She lost me at "slumlord".

[DesEtoiles]

For many many years I strongly defended Hillary Clinton.

Then came this primary campaign.

Now, I have only contempt left for her.

[Stephanie]

1. It was a regrettable campaign

I'm sure she will have many occasion to rethink the whole thing. She took a wrong turn somewhere around 2003.

[StevieM]

5. It was a magnificent campaign that left me more proud of her then ever (eom)

[Ned_Devine]

14. which part?

I must have missed the "pride inspiring" part of her campaign

[StevieM]

32. I guess you did. Too bad. I'm just grateful that I had the opportunity to support her (eom)

[Ned_Devine]

37. I saw an entirely different campaign than you, I guess

[guruoo]

65. Hang in there, it will all come out.

I promise. Been takin names, and folowing the tracks they left behind.

But for now, now we need to focus on getting our country back.

[emilyg]

85. Your loss.

[roguevalley]

96. when the inside books come out, come back and tell us the same

thing. then we will know you are either delusional or support the shit they will tell she did and approved of. Until then, have fun until 6/11.
after that, buh-bye or get on board.

[emilyg]

98. Any one who types buh-bye I don't pay attention to.

[roguevalley]

99. you just did. :)

[emilyg]

102. Aw shucks - you noticed.

[Ian David]

35. Are you really that fucking easy, or were your expectations actually that low? n/t

[Zhade]

53. Were you more proud of her lying about Tuzla and NAFTA, or her race-baiting?

Just wondering which bit of her scumbaggery you liked best.

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[Zhade]

58. HAHAHA! Yeah, you wish. Tuzla video, buddy.

You're wrong.

[guruoo]

61. Yes, but it's

time to move on.

[Beacool]

72. Race baiting?

Saw plenty of that by the Obama camp. You couldn't say anything about him because immediately it would be called "racist".

[StevieM]

88. Agreed...it was a national disgrace what was done by Obama. If he wins I look forward to voting

against him in the 2012 primaries. I can't imagine that he won't be such a terrible president that he doesn't draw a primary challenger.

Steve

[dorktv]

91. Steve, come on you are being over the top just as much as the people claiming she is evil for

running a hard fought campaign.

[Cha]

82. There's such a wide variety of shining moments to choose from..

[Ned_Devine]

93. That is priceless!

[Cha]

97. It's for the red herring crowd who

are the "enablers trapped in a cycle of denial".

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

64. The part about dodging sniper fire

Chelsea at ground zero

or any of the other myriad of crap she pulled out of nowhere..

[ccharles000]

2. Who did she call slumlord?

[Madam Mossfern]

4. Rezko?

[Ned_Devine]

6. Tony Rezko during a debate...

...when Obama questioned her having sat on the board for Wal-Mart (which she did)

[tyedyeto]

3. Context? For those of us who have NO idea what you're talking about

[DesEtoiles]

7. In one of the early debates, she sandbagged Obama and accused him of

hanging out with a slumlord.

[tyedyeto]

19. So, why didn't you elaborate in your OP.

I so dislike posts in which I have to guess what the OP is speaking about.

So, quote the context.

[Beacool]

73. And he did, there's no lie there.

Furthermore, the sweetheart deal he got when he purchased his home stinks more than a landfill.

[MannyGoldstein]

9. During A Debate...

Clinton accused Obama of defending a slumlord. As to the veracity of the story... it was Clintonian, at best.

[asthmaticeog]

8. Wow, set the wayback machine, Sherman - wasn't that in like January?

[Whisp]

17. what's the statute of limitations for stupidy?

you willing to give the Chimperor that same pass?

[asthmaticeog]

24. Bush will always be the enemy. Clinton's nothing now.

And shame on you for trying to draw an equivalence between an 8-year murderous regime and an offensively stupid campaign tactic. If you wanna call me a freeper, grow a pair and just call me a freeper.

[Whisp]

27. hahaha! that fickle finger of fake wagging at me, at la Clintoness.

:rofl:

shame on ME!

