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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:43 AM
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Will Bobby Jindal help or hurt McCain, if he gets the VP pick
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 11:45 AM by LynneSin
On the plus side, we haven't won Louisiana in the last couple of elections so therefore we probably aren't losing anything electoral vote wise.

But on the negative side, the Indian population is a fast growing population - I'm wondering what kind of sway that Jindal would have even though most of the Indians I know practice the faith they had from India (or their parent's faith whereas Jindal is a Catholic.

I do know that Jindal is a major appeasement to the anti-choice folks because I think Jindal's anti-choice stance almost makes folks like Rick Santorum look a bit liberal. And Jindal could help bring in that crowd since McCain seems to be repelling some of the big fundamentalist groups.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:46 AM
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1. I can't see how he helps
in any place other than LA. Besides the bigots who think Obama is a Muslim because of his name will have a hard time with Jindal, regardless of his Catholic faith.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:16 PM
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24. NOT A CHANCE ...
Jindal is on the ticket ...

Not a chance ... As someone else noted, all he does is even further exacerbate the GLARING age difference betwen BO and McCain ... McCain doesn't need a situation where the COMBINED age of both his opponent and his VP are about the same as his age ...

Jindal is nothing more than the dark skinned flavor of the week for the Rs ... NOT A CHANCE he gets VP, a basically non name who is as dark skinned as he is ... With all the dark skinned fear mongering they are doing ... He just is a their pathetic way of trying to act like they are above using race politics while it is all they are going to have against BO ...
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:47 AM
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2. If there were any people who weren't going to vote Obama because he's black
maybe this would counter those racists. Who are they going to vote for now?

I don't know. That's just the first thing that pops up in my head.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:52 PM
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58. Bob Barr, ironically.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:47 AM
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3. Jindal was Hindu, but became a Catholic for political reasons.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:12 PM
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21. Makes his religious associations kind of suspect to some people
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:16 PM
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52. His wiki says he switched in high school
Anyway, Jindal could be huge, but I can't ever picture them even having the confidence to give him the vp nod. As had been mentioned, they might be unwilling to risk the bigot vote.
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GreenEyedLefty Donating Member (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:47 AM
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4. Hurt, I would imagine.
The yahoos would have a hard time believing he's "really" Christian on at least two counts: Indians are Hindu and Catholics aren't really Christian.

I mean, after all, Obama is Muslim, right?

<-- tongue firmly in cheek
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:48 AM
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5. He's just wimpy enough to make McCain look stronger...
Much like when Bush Sr chose Dan Quayle to be his VP. They do not want someone that will outshine them. It will be tough for McCain to find someone that looks weaker than he but Jindal is a good start. :-)
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:48 AM
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6. Bobby Jindal will never get the VP pick.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:53 PM
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59. You never know. He might be the only one dumb enough to accept the offer.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:49 AM
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7. McCain has a problem. A young vital VP on stage with him will
make him look even older. This was evident in recent video of Romney next to McCain. McCain will likely have to choose someone who doesn't steal the spotlight.
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weezy2736 Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:52 AM
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10. It's really sad to see Mitt Romeny being more 'alive' than anyone,
much less a presidential nominee.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:49 AM
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8. I'd say hurt
McCain is viewed as the most likely Presidential candidate to pass away in office that I can remember. Therefore, his VP will be looked at, rightfully, as fairly likely to become President. If Obama is considered inexperienced by many, then the 36-year old Jindal will be considered an absolute political infant, one who is not nearly ready to run our country.
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:50 AM
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9. He's an Indian who won in the deep south. Obviously, he helps.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:13 PM
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22. What about the racists voting against Obama in Appalachia?
McCain would have to tell them to not judge someone by the fact that they look different. This would run counter to the theme that the Republicans need to play out.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:07 PM
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62. that's because he won more black voters than most Republicans
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:53 AM
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11. Did you know that he's only 36 years old?
He's barely qualified to be president.

What a contrast that would be. :P
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:04 PM
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14. How does that make him any less qualified then what we have now
:shrug:
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:37 PM
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33. Barely qualified legally to be president
The constitution states that you have to be at least 35.

