Ferraro's at it again (whining about sexism and reverse racism)

[LTR]

Now she wrote a whole op-ed for the Boston Globe. And not only is she and her ilk victims of sexism, but also...



wait for it...




reverse racism.

:wtf:

The reaction to the questions being raised has been not to listen to the message and try to find out how to deal with the problem, but rather to denigrate the messenger. Sore loser, petty, silly, vengeful are words that have dominated the headlines. But scolding and name calling don't resolve disputes. The truth is that tens of thousands of women have watched how Clinton has been treated and are not happy. We feel that if society can allow sexism to impact a woman's candidacy to deny her the presidency, it sends a direct signal that sexism is OK in all of society.

In response, a group of women - from corporate executives to academics to members of the media - have requested that the Shorenstein Center at Harvard University and others conduct a study, which we will pay for if necessary, to determine three things.

First, whether either the Clinton or Obama campaign engaged in sexism and racism; second, whether the media treated Clinton fairly or unfairly; and third whether certain members of the media crossed an ethical line when they changed the definition of journalist from reporter and commentator to strategist and promoter of a candidate. And if they did to suggest ethical guidelines which the industry might adopt.

That sexism impacted Clinton's campaign, I have no doubt. Did she lose a close election because of sexism? I don't know. But I do know that it will never happen again as long as women are willing to stand up and make sure that it is just a one-time bad experience.

As for Reagan Democrats, how Clinton was treated is not their issue. They are more concerned with how they have been treated. Since March, when I was accused of being racist for a statement I made about the influence of blacks on Obama's historic campaign, people have been stopping me to express a common sentiment: If you're white you can't open your mouth without being accused of being racist. They see Obama's playing the race card throughout the campaign and no one calling him for it as frightening. They're not upset with Obama because he's black; they're upset because they don't expect to be treated fairly because they're white. It's not racism that is driving them, it's racial resentment. And that is enforced because they don't believe he understands them and their problems. That when he said in South Carolina after his victory "Our Time Has Come" they believe he is telling them that their time has passed.

Whom he chooses for his vice president makes no difference to them. That he is pro-choice means little. Learning more about his bio doesn't do it. They don't identify with someone who has gone to Columbia and Harvard Law School and is married to a Princeton-Harvard Law graduate. His experience with an educated single mother and being raised by middle class grandparents is not something they can empathize with. They may lack a formal higher education, but they're not stupid. What they're waiting for is assurance that an Obama administration won't leave them behind.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/05/30/healing_the_wounds_of_democrats_sexism/

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/30/155546/700/159/525648

Geraldine Ferraro is ten pounds of bullshit in a five pound bag. And if she wants to call that sexist, then she can go fuck thyself.

[cliffordu]

1. She needs a good session with a shrink.

[monomach]

2. She needs a punch on the chin.

Getting REALLY tired of her senile ass.

[cliffordu]

3. Originally I was going to say vibrator, but chin works, too.....

[PBS Poll-435]

41. So Clever!

And gross.


You've had better...

[dkf]

4. I read her op ed earlier. Its really weak. I'm surprised

that was all she could come up with.

I'm waiting, but I haven't seen a legitimate charge of sexism yet. And anyone who uses the "iron my shirt" stunt is kind of pathetic. How is it that two morons suddenly represent the nation? Sad.

[murielm99]

5. Thank you Geraldine Ferraro.

Well said.

And thank you OP, even though YOU are the blivet in this case.

Obama better figure out how he is going to unite this party and appeal to the people who are angry about the way Clinton has been treated and the way they have been treated. He doesn't have much time, or we will have a third term of bush.

Maybe some of you Obama supporters here can start right now. No? Believe it or not, people see your nastiness and consider it a reflection on Obama. Continue your nastiness, and prepare for another republican administration.

[emilyg]

7. Bravo!!!

[beac]

9. It's "brava" for women...

SEXIST!