:rofl:

[asthmaticeog]

29. What the fuck are you talking about?

[Whisp]

39. shame on Me, and Barack Obama!

shame shame shame on all of us.

:rofl:
your idiot queen coined that one

[asthmaticeog]

42. I'm an Obama supporter, Einstein.

Also, I'm pretty sure the expression "shame on you" was coined well before Hillary was even born. You're giving her way too much credit.

[Whisp]

47. but she coined it 'so well'... in that pathetic public performance.

ha!
she is totally tone deaf and has been insular in her clinton world for too long. she just does not 'get it'. and most likely never will. Galelio.

[silverojo]

63. HRC voted for the IRW, and NEVER regretted it

That makes her one of Bush's co-horts.

[EFerrari]

89. The Wayback Machine!

lol

[LakeSamish706]

10. Why are we still fighting this out? Hillary is history and now we should move on! n/t

[StevieM]

18. She isn't history, she has millions of supporters. And she is a well-liked member of the Senate(eom)

[TahitiNut]

46. "millions of supporters" ... but can't seem to get them to pony up to pay off her campaign debt.

With 'supporters' like those ... who needs her?

[gulfcoastliberal]

50. That's gonna leave a mark!

Very Nice! ;)

[StevieM]

55. No mark...just the same type of hatred that typifies the arrogant Obama movement.

You know....he doesn't really need my vote. He is probably going to lose 48 states no matter what I do.

Steve

[gulfcoastliberal]

56. ...

[Chulanowa]

62. I find it strange that you're calling Obama arrogant...

when it's Clinton and her supporters who have decided that the rules don't actually apply to her because she's just that wonderful (See Michigan and Florida, delegates, etc) and even after losing... she still claims to be winning.

I could see calling Obama smug (I would be too, in his position) but "Arrogant" applies to Clinton. Remember, inevitability? it's her turn? Has it in the bag? No need to plan after super tuesday?

[StevieM]

67. She never said she was inevitable, or that it was her turn or that it was in the bag. That was all

part of the hate campaign. It demonstrates that Barack Obama is a bad person who has brought out the worst in American.

Oh well...at least if he wins he can save the Supreme Court. Let's just hope that whatever Democrat defeats him in the 2012 primaries is able to defeat Mitt Romney.

Steve

[Chulanowa]

68. Clinton supporters hate Clinton?

Okay. Well, at least now I know where all the projection is coming from.

I hope you'll be pleasantly surprised over the next four to eight years. In hte meantime between now and January 20, invest in some tums to handle all that bile.

[StevieM]

70. I hope you will give the Democrat who defeats Obama in 2012 a chance (eom)

[Chulanowa]

78. If there is such a creature, sure

Well. Unless it's like, Lieberman.

[Cha]

83. You're typical of a hilary supporter who doesn't know the facts..

[SOS]

94. The "hate campaign" as lampooned by Jon Stewart this week?

The Daily Show had a brilliant montage of news clips from 2007.
Each clip showed a talking head announcing the certain and inevitable victory of Hillary Clinton.
How does that translate into a "hate campaign" against HRC?

[Genevieve]

100. yeah, she did.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_xGsX-R_ZTQ&feature=related

[PBS Poll-435]

11. The "Slum-lord" who was convicted in Federal Court.

And is headed to jail?

:shrug:

[boppers]

41. What was he convicted of?

Was Obama implicated?

[PBS Poll-435]

44. He was convicted of fraud, attempted bribery and money laundering

Obama's name was brought up a few times at the trial, but at this point has not been accused of ANY wrongdoing.

Governor Rod's ties are a little more questionable, though.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

12. She managed to work Farrakhan in at the ABC debate

I was like :wtf: It was really apropos of nothing, except to be a very effective albeit not very subtle dog whistle.

[StevieM]

13. That's fine. You will no doubt be very unhappy to see him totally dependent on her

to win this election. He needs her to campaign for him, whether you like it or not.

Obama was the one who first took a shot at her about Wallmart.

Contempt is a common feature amonst Obamites.