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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:33 PM
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50. Right.
Paired with a man who is mathematically twice his age. That would be rather funny looking.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:37 PM
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51. Father and son? Something along these lines.
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 01:39 PM by Cant trust em
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:56 AM
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12. He Will Never Get The Nod And Most Indians Are Republicans
They left India because they felt constrainted by socialism and they identify the Republicants as the party that opposes it.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:00 PM
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13. Maybe George Allen can work the surrogate circuit for them.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:04 PM
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15. He has a VP lined up already





Diabeetus!



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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:07 PM
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16. In search of wunderkind
Is there any GOP horse out there not broken to the harness of corruption and uselessness? Someone who even looks or sounds like a semi-sane leader of any sort?

A whole smorgasbord of ham sandwiches, the moldiest and most easily discarded favored for the ease of replacement.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:09 PM
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17. Jindal would overshadow McCain and media would go nuts for Jindal.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:12 PM
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20. He's An Infinitely Better Campaigner Than McSame
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:10 PM
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18. No way it will be Jindal
The repukes are just putting him out there in a lame attempt to make people think they're "inclusive." McSame and company are already rubbing their hands at the thought of racists rushing to the polls to vote against Obama, they're not going to jeapordize losing those votes by putting some "ferner" on the ticket.

My bet is on Charlie Crist. He has that year-round tan going on, giving the illusion of youthfulness. Plus Florida. My money is on him.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:21 PM
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26. LOL...
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 12:23 PM by ingac70
Blogactive outed Charlie Crist a long time ago.

http://www.blogactive.com/2008/05/vice-president-christ.html

This is the same site that outed Larry Craig 10 months BEFORE his arrest in Minnesota.

I hope they pick Crist! :popcorn:
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:32 PM
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32. No way!
Bwah! I love it! I admit, I know little of him, just thought the governor of a swing state would be tops on the list. Guess not in this case!
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:42 PM
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36. Yes way...
Florida papers openly pondered the question of his sexuality while he ran for Gov.

It isn't a secret in Fl.... lots of hypocrite republicons in Florida. We both now how that would play in the "Heartland". ;-)
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:11 PM
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19. The GOP is not going to nominate an ethnic minority. The VP nominee will be a male WASP

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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:16 PM
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23. Hurts...
the mouth breathing racists will stay home for sure if there is a brown person on each ticket.
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JoDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:23 PM
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27. Those are my instincts as well
Put Jindal on the ticket and the racists will stay home.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:21 PM
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25. McCain should pick Jindal. He will help him. Do it McCain!
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:23 PM
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28. Hurt.
For one, lots of idiots will think he's Arab or Muslim.

Also, the Indian population is fast-growing, but it's hardly the electoral force that a growing group like Latinos are.

And here's one Indian who would never vote for Jindal.

<------ ;)
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:27 PM
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29. Like Kumar From "Harold And Kumar"
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:28 PM
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30. LOL, yep.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:31 PM
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31. Escape From Guantanamo Was Hilarious Right Down To The Depiction Of George Bush*
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:37 PM
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34. It will hurt him with the Republican fundie base.
Without them, I don't see how he can win. He might pick up some moderate Democrats and Independents but not enough to matter. Unless McCain figures out a way to motivate Republicans to WANT to vote for him, he's screwn.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:45 PM
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38. Not with Jindal - he's the darling of those anti-choice fundies
You won't find a purer anti-choice candidate out there than Bobby Jindal. If anything he would appease the anti-choice fundies
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:53 PM
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42. I admit I didn't know that about him.
I was thinking along racial lines; the fundies in my neck of the woods are racist. :hi:
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:56 PM
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53. Indeed... he is RABIDLY anti-choice.
Not a fan of that guy. x(
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:08 PM
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63. he does that to be acceptable to the white conservatives
he wants them to be proud of him and to accept him.
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:41 PM
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35. he would be the perfect disaster. i hope scarface picks him.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:45 PM
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37. Bobby Jindal will be President one day.
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 12:45 PM by tritsofme
I have no doubt about it.

I said the same thing about Obama several years ago.