[beac]

10. More pot and kettle nonsense from you.

[LTR]

12. You gotta give a little to get a little

I find it absurd that people who incessantly slam Obama and the people who support him are the ones demanding that we be nice.

Please. Smell reality.

Nobody owes you anything.

If you want respect, you have to earn it. Otherwise, nobody really cares about your victimhood.

[billybob537]

22. I'm so sorry the entire party

didn't fall all over itself for Hillary.
It's over
get a clue.
The answer to how you get Hillary's supporters to vote for Obama is Roe V Wade.
If that doesn't work Screw the bitter old haigs.

[murielm99]

32. Your attitude sums up what I am saying.

"Bitter old haigs" (sp)?

Did you mean hags?

And you expect to name-call and unite and win a general election with that kind of talk? Grow up and learn some manners. And learn to spell.

[billybob537]

44. Being a sore loser doesn't

make you right

[murielm99]

45. Being a sore winner makes you

a fool and a child.

It makes you divisive at a time we need unity. Grow up.

[pampango]

23. That's a new one. The Democratic Party as the party representing those harmed by reverse

racism. If someone had suggested this to me a couple of years ago, I would have thought they were crazy (or a die-hard RW repub - the same thing).

I guess if you live long enough, you see everything. Move over, repubs. :think:

[Window]

29. Well, it will also be Hillary supporters republican administration. Your prerogative.

Talk about biting off one's nose to spite one's face...

[murielm99]

33. Then you need to start reaching out and mending fences

instead of blaming.

Get over yourself about biting off noses. Stop being a sore winner. I have never seen such a pack. You win and act like losers. Keep it up and all of us will be losers in November.

[Window]

46. I've reached out several times and had my ass handed to me. No thanks. You're on your own.

and for or your the record, I'm not a sore winner, I'm just tired of reaching out to sore losers who won't let it be.

Peace:thumbsup:

[LordJFT]

38. hmm polls show most people think clinton's the one doing the race-baiting

[davidpdx]

6. She's furthering two ridiculously false arguments

1) Obama is a elitist, which isn't true.

2) The first viable woman to run for president lost the nomination because of sexism and the chances of a woman every winning is nil.

[SDJay]

39. How does Gerry not see that this is an inherently...

self-defeating argument? To say that Hillary is the 'victim' of sexism logically means that people aren't willing to vote for a woman for President. She also seems to have noticed that the person beating her right now is an African-American man. Last I checked, neither is more of a 'non-white male' than the other. Perhaps, just perhaps, if we even play into the fantastical premise she's positing, and we assume that many people are still afraid to vote for a non-white male, she could understand that by logical result, people willing to vote for a black man over a woman does in fact mean that people would vote for a woman, just not THIS woman...

It's at-best a confusing and illogical position, at-worst it's intellectually dishonest.

[beac]

8. "They don't identify with someone who has gone to Columbia and Harvard Law School"

Noooooo... but they DO with someone who went to Wellesley and YALE Law School and is a multi-millionaress.

Those working class people sure do cling to their Ivy League rivalries!

[Why Syzygy]

11. So Clinton's degrees are okay because she's a WOMAN?

I'm glad they are getting their study. I won't be surprised if they find sexism was an influence. Not the most important one, but there. This is the FIRST TIME a woman has run. What do they expect? People haven't rolled over for Obama. His feet have met the fire. But somehow being a woman is supposed to exempt one from having to pass the test? I want them to find out what happened. When another woman runs, we need to put this bullshit behind us.

[Raine]

13. She needs to put down the crack pipe

it's rotting out her brain. :crazy:

[mdmc]

25. she is from Newburgh NY

The northeast capital of crack:shrug:

[VolcanoJen]

14. So the Clintons never went to Ivy League colleges, they never pursued higher education?

:wtf:

Geraldine Ferraro is nuttier than a fruitcake.

[Kool Kitty]

15. Yes, Geraldine, we all know just how tough it is to be

white in this country. Tough to be a woman- sometimes, yes; tough to be white-not so much.

[Hola]

16. Where is the beef?

She said Obama is very sexist, but where is the evidence? This would have been a good example to lay it out.

