep. Harold Ford Jr.: "(Laughing) I won't have him down so many times in Tennessee on the campaign trail with me. He has made some comments as of late that really speak to a lack of understanding I think, of the country, a lack of understanding of faith and values. I'm a Democrat and I'm a God fearing one. I grew up in church..... I look forward to having a chance to sit with him here in the next day or so. I think he's going to be here in Capitol Hill a little later today to meet with us. I want to ask him directly. Can he contain himself in a lot of ways, and what is his thought process in a lot of these issues because it is not representative of where the party is."

Funny how that is just not true.

I believe Carville implicated the Clintons and Rahm Emanuel when he reiterated his wish that Harold Ford replace Howard Dean at the DNC because we did not win enough congressional seats...a statement just plain stupid on the face of it.

Carville says others knew of his attack on Dean and did not ask him to stop

Carville tells me, further pounding the wedge that divides the Deaniacs and the Clintonites. When I ask if Rahm agrees, Carville says, “It’s not any secret that Rahm has expressed disdain for Dean and not very secret that Rahm and I are close. It doesn’t take a lot of dot-connecting here.”

What about the Clintons, who, given Hillary’s presidential ambitions, have more cause for concern about who runs the DNC in 2008? “Let’s just say nobody has called me telling me this is a bad idea. Sometimes silence is eloquence.” Not only did Carville’s coup fail but it arguably strengthened Dean, who, speaking before his state-party allies, mocked the attempt as a desperate attack from the “old Democratic Party.” Cutting his losses, Rahm quickly leaked word to the press that he and Dean had negotiated a truce.

I get nervous seeing James Carville on TV since his tirades against Dean in 06. He called Dean's chairmanship "Rumsfeldian in its competence". He said Dean had turned the DNC into a "cult".

Since he specifically mentioned Harold Ford as the replacement, and not long after that Ford became chair of the DLC...I am still upset over Carville's use of Ford's name.

I am glad Obama is asking Dean to stay on, and I am glad he accepted. Dean might find the job too political later, but for now it is a great team.

Harold Ford needs to take his think tank and tend to his own business.

[scheming daemons]

1. What the hell does Harold Ford Jr. know? He's a DLC "DINO" who LOST his last race...

He's Lanny Davis with a tan.

[butterfly77]

77. Exactly..

[wyldwolf]

90. A black man in TN who lost by a small percentage based on racist ads..

I think you've been brainwashed a bit by the angry left - the true DINOs.

[lojasmo]

104. A party hack of epic measure.

Ford and Carville can both fuck off.

[wyldwolf]

112. exactly how I would expect you to reply.

Irrelevance.

[lojasmo]

117. Who gives a fuck?

In an Obama administration, Ford and Carville won't be able to buy relevance.

[wyldwolf]

118. ha ha. Another one

And your final head exploding picture... from just last week...

[amandabeech]

123. Those commercials were incredibly vicious racist attacks.

Ford might not play in NY or California, but I thought that he fits a moderate to conservative Dem state well.

[invictus]

107. Exactly!

n/t

[FrenchieCat]

2. Harold Ford can kiss my High Yellow Ass....

That is all I have to say about him.

[Catherina]

7. High Yellow Ass too?

:rofl: He can kiss mine right afterwards.

[Carolina]

102. make mine three

I can't stand that DINO/DLC douche bag.

Who the hell is he to give Obanma advice. Seems Obama has done just fine without "call me, Harold."

[jasmine621]

9. This is exactly the kind of reaction and behavior that is going to ruin

it for Obama in Nov. Just because a person did not or does not support Obama does not make that person a bad person who warrants the kind of disrespect and demonizing that goes on here from Obama supporters. It is so sad that there can be no dissent or debate here without ignorant rantings.

[FrenchieCat]

15. Harold Ford praised McCain's speech on the day that Obama

won the Nomination.

Sorry, Harold Ford's timing sucks....which is why I offer him my ass cheeks.

