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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:03 PM
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Fuck Harold Ickes!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 12:04 PM by ej510
What the hell is wrong with Hillary and her surrogates? He's on Msnbc with Andrea Mitchell trashing Obama.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:04 PM
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1. Icky Ickybod on Mitchell's show dancing now!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:04 PM
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4. Mute is a lovely button.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:04 PM
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2. I see you've got a problem
with fairness and justice. I'm not surprised.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:05 PM
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6. Whatever do you mean, Cricket?
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:06 PM
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7. Tell me why Hillary did not fight for Florida and Michigan at the beginning?
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 12:07 PM by ej510
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:10 PM
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14. Tell my why Hillary didn't complain about caucuses at the beginning or when Bill ran.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:26 PM
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30. Damn good question!
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:37 PM
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39. Lanny Davis explained it in an interview. He said the reason they
started fighting about FLA and MI later was that they were losing.

Michael Kinsley is right, a "gaffe" in Washington is when someone accidentally expresses the truth.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:14 PM
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19. i see you've got a problem
with outrageously inappropriate hyperbole.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:16 PM
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How'd you do in grade school math?
Just curious. :rofl:
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:17 PM
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47. Why do you hate America? nt
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:19 PM
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49. Adding buddy error...
:banghead:
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:04 PM
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3. Delayed reaction?
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:05 PM
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5. is this a response to something you just read or saw on tv
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 12:07 PM by ErinBerin84
or just a general Fuck Harold Ickes thread (because I agree of course, but is this in reference to something in particular besides his general weekend media tour?)

edit: ok, you answered my question in your original post.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:08 PM
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9. He's on msnbc right stating that Obama should get nothing out of Florida!
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:09 PM
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11. He also said..it's a dead heat race too. Mitchell is such a poor interviewer..
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:09 PM
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Surely you mean Michigan, right?
Even he's not that daft.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:08 PM
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8. Icky pushing Hillary VP spot BS..and he said it's a DEAD HEAT in delegates..lol
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 12:08 PM by Doityourself
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:09 PM
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12. the only way I would support Hillary as VP is if we can
eject the clowns like Wolfson and Ickes from any campaign involvement. And of course, Penn. God, there are so many to choose from. I don't even have a least favorite.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:29 PM
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32. That wouldn't even do it for me.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:10 PM
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15. I'll wager Obama is a much better poker player than Ickes.
Notice how over and over Hillary and her surrogates are forced to show their hands?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:09 PM
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10. This nerd needs to be shown the door to the DNC party and not let it hit...
him in the ass on his way out. The guy is an absolute asshole of major proportions.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:10 PM
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13. Looks like Ickes lies when he closes his eyes...
Every time he said the lie about "Hillary is not closing her campaign tomorrow even though everyone is being laid off" he closed his eyes and kept them closed till he got done. Apparently this is his approach for lying on command.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:36 PM
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37. Hey I just said that! When people shut their eyes like that they are lying.
He barely could keep his open. I think at the rules committee he had his speech prepared and practiced but now that he is one on one he can't keep it together.

And I don't understand why she didn't show him the statement where Hillary said she was going to abide by the rules.
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:11 PM
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16. Their F'n REPUBLICANS! Thats whats wrong with them!
They will try to destroy Obama's election so Hillary can run in 2012.

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:12 PM
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17. He's a symbol of everything Obama is not.. and a prime example of why HRC will NEVER be close to
an Obama Presidency.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:14 PM
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20. The next canidate that behaves this way should be shut down immediately.
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 12:17 PM by ej510
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:16 PM
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22. Hopefully she will be the exemplar of what NOT TO DO in a Dem Primary Race for generations to
come.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:13 PM
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18. What did Ickes say about Obama to Andrea Mitchell?
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:16 PM
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23. He said that Obama stole delegates from Clinton and other words he
is not ethical.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:38 PM
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40. They're ginning up for the ILLEGITIMATE NOMINEE talking point. The
groundwork was laid for this in Hillary's infamous blogger conference call. It's coming.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:16 PM
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21. Fuck Harold Ickes? Sorry...I don't do charity work. n/t
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:17 PM
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24. Unity! Hope! Change!
Fuck (fill in the Hillary supporter)!
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:19 PM
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26. You
:(
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:27 PM
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31. lol
:spank:
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:54 PM
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42. You represent your candidate well
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:55 PM
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44. I voted for Hillary. She lost. Thanks for playing though.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:57 PM
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45. Like I said, you represent your candidate well
Feel free to correct me but you're supporting Obama, right?
Thanks for playin'!
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:00 PM
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46. I support our nominee. Don't you?
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:53 PM
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51. Once we have a nominee, I'll make that decision!
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:25 PM
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29. Stephanie Tubbs Jones.....is another idiot. She made an assclown out of herself this morning with
Contessa Brewer. She asked Stephanie quote: "Would Bill and Hillary work this hard for obama to get Florida and Michigan seated if the roles were reversed and like the rest of her goons she showed her ass(Hillary's goons). She started to get a bit irritated with the question. And then she responded with a fucked up attitude.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:18 PM
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25. Mitchell last week supposedly quoted the Obama campaign as saying they'd lose S. Dak and maybe Mont.
The Obama campaign is noted for knowing exactly where they stand in these states.

