Dianne Feinstein's "popular vote" comment AFTER the Obama-Clinton meeting was ominous

[grassfed]

The popular vote angle is a canard that only serves to delegitimize Obama and whip up Hillary's base. It undermines all the hype about Democratic Party leaders stepping in to unify the party.

And if future behavior can be surmised by past actions (Hillary's), anything is possible tomorrow.


Poll_Blind posted (thanks):
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/06/feinstein-pushi.html

Feinstein pushing fake popular vote meme...or not?

After the meeting, Feinstein who has in the past pushed Obama to select Clinton as veep, seemed to push the false claim that Clinton had won the "popular vote."

People, particularly in this case because Hillary represents a very large bloc of voters — the largest ever for anybody that has come in No. 2, and has the popular vote.

Either way, by even talking about the popular vote argument, Feinstein is using a dishonest, misleading metric -- as I've said many times, you can't simply add together the results of different contests in different states run under different rules. Doing so unfairly penalizes states with caucuses or closed primaries.

So even if Feinstein recognizes that Clinton didn't win the popular vote, by using that fake metric she's reopening a wound from the nomination process when we should be trying to heal.

[bunnies]

1. It would be WAY cooler if you supplied the "popular vote comment"

Just sayin.

[Kittycat]

4. Second that.

[grassfed]

6. Saw it on Hardball and heard it on Rachel Maddows radio

Interviewed after the Obama-Clinton meeting at Feinstein's house, Feinstein said "Hillary had more popular votes". I'll look for exact quote.

[bunnies]

9. hmm. DiFi hearts Hillary. Why am I not surprised. nt

[roseBudd]

10. It was on NYTimes early this afternoon as a quote... story appears updated without that quote or

I just can't find the same story because it was on my work computer.

[Arrowhead2k1]

2. What she say?

[Cha]

3. Diane better watch her

dinoness.

[CreekDog]

5. and it was Dianne Feinstein, should we expect anything less?

no. :eyes:

[me b zola]

7. DiFi's comments about the meeting seemed to focus on the convention

Who will be credentialed and so on.

Hill :thumbsdown:

[MadBadger]

8. Here is the quote

Mrs. Feinstein said she did not need to urge Mrs. Clinton to hold a meeting. “I didn’t urge anybody to do anything. I know it’s a natural instinct. People, particularly in this case because Hillary represents a very large bloc of voters — the largest ever for anybody that has come in No. 2, and has the popular vote.She is I think desirous of protecting the issues that she cares about to the extent she can, seeing that the people are represented in this administration and certainly in the convention. And also to help with the ticket, and I know she feels that way because we have talked about this.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/the-obama-clinton-meeting/?hp

[BeyondGeography]

12. Sounds like chez Feinstein is HillShill Central

and DiFi is a dumbass for pushing that line.

[bunnies]

13. Fuck DiFi. Unity my ASS! That is all. nt

[grassfed]

14. She repeated it with more emphasis on winning the Popular Vote on camera

Hardball today

[roseBudd]

16. I'm starting to have Bride of Chuckie nightmares

[grassfed]

18. what took you so long?

[OzarkDem]

17. "She represents the largest bloc of voters

for any candidate who has come in No. 2."

They voted for her for good reasons and if Obama is going to win, he needs to support the issues they feel are important if he's going to get their vote in the GE. Its pretty common sense.

[merh]

19. Just another sad example of how members of congress fail

to verify the information given to them - it's got to be true cause that is what hillary says. :freak:

Hillary did not win the popular vote.

[Hansel]

26. "Hillary represents a very large bloc of voters" ?

:crazy:

Yes, they are called New Yorkers.

[vaberella]

27. Hey!! New York is a shifty bunch. Greys Papaya has a huge poster in front for OBAMA, we go Obama

now.

[Cha]

30. FAIL feinstein...hilary DOES NOT HAVE THE POPULAR VOTE.

So, you're either too dense to grasp that fact or you're a creepy LIAR.

[OzarkDem]

11. This might help

clarify why the popular vote is important. Not just the numbers, but where the support is:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6307451

[roseBudd]

15. It doesn't help

[OzarkDem]

21. If you want Obama to win, it does

[featherman]

20. Part of this is just self-justification for backing the loser of a bruising fight

The quote could be restated "See, I'm not so dumb after all... millions and millions agreed with me about my candidate being the best even though we lost a squeaker in the end"

That's how I am seeing these scattered comments anyway. Not a big worry or indicative of much else than that.

[Swamp Rat]

22. Obama won the popular vote.

It is disingenuous to say otherwise.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

[bridgit]

28. Well now there you go, there is a popular vote and it is not meaningless...

pass the word, cause too many here don't even think it has existed thus far :thumbsup:

[Poll_Blind]

23. ** People should read this very short analysis at the Jed Report **

Feinstein pushing fake popular vote meme...or not?

PB

[Cha]

32. feinstein needs to have her disingenuous dino ass

held accountable for her words. She thinks her shit don't stink.

[madrchsod]

24. her husband is an arms dealer

and hillary is second in senate earmarks for the war machine.....nothing sinister in that....is there?

[Cha]

33. Bloody awful..those two WarHogs.

Freakin' Orwellian shitpushers.

[crankychatter]

25. Hillary won the popular vote.... and Sadaam's WMD were smuggled to Syria

Bigfoot and Elvis had a love child

[Cha]

35. And hilary's a big liar and so's her warmachine buddy feinstein..

[MonkeyFunk]

29. She's pointing out that Clinton has a legitimate claim

to be treated with respect. I know a lot of you guys can't fathom such a thing.

[EFerrari]

31. Obama has been nothing but gracious with Clinton. n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

34. And many of his supporters

have not. What's your point?

I disagree with your view of the campaign, though.

[KAZ]

36. She has been treated with respect. She deserves it. You don't..

.. You've been a pathetic piece of shit. I would be happy to explain this in person.