This kid has so much going for him at the age of 36, there's no way that Jindal would want to hitch himself to sinking ship that is John McCain. He has too much of a future.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:47 PM
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40. Well I for one will do my damndest to keep Jindal out of the White House - he is scary
As I posted earlier, you will not find a purer anti-choice candidate out there than Bobby Jindal. I have no problem with an Indian-American in the White House but this is one guy we need to keep out of there. He is a fundamentalist anti-choice wet dream
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:50 PM
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41. He scares me very much.
And to see him dismissed out of hand in this thread is scary too.

They said America would never elect a buffoon like Reagan, he was too fringe ect.

What I see in Jindal is a Reagan, only 50 times smarter. We need to watch him very closely.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:00 PM
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48. Who Is Dismissing Him?
He's a fricken Rhodes Scholar who came back to Louisiana...

Reminds you of who?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:02 PM
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55. Not in a brazillion years.
I'd bet the farm.


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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:01 PM
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60. Jindal's problem will be getting the GOP nomination
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 08:08 PM by Hippo_Tron
Besides the race factor, Jindal is an intellectual and you don't go very far in GOP primaries as an intellectual. Mitt Romney lost his key base of supporters to the populist Huckabee. Also, the GOP respects their elders and will probably not nominate someone in their 40's. Piyush is gonna have to do a few terms in the Senate after he's done as Governor and learn how to be a populist if he wants to win the nomination.

Right now Lamar Alexander is next in line to be the sacrificial lamb to go up against Obama in 2012. We'll see if the GOP is smart enough not to nominate someone in their 70's.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:46 PM
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39. He would help cancel out the racism vote.
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PylesMalfunction Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:53 PM
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43. It would hurt
First you have the huge age difference. Second, all good Christians here in the south know that Catholics really aren't Christian. ;)

Seriously - I grew up Catholic in the south, moved up north and ended up back in Tennessee as a Methodist. I was absolutely gob smacked at how many right-wing Christians think Catholics aren't Christian. And for all of those that are willing to say it out loud, a lot more think it or lean that way. I'm getting married soon and my fiance's family would have a shit fit if we got married in the catholic church.

I think Jindal is a flavor of the week.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:54 PM
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44. I actually lived in Texarkana for 3 months.
not far from Shreveport, so I was subjected to a battery of REALLY bad Jindal ads on TV.

I think it'll doom McCain.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:55 PM
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45. no one can help mccain
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:57 PM
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46. I don't know...my kneejerk reaction is that part of the Republican base are bigots.
But Jindal managed to get himself elected in LA.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:57 PM
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47. He should choose Jindal or Condi Rice! nt
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:00 PM
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49. They can kiss the bigot vote goodbye if they do
Bob Barr will pull a good 25% if they put Jindal on the ticket.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:00 PM
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54. Jindal eliminates the racists, right-to-choose-female moderates, and non-flat-Earthers
A donkey and a piglet could beat that ticket.



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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:05 PM
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56. McCain won't pick Jindal.
He's too young (36) and the contrast would make McCain look too old.

He's only been governor for five months.

He might energize fundamentalists, but that effect would likely be offset by loss of the bigots.

The Indian-American vote is tiny. People of South Asian descent represent less than 1% of the US population and an even smaller percentage of US citizens.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:51 PM
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57. McCain's stance on Pakistan may be more important
to Americans of Indian ancestry than Jindal's ancestry. And I cannot imagine that McCain's readiness to identify with Bush's view of Pakistan will help him much there.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:05 PM
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61. Piyush comes off too much like many minorities in the Republican Party
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 08:06 PM by JI7
Michelle Malkin is another example. where they feel the need to try so hard to show they are conservative in order to make the whites in the party proud of them. like with Malkin on immigration and Jindal with the anti choice and other stands it comes off as "look at me, look at how conservative i am, don't you love me, am i one of you now".

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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:10 PM
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64. People! He's 36! He is NOT going to be McCain's VP.
I don't even see why people discuss things that aren't going to happen. I'm not saying that'll NEVER happen for the guy, but it ain't happening this year, LOL!
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:23 PM
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65. He would make McBush look like a corpse
standing together on a podium.:popcorn:

Plus the "hidden hindu" meme would surface and flow across the series of tubes aka the internets, lol.:hide:
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