[madfloridian]

19. You got it, Frenchie Cat.

:rofl:

[Carolina]

103. Exactly

'nuff said.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

113. The only person in the country that praised it.

Ford, Jr. is what we're fighting against. :thumbsdown:

[RazBerryBeret]

17. but it goes to reason

that if he knew the path to election, he would've won his.
I know it was blocked by racism, but I don't think he has much credibility to criticize of give advice.

it's like me telling Obama what he should do to win..ok, I've done that a couple time, in the privacy of my own home, while I'm yelling at the TV.... but that's beside he point....

[Binka]

30. Jaysus How Old Are You? Hyperbole Much?

You stuff is tiresome. My seven year old has more common sense.

[Chan790]

59. Well...

as much as I don't usually venture into GD: P...in my case, it was an inversive relationship. I did not support HRC because she surrounded herself with advisors and surrogates who I think to be scummy people and/or whose conduct during the primaries led me to that conclusion:

Mark Penn
Harold Ickes
Terry McAuliffe
Harold Ford
Gerry Ferraro (Honestly, I don't care about who she was...based on who she is now, she's a racist and there is no room in this party for her anymore.)

If HRC had won, I'd have held my nose to avoid the stink of her campaign and voted for her. Her personally I liked, just less than the four people I preferred over her...the rest of her staff I hope spends the rest of their careers in Abbaddon. Now that she's lost, I feel no compunction in saying that they were a cause and she deserved this outcome for not jettisoning them months ago. I criticized all of these people well before they were on Hillary's campaign, and I'm not going to stop now that she's lost. You know how mean-spirited and rude Obama supporters can get here in GD: P? That's these jerks off in the real world where it matters.

It is our duty as Democrats to call anybody attacking our nominee or our party on their bullshit. Harold Ford and James Carville opened themselves up for this criticism when they decided to wage a war to force Howard Dean into resignation. Politics isn't boxing, no referee is going to step-in and save them (nor should one); it's a bloodsport and now that they are on the canvas...I have no problem with wailing on them until they are politically-dead.

[Heather MC]

13. He can Kiss my High Brown one!

[cynatnite]

3. Everyone is an armchair campaign strategist who thinks they can do better n/t

[wyldwolf]

91. including the OP

[Hutzpa]

93. You two seem to be in the know

for Harold Ford, why don't you folks find a room and gather there to plot
his joining of the McCain's 'straight talk express' he has already started,
why stop there.

Harold is the only one that praised McCain's lackluster speech, if he so
loves McCain, why not join him and stop wasting everyone's time and energy.

[grantcart]

4. I am sure it must have been big news but I missed Obama asking and Dean agreeing

to stay on as Chairman - when did that happen?

[madfloridian]

5. Yesterday.

Obama is boss of the party now, especially the DNC. Dean was asked to stay on and the DNC was asked to take no more lobbyists money just like the Obama campaign. Obama has put a couple of his people there to represent his interests.

Here you go, great front page at the DNC.

http://dnc.org/

I read the day before that about the state chairs fighting to keep Dean on. I figured they would.

[Cha]

74. And, Dean has agreed to stay?!

This is so incredible for all of us, mad:D!

[madfloridian]

16. Here you go...good write up at The Nation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080605/cm_thenation/45327056

[grantcart]

24. was there an OP on it -- if not you should

[madfloridian]

Oh, yeah, you must not have been around yesterday. There was lots of stuff.

:hi:

[madfloridian]

26. Dang, another dupe.

[Cha]

75. Excellent article, mad..

"Dean pioneered, Obama perfected it."

[madfloridian]

88. Yes, it was a good article.

I found a better one, and lost the link.

[LordJFT]

6. The DLC thinks it has the credibility to be giving that kind of advice at this point?

that is too funny

[Cha]

78. ford just wants to feel like he's

relevant..I see no other explanation for giving unsolicited advice from a mccain lover.

[dchill]

8. Mr. Harold Ford, of Tennessee, is a dufus.

I mean no disrespect. Okay - I do.

[guruoo]

38. Ford's a real piece of work....

During the Tennessee Senate primary, in his race against Montgomery County native
State Senator Rosalind Kurita, Ford went so far as to hire two Greyhound busses
to haul campaign workers from Memphis to Clarksville for the purpose of stuffing
the ballot box of the straw poll held at the annual Montgomery County Dem's Labor Day celebration.

