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Cobia Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:34 PM
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Kerry opposes moving troops from Germany and England?
Edited on Tue Aug-17-04 05:34 PM by Cobia
Why? The Cold War is over?

I do agree with bringing them home or doing serious peacekeeping with the UN.

The EU can defend itself pretty well now.



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borat sagdiyev Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:37 PM
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1. Kerry made the mistake of listening to Clark
ohh the boogeyman will get us if we leave Europe!
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:39 PM
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2. that's a pretty dumb stance
Bush can't be wrong everytime. We should have done this a long time ago IMO
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vivalarev Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:42 PM
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3. In defense of Kerry and Clarke....
it would be extremely foolish to remove troops from South Korea....that place is about to blow up
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:45 PM
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4. When did he say that?
Edited on Tue Aug-17-04 05:46 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
Kerry opposes moving troops from Germany and England

According to whom? Do you have a quote from Kerry saying that? Link? Wtf are you talking about?



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Cobia Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:48 PM
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5. Richard Hoolbrooke was on NPR and said it
I thought he is part of the Kerry campaign?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:51 PM
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6. Are you talking about what Kerry thinks or what Holbrooke thinks?
Edited on Tue Aug-17-04 05:52 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
Make up your mind.

No, Holbrooke is not a Kerry campaign spokesman.


By the way, did you accurately characterize Holbrooke's remarks? What did he actually say? Link, please.

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Cobia Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 06:02 PM
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7. here
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 06:12 PM
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10. I heard it on NPR this morning too..
...and I was a little suprised. I think this could have been handled better.

On the face of it Bushes pullback does make sense (at least from Europe)
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silver state d Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 06:07 PM
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8. Time
It is a question of timing. Right now our standing in the world is weak so what do we do? Run away, withdraw in disarray, not as part of some coherent plan that acts to recognize new facts and realities. No we need those troops to fight our pres. pet wars, he needs those soldiers to invade Iran or wherever is next on his list. Plus, it'll teach those pesky French and Germans. We don't need or care about you anymore.
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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 06:10 PM
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9. Political ploy
Should troops be removed from Germany? Yes. Does it need to be done now, in an election Bush will probably lose? The scary thing is he may actually be invading Iran. Is he even bringing the troops home? Or is he moving them to Turkey, Iraq?
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 06:14 PM
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11. this is supposed to be a ten year phased withdrawl.
..hardly "withdraw in dissary".

I have to say Bush is correct on this one, at least.
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silver state d Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 06:23 PM
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12. more precise
It is the appears of weakness that worries me. Combine this with the total disregard for internationalism the administration has demonstrated repeatedly it looks like we are on path to total disengagement from the world.
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