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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:09 PM
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Maureen Dowd: She’s Still Here!
He thought a little thing like winning would stop her?

Oh, Bambi.

Whoever said that after denial comes acceptance hadn’t met the Clintons.

If Hillary could not have an acceptance speech, she wasn’t going to have acceptance.

“It’s never going to end,” sighed one Democrat who has been advising Hillary. “We’re just moving to a new phase.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/04/opinion/04dowd.html?hp
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:21 PM
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1. "She's still here!" The same thing should be said about
bottle red-headed self!
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:33 PM
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6. bitter much?
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:35 PM
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8. What's it to you?
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:42 AM
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9. I just don't understand the bitterness anymore. The primaries are over.
It is time to move on, and regardless of what you think of Dowd, that comment was just nasty.

If an Obama supporter said something like that about Hillary they would get yelled at for being sexist.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:45 PM
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23. Excuse me, but I didn't like MODO before these primaries.......
So whatever she said about Hillary is irrelevant. I have never forgiven her for starting that "Al Gore is boring!" meme in the 2000 Election cycle. She's one of the tools that the repukes used to make the race close enough for them to steal. Why anybody gives her more creedance than any other editorialist is beyond me.

Is that alright with you? If not, oh well..........
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:04 PM
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18. Obviously, Hendo was right.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:01 PM
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16. To this day, I still don't really understand what MoDo's agenda is.
She's a talented wordsmith, I'll give her that, but she's been a cypher to me since her unending hostility towards Al Gore in 2000. I don't think she was particularly carrying water for W then, mind you, but she sure never missed an opportunity to talk shit about Gore.

She's written some good and incisive pieces about the Bush administration, Dick in particular, but she just strikes me as so full of vinegar that I never really know exactly what her agenda is, other than picking scabs.
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Ice-9 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:24 PM
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2. I don't blame Senator Clinton as much as I blame her enablers.
No one can get into Senator Clinton's head, but I think a fair inference from the facts is that Senator Clinton wanted this nomination (and wants the presidency) very, very badly. That dream has now been destroyed, and it must be very difficult for her. It's bound to make anyone in that position a little crazy. I feel very bad for her, and not just because I expect her to be standing on the White House lawn two years from now begging feral cats to support her in Denver. The reason I feel bad for her is that her own supporters are going to put her there. They either do not have the guts to tell her that it is over, or they are too selfish to tell her because they have invested so much of themselves in her campaign that they cannot bear to hear her concede. Hopefully the people who are closest to her and lover her the most -- President Clinton or Chelsea -- will step in and tell her it's over. I don't trust her enablers to do the right thing for her.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:34 PM
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7. Ahhh...The Enablers!!! They have been as much at fault as the Clintons!
This is very, very sad!!! :(
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:25 PM
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3. I knew it.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:26 PM
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4. Mooreen Dowd is unreadable
Thinks too highly of that Pulitzer. Irrelevant.
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Armani Toomer Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:31 PM
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5. gasp! Dowd hating on Hillary? Nooooo
The end of the world.

What's next? Gene Robinson praising Obama?
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:51 AM
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10. Who the hell is "I’m-A-Dinner-Jacket"?? Who is Dowd referring to here?

And, even though Democrats were no longer listening, Hillary’s camp radiated the message that Obama was a sucker who had played by the rules on Florida and Michigan, and then reached an appeasing compromise, and that such a weak sister could never handle Putin or I’m-A-Dinner-Jacket.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/04/opinion/04dowd.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin


Any idea who the hell this is???

:shrug:

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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:54 AM
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11. Ahmadinejad?
Some bad attempt at a joke?
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:01 PM
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15. Thanks! I wouldn't have gotten that.
Aak-mah-diin-ah-jahd=I'm a dinner jacket?

Dowd's cavalier sense of humor isn't very funny.

How juvenile to make fun of someone's name!

It's right out of kintergarten...

Isn't she mature?

:eyes:
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:54 AM
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12. Ahmadinejad
A jokey mnemonic.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:59 AM
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13. Jeanie Moos did a piece on Ahmadinejad...
... laughing at how no one could say his name right. One person she interviewed pointed out that the correct pronunciation sounds a lot like "I'm a dinner jacket". If you can remember that, you should be able to remember how to say his name.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:04 PM
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17. So then Dowd is a plagiarist now too...
I didn't see any attribution for this borrowed idea.

Shame! Shame! Shame!

:spank:
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:11 PM
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19. Moos didn't say this....
... she just interviewed someone who said it and included that clip in her piece. It's a widely known joke - not created by Moos.

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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:14 PM
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20. Regardless, Dowd didn't create the moniker, so she needed to give credit to someone.
It is amazing that people like Dowd don't hold themselves to the same standards that they wish to hold others.

If a politician had done this, they would have said it was plagiarism, and it would be in the news for at least a week.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:16 PM
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21. Who do you give credit too?
If it's a widely known joke?

Who do you credit if you cite "Why'd the Chicken cross the road?"

Good god. Give it a rest. You are just nitpicking now and it diminishes any reasonable points you make.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:26 PM
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22. The point remains, that if a politician did this they would call it plagiarism. n/t
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:01 PM
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14. Screw her and her 'Oh, Bambi.'
She's not fit to write for freakin' TMZ, let alone the NY Times.

'Heathers' journalism at its worst.

- as
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