[Tippy]

47. I didn't know this but not one bit suprised...Uncle John probably told him how to do it....

[Catherina]

10. The arrogance Harold, the arrogance. You're in no position to give the most

popular man in America right now any advice. Now crawl back under your rock.

[Binka]

32. Amen! Sorry I Missed Your Calls My Cell Is Fucking Possessed.

Verizon promised it would be fixed tomorrow. :loveya: GOBAMA! Peyton has a picture of him over her bed. We printed it out last night. It is the one with all the hands reaching out to him. She said in all of her Peyton wisdom "Mom, so many hands reaching out to him, he must have some special juice." We gotta love the Peytapus!

[Catherina]

42. Here's a better one for my darling

Love the Peytapus! And you too. Please call anytime that works for you so we can get together. I'll be home cooking all day tomorrow except for a quick meeting from 4-6.

Here's for my sweetie. It should make her smile. Give me a day or two and I'll photoshop her next to Obama. She should LOVE that!



:hug:

[madfloridian]

84. Beautiful picture.

Wow.

[redstate_democrat]

11. He is a jackass. What does he know? He couldn't even win a senate seat in the state he is from

and was a Representative of. Obama is running for PRESIDENT and had won his senate seat with 70% of the vote. His candidate, Hillary Clinton, blew her shot at the presidency because of incompetent fools like him behind her and stupid gaffes and poor planning. He needed to give Hillary some of that "sage" advice. Give me a break.

[ampad]

12. How did that praying pandering work out for you Harold?

remember the pretty white girl that wanted you to "call her" The GOP roasted his ass and no amount of praying was gonna help. :rofl:

Edit to add more context.

[Tippy]

57. To be honest.. it did help...One day when he was here in our town he went to several very small

churches...these people helped when the playboy bunny thing came out people...the ad did what it intended, highlighted the race issue, but race was a big issue for many of Tennessens, and he was not going to get their vote anyway, but he didn't lose these small groups....

[Renaissance Man]

14. Seriously.

I want people who allowed the Democratic Party to be punked like pussies over the last eight years to shut the fuck up and try to become Progressives, for once in their lives.

If this thing is about a thirst and lust for power, the DLC should just transition into the Republicans they really want to be and go suck off McSenile.

[OzarkDem]

18. Well most of the factories are closed....

Guess he could stand outside McDonalds' at the shift change :shrug:

[amandabeech]

126. Yeah, I like that.

Usually there's a whole lineup of low-wage employers. Those are good jobs, once all the manufacturing gets sent to no-EPA, no Fair Labor Standards Act, no OSHA, no FDA places! Isn't is great to buy all that stuff cheap!

First McD's, then BK, then Walmart, then, later, Best Buy and Home Depot.

Oh, I forget, Home Depot's having trouble 'cause folks working in McD's are losing their homes and don't have money to put in all those cheap new bathtubs.

OOPS!

[bullwinkle428]

20. Harold Ford is a friend to Obama the way Mark Penn was to Hillary...

hopefully, he's not paying a dime for advice from Ford!

[FrenchieCat]

21. Harold doesn't even have a sense of humor........

I never see him smile. He seems overwrought and calculating. The exact opposite of Barack.

He's just jealous. Poor thang!

[ampad]

22. Yea he is Jealous

You can practically see the jealousy oozing out of his swarmy ass on MSNBC.

[butterfly77]

79. And when he does smile..

it is usually fake and phony. Your other thoughts are right on point..

[Carolina]

105. you nailed it ,Frenchie

Harold is so fucking jealous he could shit a brick and spit nails!

[madfloridian]

23. This article is front and center on the DLC website.

http://dlc.org/

[Tippy]

48. Recon Harold and Hillary went to the same finger pointing coach?????

[madfloridian]

65. Interesting "point" you made.

:evilgrin:

[goclark]

25. Harold, you need to look in the mirror

and figure out how you lost and stop giving tips,

[PBS Poll-435]

27. Can all three happen at a "Strip"-club?

[Tatiana]

28. My hatred for this ass-kisser approaches visceral hatred.

He's arrogant. He's not that smart. And he's very jealous of Barack Obama.

We really dodged a bullet with him not being able to backstab his way into being leader of the DNC.

