Tonight was the night for Hillary to be a Leader; instead she took a pass

[FrenchieCat]

She could have been the leader of the approx 18 million (less the approx 1 million operation Chaos Voters) folks who voted for her. She could have started to repair much of the damage that she has done throughout the campaign to our Party's nominee.

She chose not to lead.

She was tested and she failed.

She was not ready on day one.

She made this about her, and failed to note a moment in history that passed her by.

[Triana]

1. She took a piss...

..right on Obama's face, it appears. I hope that she's just "coming to terms" and will concede by end of week - and NOT try to drag this out any further.

[FrenchieCat]

12. Sorry, she didn't piss on our nominee, she pissed on the party.

[apocalypsehow]

15. And if McCain wins thanks to her actions, she will ultimately have taken a giant piss on us all.

:mad:

[ShortnFiery]

22. And, it it hurts Obama's chances in the GE, HRC pissed on our Nation.

:thumbsdown:

[kickitup]

16. I don't think she will

because she will be risking her and Bill's entire legacy. Do they really want to go down in the history books as the couple who fought against the first African American nominee? This is a historic day and how she is reacting to it does not look good.

[mopinko]

20. come to term? it was over on saturday, she lost a long time ago.

there is just no room for sore losers in a democracy. it is an insult for her to be such baby.

[Growler]

23. It was over MONTHS ago!! n/t

[mopinko]

24. true.

but until saturday she had hope that her fixers were going to fix it for her. if she watched that meeting, she should have thrown in the towel right then.
but yeah, she should have had that speech all written up a long time ago.

[Shae]

26. We knew it was over

after Texas and Ohio. That was 3 months ago.
She needed a major win in both of those states in order to remain viable, and she didn't get it.

Bill Clinton had said that it was over if she didn't win Texas, and when you end up with fewer delegates than your opponent in a state, that is not considered a win.

[workinclasszero]

2. She had another chance to lead on the IWR

Hillary failed miserably on that occasion as well.

I'm noticing a pattern here...

[FrenchieCat]

4. I was thinking about that too.

She also took a pass in trying to run without getting into the muk.

[grassfed]

3. she's a pig

[K Gardner]

5. A stunning failure, yes.

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[TeamsterDem]

7. Too bad her opportunity to lead didn't happen at 3AM

That's her finest hour, you know.

[TahitiNut]

8. I'm seeing another difference between them.

As an aged 'white boy,' I'M proud that WE (more than merely some) recognize the content of Obama's character and can support him. With enthusiasm. Hillary and her campaign and supporters seem to focus SOLELY on (older white) women - as though THEY'RE the only ones served by Hillary's candidacy. I find that rather appalling.

[EFerrari]

9. Yep. Leaders don't act in that way.

They get over themselves and lead their people to a place that is best for them, not to a place most opportune for themselves.

She did it in plain sight.

[BeyondGeography]

10. She's obviously too selfish for all of that

another blown opportunity for her.

[Divernan]

18. She is the narcissist's narcissist, as is her husband - they co-enable each other.

Or, with apologies to Oscar Wilde, "Narcissim: The (self)Love that Dare Not Speak Its Name.
Do narcissists like to be famous?
Answer:
You bet they adore being famous, or even notorious. This, by far, is their predominant drive. Being famous encompasses a few important functions: it endows the narcissist with power, provides him with a constant Source of Narcissistic Supply (admiration, adoration, approval, awe) and fulfils important Ego functions. The image that the narcissist projects is hurled back at him, reflected in the eyes (or in the imagined eyes) of those exposed to the celebrity or fame of the narcissist. This way he feels alive, his very existence is affirmed and it begets a sensation of clear boundaries (where the narcissist ends and the world begins).

There is a set of narcissistic behaviours typical to the pursuit of celebrity. There is almost nothing that the narcissist refrains from doing, almost no borders that he hesitates to cross to achieve renown. To him, there is no such thing as "bad publicity" � what is important is to be in the public eye. Because the narcissist equally enjoys all types of attention and likes as much to be feared as to be loved, for instance � he doesn't mind if what is published about him is wrong ("as long as they spell his name correctly"). The only bad emotional stretches are those that are endured by the narcissist during periods of lack of attention, publicity, or exposure. The narcissist then feels empty, hollowed out, negligible, humiliated, wrathful, discriminated against, deprived, neglected, treated unjustly and so on. At first, he tries to compromise and obtain attention from ever narrowing groups of reference ("supply scale down"). But the feeling that he is compromising gnaws at his anyhow fragile self-esteem. Sooner or later, the spring bursts. The narcissist plots, contrives, plans, conspires, thinks, analyses, synthesises and does whatever else is necessary to regain the lost publicity. The more he fails to secure the attention of the target group (always the largest he can access) � the more daring, eccentric and outlandish he becomes. Firm decision is transformed into resolute action and then to a panicky pattern of attention seeking behaviours.

The narcissist is not really interested in publicity per se. Using typical conversion, displacement and projection mechanisms � the narcissist always appears to be different than he is. He appears to love himself � and, really, he abhors himself. Similarly, he appears to be interested in becoming a celebrity � and, in reality, it is the REACTIONS to his fame that interest him: people watch him, notice him, talk about him, debate his actions � therefore he exists. He goes around "hunting and collecting" how the expressions on people's faces change when they notice him. He places himself in the centre of discussions, even as a figure of controversy. He constantly and recurrently pesters those nearest and dearest to him in a bid to reassure himself that he is not losing his fame, his magic touch, the attention of members of his reference group.

Truly, the narcissist is not choosy. If he can become famous as a writer � he writes, if as a businessman � he conducts business. He switches from one field to the other with ease and without remorse because in all of them he is present without conviction, bar the conviction that he must (and deserves to) get famous. He grades activities, hobbies and people not according to the pleasure that they give him � but according to their utility: can they or can't they make him known and, if so, to what extent. The narcissist is one-track minded (not to say obsessive). His is a world of black (being unknown and deprived of attention) and white (being famous and celebrated).

[Raine]

11. She has no class

selfish and self-centered to the end...SHAME ON HILLARY.

[AtomicKitten]

13. Barack has to move forward to the general election.

She has no rational reason to try to hold him up any longer. There are no more places to move the goalposts. It's over. Barack will pivot and start taking it to McCain regardless of what she does.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

14. TOLD ME SHE WOULD VOTE FOR McSHAME

[shellgame26]

17. she is the very definition of a narcissist

She cannot find it in herself to concede defeat. Somewhere in her delusional mind she still thinks there're more primaries to go and to hell with the magic delegate number , it's all about her made up popular vote theory which she claims to have as long as you exclude all the caucus states and give Obama ZERO votes from Michigan. I'm trying oh so hard to be nice now but her refusal to admit that she has lost is the height of arrogance and hubris.

Shame on you HIllary. Shame on you!

[bhikkhu]

19. Very well put.

And much nicer than I have been inclined to. I think she needs to be cut loose at this point, all warnings to the contrary.

Obama vs. McCain is a battle that can be won...HRC is a loose cannon who seems to be in it only for herself, or for the highest bidder. I can't imagine her as a part of any Obama ticket at this point.

[ShortnFiery]

21. HRC has not ever behaved like a "team player." It's all about her and the Clinton Legacy.

Listen in between the lines? HRC is truly a delusional narcissist along with her campaign manager, Terry McMeth. :(

[JVS]

25. She's a miserable failure