Steve

[DesEtoiles]

15. What color is the sky in your world?

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[TahitiNut]

48. Isn't the sky falling in CloudCuckooLand yet?

I guess it's raining gumdrops on idiots these days. :eyes:

[asthmaticeog]

49. And I'm sure her decision to campaign for him depends on whether some DUer likes her or not.

:eyes:

So I take it you think she didn't deserve that shot about WalMart? Because, here comes the cluetrain, she did.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

66. Well youre half right...

The winner of the primary, that would be Obama, usually need the loser, in this case Hillary, to get behind them.... If, when Bill Clinton won the other dems had said 'screw you' he would have lost as well. But this year Hillbots are real good at turning the loser into, magically, the winner..

[MonkeyFunk]

16. Are you arguing that Rezko was not a slumlord?

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article


Or do you just don't like it that somebody pointed it out?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

25. So would it have been okay for Obama to bring up Monica Lewinsky?

"Back while you were busy covering up for your husband's affair with an intern not much older than your daughter..."

Guess that would have been fair game too. It was true, after all. :shrug:

[PBS Poll-435]

30. Monica Lewinsky didn't exactly fit in the "Current Events" section...

[mrreowwr_kittty]

38. Um, neither did Rezko

She was bringing up Rezko in the context of talking about what Obama was doing way back when he was a community organizer.

How about Ayers? Obama was 7 when he committed his crime and yet somehow that was used against him. What is it? Only the Clintons get a statute of limitations?

[PBS Poll-435]

40. Again

"Friend" of Illinois politicians and fundraiser for Obama under indictment and subsequently convicted on a majority of the counts against him. - 2008


"The Blowjob Felt 'Round the World?" 1997/1998

[mrreowwr_kittty]

45. Bullshit tenuous linkage there, bud

Besides, Bill's stupid zipper mishap in the Oval Office is still having lingering effects. 1998 - Present.

It's actually a bigger deal than Rezko, IMO. We lost Congress because of it. And Gore lost votes in 2000 because he didn't dare associate himself with Bill and millions fell for the "return honor and integrity to the White House" nonsense.

But Obama didn't bring it up.

[barb162]

76. Yeah and Obama was in his 40s when Ayers said he didn't do enough bombing

SO Obama should come clean with that crap already.

[emilyg]

86. His conviction is current events.

[Beacool]

95. Are you serious??

Obama's first fund raiser when he ran for the state senate was held in Ayres' living room.

Obama has surrounded himself with dubious characters for years now, nothing new. The Republicans are going to have a field day reminding the nation of his association with these people.

[Ned_Devine]

28. "Or do you just don't like it that somebody pointed it out?"

If you Clinton folks are going to be back out in full force and as nasty as ever, please use proper grammar. Your debates are already almost meritless. Don't make them completely worthless with poor grammar. Thanks!

[MonkeyFunk]

54. Oh my god!

I messed up a sentence!

Will the internet survive?

[boppers]

34. How much "defending" did Obama do of him, as Clinton accused Obama of doing?

I thought the Wal-Mart jab at least lacked the air of slander, but saying that somebody was actively defending a slumlord had a slightly different aroma.

Arguments can be made that people who broker in, and develop, low-income housing are slumlords, certainly. That would be a matter of opinion.

Arguments can also be made that Wal-Mart is destroying America, and Obama didn't go there. He simply stated a fact. She replied with a character slam, that in retrospect, turned out to be a mis-representation of the facts.

[Ned_Devine]

69. Ka-Boom! Exactly! You said it so well

[boppers]

36. P.S.: The link you pointed to obviously lacks editorial oversight, in some way.

What's up with the double paragraphs in the link?

[JI7]

20. and why post this now ?

i don't understand most of the threads you start.

[justinsb]

21. Ok...um...she lost if it makes you feel better

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/04/barackobama.hillaryclinton?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront

[quaker bill]

22. She lost me with IWR

in 2002. Did I support Kerry? Yes, but only when the choice was him or Bush.