This man stands for nothing. There were high hopes for him. His father must be so ashamed.

His strategy for everything is "don't make the Republicans mad."

He can kiss my caramel ass.

[Catherine Vincent]

29. I don't care much for Harold Ford either but I don't get all the hatred toward him.

He's still a Democrat. Some of you folks need to get a grip.

[madfloridian]

31. I don't care for him because he thinks he judges the faith of others.

He thought he was so important he could just tell Dean to step down. Just like Carville did. He is arrogant about his faith. He judges others, and he should not.

[ampad]

34. And...

So he is a Democrat what are we now lock step repigs? I'm a liberal first that happens to votes strait Dem and last time I checked the only idiots that took up for every one of their own were repgis. The beauty of being a liberal is being able to be a free thinker. I don't follow lockstep therefore there are some Democrats that I don't care for and for good reason. Harold Ford can stick it. His praising of McCain was the last straw for me but of course I'm sure as a Hilly supporter you think that is acceptable. It's the new thing now for Dems to praise Mcinsane, it's all the rage.

[Binka]

37. Grip Is Fine. Not Hatred Just Contempt.

Different words, different meanings.Contempt means angry disgust NOT hate. Grip a dictionary.

[Elidor]

98. A democrat?

1. Voted for the Iraq invasion
   
2. Voted for the bankruptcy bill
   
3. Against same-sex marriage
   
4. Against benefits for same-sex couples
   
5. Pro-life, and in favor of restrictions on abortion
   
6. Supported the Republican effort to intercede in the Terri Schiavo case
   
7. Criticized Senate dems who attempted to filibuster Alito
   

We don't need any more Lieberman democrats.

[Carolina]

106. really? a DINO who praises McCain

hmmm. Having a D beside your name doesn't mean you're a Democrat any more. We have some sorry ass sellouts that need to be purged from the party.

[CreekDog]

33. "...and be a tool"

:rofl:

take his advice with a grain of salt. :hi:

[jgraz]

35. Why the hell is Indiana Jones giving advice to Obama???

Oh.. HAROLD Ford...

nevermind.

[Zomby Woof]

36. Ford's one of the biggest crooks in TN politics

Always has been, and so is his family. Long before the DLC, the entire Ford dynasty has been as slimy as it gets. He and Fred Thompson should be business partners. It would be a great fit for both.

[my3boyz]

43. My mom lives in Memphis and she is always talking about what a bunch

of crooks the Ford family is. Then she said when one of them quits (for legal reasons or whatever) another one that she has never heard of pops out of the blue to try to get the position.

[Raineyb]

86. Has Harold Ford ever had an honest job?

Or did he buy/sleeze whatever his way into some political job right out of college?

Regards

[smiley_glad_hands]

39. Thanks for all your hard work Mad. Without you we may have lost the Fl/MI argument here at DU.

Though you always had the truth on your side.

[Moloch]

40. Harold Ford is a LOSER

Obama will do just fine without his advice.

[muryan]

41. Not a Harold Ford fan

But on this small point, he's right. GM is shutting down 4 plants in the great lakes region, and one of them being in Dayton, OH. If he stopped in the place for 15 minutes, told the workers who are about to lose their jobs that he would make sure to do everything in his power to stop these kind of massive layoffs, he would be the best friend of just about every union member in the state.

[BklynChick]

44. can't stand Harold Ford and I certainly don't think Obama needs advice from him

[depakid]

45. Why is that bad advice?

I don't care for Ford, but I don't see anything wrong with what he said- sounds like good GE tactics to me.

[Tippy]

50. Obama started out going to these smaller events as the number of people increased

and more requests came in the venues became larger, and larger...Harold did campaign that way he went to some...did it help? yes but not enough.

[depakid]

53. Prior to the Obama rally, Kerry's 2004 rally was the largest in Portland History

yet he didn't increase his percentage over Gore in Oregon, once the 2000 Green votes were factored in.

What that tells me is that huge rallies by themselves aren't the answer, either.

[WinkyDink]

56. Because it's superfluous and assumes Obama doesn't already KNOW and DO this.

[madfloridian]

60. Not bad advice, but he is not the one...

in the minds of many to give such advice.