As for the 'Reagan Democrats' - these guys vote for style over substance anyway. Reagan won California, New York, Washington, Oregon, - none of which Obama is going to loose.

[curious one]

17. I have tuned her out. She is doing HRC's whining.

I only wish her to be dignified and graceful for her age! But maybe I am asking too much!

[murielm99]

35. Obama has never used surrogates to do anything

for his campaign. :sarcasm:

And who is supposed to be dignified and graceful? Stereotype much? Are you dignified and graceful for your age?

:rofl:

[bluestateguy]

18. More expertise I see from Geraldine 49 state Loser

She cites no evidence whatsoever to back up her nonsense.

[Youphemism]

19. I welcome that study, as long as Ms. Ferraro is included as a subject of it

"That when he said in South Carolina after his victory 'Our Time Has Come' they believe he is telling them that their time has passed."

Uh, Geraldine? There's nothing about race in that statement. Not a direct reference, not an oblique reference. He's talking about his campaign. If Hillary said, "Our time has come," would you infer she was talking about white people? I wouldn't.

Gee, I wonder how anyone might get the impression you have race issues.

[murielm99]

36. She was not referring to race when she made that

statement. She was referring to older women. Read the whole thing. Get a clue.

[Youphemism]

43. Uh, wrong

"She was referring to older women. Read the whole thing. Get a clue."

Here's the whole quote for *you*. It talks about black people and white people... Not about women.

(Please respectfully clue yourself in.)

"Since March, when I was accused of being racist for a statement I made about the influence of blacks on Obama's historic campaign, people have been stopping me to express a common sentiment: If you're white you can't open your mouth without being accused of being racist. They see Obama's playing the race card throughout the campaign and no one calling him for it as frightening. They're not upset with Obama because he's black; they're upset because they don't expect to be treated fairly because they're white. It's not racism that is driving them, it's racial resentment. And that is enforced because they don't believe he understands them and their problems. That when he said in South Carolina after his victory "Our Time Has Come" they believe he is telling them that their time has passed."

[kevinmc]

20. She reminds me of the Late whacko Leona Helmsley, ...

[Ian David]

21. Randi Rhodes was 100% right about her. n/t

[Divernan]

24. Somewhere in Sicily, a village is missing its peasant - giving everyone the "mal occhio"/evil eye.

Ferraro has degenerated into the above stereotype - picture her with a babushka tied around her head, glaring out at the world between her spread wide index and middle fingers. She is a caricature of a superstitious, malignant old woman - driven by envy, jealousy and covetousness.

[rodeodance]

26. Ferraro is right. Thanks for keeping this problem in the press.

[bowens43]

27. THank the gods this idiot didn't get anywhere near the halls of power.

[TexasObserver]

28. Ferraro is the biggest loser in Democratic party history.

And, she smells like Old Lady.

[barack the house]

30. Barack has various polcies to financially help seniors which I haven't heard from Clinton, though I.

may of missed it.

[billyoc]

31. She's such a fucking lieberman.

[anonymous171]

34. Someday a white man will rise up and challenge society's reverse racism.

Until then, I can only sit and hope.

[LordJFT]

37. There's nothing more he can say

that will convince some of them that he won't leave them behind.

[TBF]

40. Where the hell is Geraldine's family?

When I am old and senile I really hope my children have enough sense to put me in a nice retirement home where I can relax, eat well, play canasta, read intriguing novels or trashy novellas (depending upon my mood), and leave the cares of the world behind.

[BlooInBloo]

42. With people like her and Ickes and Penn, I can't imagine how Clinton lost....

Leadership starts at the top, dontchaknow.

[undeterred]

47. Two women who should have gone done in history

as the first woman to run for the vice presidency and the presidency... they have abused the word sexism to the point where it is meaningless. Instead of helping women they have both been fools. Since when does a "study" determine what is "racist" or "sexist" or "fair"? These things are pretty subjective when they are in the political arena.