Would I have supported Hillary? Likely so, but only when it came down to a choice between her and McSame. This, fortunately, is a hurdle I will not have to try to clear.

[jgraz]

26. Execrable behavior you can Xerox.

[moriah]

31. Rezko was a slumlord. Sorry to have to break it to you. n/t

[DesEtoiles]

79. Geraldine Ferraro is a slumlord

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/9809,212225,143,1.html

Geraldine Ferraro: Sweatshop Landlord
Long Hours, Low Pay, Rancid Conditions Are Commonplace at Senate Candidate's Building
by Wayne Barrett & Tracie McMillan
March 10th, 1998 12:00 AM


A SOHO building partially owned by U.S. Senate candidate Geraldine Ferraro and managed by her husband, John Zaccaro, has housed 35 Chinese garment-manufacturing companies over the past few years--many of them nonunion and some apparently illegal.
While an attorney for the current tenants insists they are not sweatshops, a Voice investigation has uncovered an array of conditions identified with sweatshops: piecework pay; 15-hour days; seven-day work weeks; boarded-up windows; blocked exits; crowded, filthy facilities; gut-wrenching fumes; and fly-by-night corporate shells.

Many of these conditions were observed during a half-dozen Voice visits to the premises, one of which was made by experienced garment workers who are both fluent in Chinese and connected to a labor organization. As another indicator of the kinds of shops that have tenanted the building, UNITE, the merged union that represents most garment workers, says that 21 of the 35 businesses listed in phone or other records there have not been represented by it or its predecessor unions, the International Ladies Garment Workers or the Amalgamated Clothing and Textile Workers.

Revelations that a mob-tied pornography company occupied much of the same building undermined Ferraro's vice-presidential candidacy in 1984 and her last Senate race in 1992. That space is now filled with garment manufacturers.

[moriah]

81. I wouldn't say slumlord. I'd say sweatshop owner.

Your point is made, though. That's just as bad as refusing to heat buildings you rent.

I don't like Ferraro anyway, though.

[paulk]

33. aren't you special

[malik flavors]

43. if she lost you at slumlord, you have an extremely low tolerance for politics.

[Skip Intro]

51. I believe she called Rezko a slumlord, not Obama. The OP is lacking quotes and links.

[WillyToad]

52. Threads like this just dont get nominated anymore...

Time to let go and act like democrats!!




Anger and hate poisons a persons integrity and has no place in my party.

[The_Casual_Observer]

59. Was this off the top of your head?

[QC]

60. You give it far, far too much credit. n/t

[Beacool]

71. Rezko IS a slumlord.

What's the problem? Besides, he's the one who shot the first salvo in that debate by bringing up Wal-Mart. She only responded to him in kind.

[barb162]

74. I thought her comment was pretty darn clear. Rezko was a slumlord

Oops now he's a jailbird,and one of Obama's ex-good buddies.

[Beacool]

77. Also, he's biggest donor until his presidential run.

Another guy who he now claims to not have known well enough. He just threw him under the bus yesterday. That undercarriage must be getting crowded with Wright, Pfleger and Rezko vying for space.

:rofl:

[barb162]

80. Yeah, his long time buddy "Tony" is now called "Mr. Rezko" by Obama.

Got to get that distance and pretend for all he never really had any close dealings with the crook for years. :)

[emilyg]

87. We know better.

It stinks.

[AtomicKitten]

75. The "Muslim" emails from her campaign set the tone and it was downhill from then.

she isn't fit to kiss his ring :grr:

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/13820.html
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/foreign/tobyharnden/dec07/obama-muslim.htm
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/10/second-clinton-volunteer-_n_76047.html
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14758.html

[emilyg]

84. Keep up those unity posts.

[EFerrari]

90. Are all primaries like this and I just never paid attention?

That was pretty ugly.

I'm going to really enjoy going up against McMore.

[Enrique]

92. she apologized

to any slumlords she might have offended.

[goldcanyonaz]

101. He lost me at *no one is suffering like the palestinians* like many other Jews

The majority do not trust him and will not vote for him, I am still thinking about what I will do