[workinclasszero]

46. Harold Ford STFU

Who the hell does this clown think he is?

[AllentownJake]

49. Harold

I think David Axelrod and Ploufe know what they are doing so we'll file your advice where appropriate.

[barack the house]

51. Ford is right on this one it is how HRC did it in Puerto Rico.

[madfloridian]

89. I get uneasy when I see the DLC butting in. Sorry, but I do.

They already control the policy of the party, and I guess they are going to keep on.

[pdxmom]

52. Isn't it amazing that so many political losers then go on to become

"expert" commentators in the MSM? If they really knew what was best for a candidate, wouldn't they be in office?

[YDogg]

54. Harold Ford had quite the visibility when Imus was on the air. Not as much, lately.

Don't miss him.

[WinkyDink]

55. Gee, can I get paid too, to state the completely obvious?

[Bolo Boffin]

58. Harold Ford, Concern Troll

Win your own elections, Harold, and then we'll listen.

[rocktivity]

61. If Obama really wants to help himself

he'll dismantle Ford's DLC. He doesn't need any of their pipelines going into the oval office.

:headbang:
rocknation

[TwilightGardener]

62. WTF? Obama HAS been going out to schools, factories, churches--

he has been doing this since last year. How do people think he won Iowa? Jesus, I hate this stupid narrative that Obama only does big rallies.

[madfloridian]

66. Well, now you can figure where that narrative comes from.

I agree with you. Obama has run a great grassroots campaign.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

63. His Comments Are 100% Right.

Why you seem to be having such a problem with his saying them is a bit strange.

[butterfly77]

80. We have been watching this hypocrite liar for a while now...

[madfloridian]

85. Because it is not his place to advise Obama...because I find him offensive.

.

[wyldwolf]

101. I see people on DU "advising" Obama daily. Your OP, for example, does it.

[madfloridian]

115. You are back.

Goody.

[wyldwolf]

124. Thank you! Hey, look here:

And your final head exploding picture... from just last week...

[madfloridian]

127. I don't care for Harold Ford.

[fadedrose]

64. I'm with you on this 100% -

Harold Ford is a has-been in my opinion. It's like he abandoned his principles to get ahead on the back of the DLC.

I think Dean helped Obama more than anyone else both through the DNC and through his personal loss experience. They are both no fans of the DLC and Dean's personal popularity is a real advantage. Dean's support at DU is unquestionably very high.

I could stand Dean as Vice President very easily.

[ronnykmarshall]

67. Uh, OK.

Don't listen to him Barack.

[Hutzpa]

68. Who gives a FUCK what Harold Ford thinks

after pandering to the right and patronizing he still lost his
seat in the Senate.

Asswipe!!!

[sampsonblk]

69. Ford's presence, like that of someone else I know, ruins Obama's main theme

You can't change the way things are done by having Harold "say anything you gotta say" Ford on your team.

[politicasista]

70. Harold Who?

Been real dissapointed in him of late.

[knixphan]

71. Barack needs advice from Harold like he needs an asshole in his elbow

[Cha]

72. Oh, harold ford jr's of the "no more big speeches and big rallies"

school of thought. :wtf: does he think he's doing inserting his disingenuous advice into Obama's campaign strategy like he's worthy?

[rocktivity]

73. As head of the now presumitvely-defunct DLC, Harold Ford

YOU'RE the one who had better do some praying!

:headbang:
rocknation

[butterfly77]

76. Shut the hell up Harold...

YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT IN THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! Obama has more knowledge in his baby finger than you do,just SHUT THE HELL UP! I change the station when this asshole comes on...

[Kahuna]

81. Kahuna gives Harold advice. Dude! Buy a comb. I could play

connect the dots with those beads on your head.

[Liberal_Dog]

82. This Is One Ford That Definitely Belongs On The Scrap Heap

nt

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

83. I can't think of someone whose opinion I care about less. nt

[Geek_Girl]

87. Ford's a Loser, Obama would do well to ignore anything Ford had to say

nt

[wyldwolf]

92. A black man in TN who lost by a small percentage based on racist ads..

Is your contention anyone who loses their last race should be ignored?