My guess is that Mitchell was lying, but we'll see tomorrow.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:24 PM
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28. Not exactly . Andrea said that they thought they would win
Montana, but that South Dakota would be competetive and could go either way.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:30 PM
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35. This must be deja vu for you...
"Andrea Mitchell said the Obama campaign said they might lose SD and that Montana is competitive."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6155995


That was the source of my understanding of the quote. I see now that you disputed it then, too.

I never did see a link or direct quote. :shrug:
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:33 PM
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36. lol
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 12:38 PM by ErinBerin84
I remember it vividly because I thought that Obama was more of a sure thing for both Montana and South Dakota, and I said "Oh Fuckkkk" really loudly, and my roomate said "What the hell are you talking about" from the other room. I would find a youtube if I weren't lazy, but that was what I heard. If someone wants to find the exact quote, I will gladly eat crow :) Maybe she said Montana AND South Dakota, and I just ran it through my biased brain and screwed up the translation. I'm pretty sure that I heard right, but anyone, find the youtube or quote if they want to confirm.



At least Terry is sort of amusing in a weird way. Ickes is a drag. Terry was on Morning Joe this morning with a bottle of rum, and I missed it?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/02/clinton-strategist-terry_n_104680.html
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:36 PM
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38. Your memory is good enough for me.
In reviewing the original thread, I notice that the author of the OP didn't argue the point very enthusiastically.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:20 PM
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27. Did you notice when he was just on with Andrea Mitchel he spoke most of the time
with his eyes closed? He wasn't like that at the rules committee but I'm sure he practiced that act. Now he looks like a person speaking with clear deception.

Then again how could he not? I don't know how Hillary does it but I think it has something to do with that fake smile she has on her all the time.

If Hillary is the VP on the ticket I'll still vote Democratic but trust me I'll have to hold my nose.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:29 PM
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33. My favorite stupid comment by Ickes from this weekend: Hillary "swept" West VA"
Yes, Mr. Ickes, Hillary got 67% of the vote in the Democratic Primary. Guess what, though. That doesn't mean she's going to win the state and Obama would lose it any more than it means that states in which Obama won the primary are definitly in his win column but losses for her.

HRC won the West Virginia primary. But then again, so did Kerry and Gore in 2004 and 2000. And each won it with a higher percentage of the vote than HRC and with more votes than were cast in the repub primary. Yet, both Gore and Kerry lost West Virginia.

Which is just another example of how the Clinton campaign's arguments consists almost entirely of grasping at straws.
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Honu one Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:43 PM
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41. Umm, wasn't Icky in the room when they passed the 50/50?
WTF is he talking about...Obama stole delegates? The only thing Obama did was to concede to the committee's plan to GIVE her 69/59, after he WON the 50/50. He could have insisted that decision stand.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:54 PM
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43. Brain rot? Delusional? Just plain nuts?
You know, the usual Clinton Enabler disorders.

But some are just very, very, very desperate. This is their last "shot". They see their dream jobs in a Clinton administration sliding away. Just remember this when you see one of them on TV lying their ass off: It's full of sound and fury and it signifies absolutely nothing.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:18 PM
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48. We need to call the exterminator to come and tent the whole party
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:29 PM
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50. While you're at it, fuck Harriet Christian for me too.
"I came here for the vote of every American, and our Democratic Party threw us down the tubes," New Yorker Harriet Christian said after yesterday's meeting of the Democratic Party's Rules and Bylaws Committee.

Senator Clinton is the "best nominee possible" for President, said Ms. Christian, "and the Democrats are throwing the election away. For what? An inadequate black male who would not have been running had it not been a white woman that was running for President! And I'm not going to shut my mouth anymore!"

"I can be called white, but you can't be called black," Christian charged. "That's not my America. It's equality for all of us; it's about time we all stood up for it.

"I'm no second-class citizen. And God damn the Democrats!"

"And they think we won't turn and vote for McCain," Christian added. She closed: "Well, I've got news for all of you: McCain will be the next President of the United States!"


http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Irate_Clinton_supporter_God_Damn_Democrats_0601.html

Just sickening. Out of spite, pure unadulterated spite, she and others like her will turn and vote for a man committed to stacking SCOTUS with justices committed to turning the clock back to backalleys and coathangers for women with unwanted pregnancies. So please, ej510, fuck all these fair-weather "Democrats" in the ass for me.
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palindrome Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:23 PM
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52. Alert
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