[FredScuttle]

94. Anyone who regurgitates RW talking points and channels Joe-mentum should be ignored

n/t

[wyldwolf]

95. RW talking points? Like what?

Do tell. This should be good.

[FredScuttle]

96. Well, for starters

He gushed and swooned like a schoolgirl over McCain's godawful speech last Tuesday. He called it "amazing" and "powerful". Not even Faux News was shovelling that bullshit.

[wyldwolf]

97. uh... so?

He was in a role of an analyst. Wes Clark has done similar as an analyst on FOX. Barack Obama praised Reagan.

C'mon, answer the question. What rightwing talking point has he 'spewed?'

[FredScuttle]

99. OK....how about the OP?

He's framing it as if Obama is some elitist figurehead, floating from one gigantic event stage to another. He knows damn well Obama is doing the work on the ground, but feels the need to toss out this canard.

on edit: There is no excuse for any Democrat to gush praise on a speech by the GOP candidate that was universally regarded as awful.

[wyldwolf]

100. ok, what about it?

What's rightwing about it?

There is no excuse for any Democrat to gush praise on a speech by the GOP candidate that was universally regarded as awful.

That's your opinion. But it still doesn't make it a right wing talking point. So again...? Right wing talking point? Got any?

[FredScuttle]

109. Sigh

I've given you two RW talking points already and if you're going to be willfully obstinate, I can't help you.

Nevertheless, here are a few others:

1)Ford criticizes Nancy Pelosi for being too liberal: http://dir.salon.com/story/politics/feature/2002/11/09/pelosi_ford/index.html

2)Ford calls Howard Dean angry and out of control: http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2005/06/harold_ford_mis.html

3)Ford "doesn't know who's been right about the war": http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/08/09/harold-ford-doesnt-know-whos-been-right-about-this-war-all-along/

Not to mention:

- Ford supporting Joe Lieberman vs. Ned Lamont and stumping for Chris Shays
- Ford going on Faux News and, when Hannity attacked Harry Reid for "betraying the troops," Ford's only reply was "I don't associate with Harry Reid"
- He is, after all, the head of the DLC.

on edit: forgot one more thing

Harold Ford - loud and proud on opposing gay marriage: http://washblade.com/2007/1-19/view/columns/McCullom.cfm

[wyldwolf]

111. sigh

You've given me no right wing talking points because the term is not clearly defined.

So who defines it? You? The left wing of the party (clearly the least successful "wing" of the party electorally)?

Obama? Right wing talking points?

In a meeting with Chicago Tribune reporters at the Democratic National Convention, Obama said, “On Iraq, on paper, there's not as much difference, I think, between the Bush administration and a Kerry administration as there would have been a year ago. There's not much of a difference between my position and George Bush's position at this stage.” (Chicago Tribune, 07/27/04)

We can have dueling quotes all day. How about Ted Kennedy when backing Bush's "NCLB?"

You might do well to remember that no faction in the party has a monopoly on truth and what being a true Democrat is.

[FredScuttle]

121. I belong to the Democratic wing of the Democratic party

and DINOs like Ford best realize that this mythical "leftist radical" wing that he thinks is hijacking the party is actually the core constituents whose views dovetail quite firmly with how most Americans feel about the war, the economy, etc.

[wyldwolf]

122. "DINOS" - LOL!

Anyone who uses that term belongs to the self-centered and historically challenged wing of the party. You failed miserably in your attempt to define "right wing talking point." Care to try "DINO?"

[Carolina]

108. some people should just be dismissed

Harold, the poster who suppports him, the DLC and need I say...

[wyldwolf]

110. ":..and need I say..." You.

[Carolina]

116. was I talking to you

Shrillbot?!

[wyldwolf]

119. I was talking to you

netrot.

[Egnever]

114. Harold ford thought Mcsames leadership you can believe in speech

Was glorious! Harold ford can pound sand. His time is finished he is going to go the way of mcaulif done. We are through with the liars and the republican apeasers. This dudes reign of terror is over. He is lucky MSNBC is kind enough to throw a few bucks his way.

[Arkana]

120. Thank you, Mr. Ford.

Please let us know when you plan to lose your next campaign.

Now kindly fuck the fuck off.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

125. I guess Ford wants him to win 500 EVs instead of merely 400