If Dem party in Florida & Michigan accept DNC compromise, what case will Hillary have to go forward?

[KittyWampus]

Her whole bullshit agenda is now making sure the votes from those two states "count".

If the Dem party from both states reach a compromise with the DNC in early June, how can she possibly keep arguing?

What case would she have?

Seriously, wouldn't the only ones who could challenge the decision be a Florida or Michigan voter and NOT Hillary?

It seems to me the DNC and party members of both states ealready knows what the compromise is, have agreed to it and that's it.

Hillary is just blowing smoke.

[Orangepeel]

1. case is way too strong a word. The *excuse* could be "delegates can change their minds"

and, you know, anything can happen.

[KittyWampus]

2. But that would be her LAST excuse.

[HooptieWagon]

7. There won't be a "last" excuse.

They'll keep coming ad nauseum until the nomination is sealed at the convention. Then the sniping, bitterness, and lies will continue until the good voters of NY finally have an opportunity to exile the carpet-bagger.

[DJ13]

3. Arent both states party controlled by Hillary supporters?

[HooptieWagon]

4. Yes...

They thought that jumping to the head of the line would be a PR move for her, and were willing to give up half the delegates to do so. They didn't figure on the R&BC stripping all the delegates, but decided to proceed anyway assuming hillary would lock up the nom early and would ram through seating all the delegates. In hindsight, another characteristic blunder by the Clinton campaign.

[Richard Steele]

5. The same "case" as ever- because she wants to. nm

[iamjoy]

6. Hillary Will Object

It seems like Hillary Clinton will object to any compromise that would not favor her.

It's not so hard in Florida. If all delegates are allocated according to the Jan 29 results (with no sanctions), Clinton would get 105 and Obama would get 67. There are also 13 for Edwards. Of the SuperDelegates, there are 8 for Clinton, 5 for Obama and 13 uncommitted. Even if by some stretch, Clinton gets all 13 of the uncoms and Edwards folk, she nets 67.

Michigan is more complicated. What do we do about the "uncommitted" votes. Since Hillary was the only major candidate on the ballot, one would be inclined to say that a vote for Uncommitted was a vote against Hillary and most, if not all, those delegates should go to Obama. But the Clinton camp will be inclined to say Obama shouldn't get any of those delegates since no one voted for Obama. Technically, she would be correct. Obama's camp protests that Obama wasn't on the ballot so of course no one voted for him - but that's his own fault that he wasn't on the ballot there. There are 128 pledged delegates, Hillary got 55% of the vote, with 40% being uncommitted.

[KittyWampus]

8. But this is between the DNC and the STATES. Hillary has no voice in the decision.

The state party represents the voters, not Hillary.

[iamjoy]

14. You Would Think, Right....

The power play by these rogue states against the DNC was always based on the assumption that we'd have settled on a nominee well in advance of the convention. So, the states figured they'd get all the atention of an early state (backfired big time) and the DNC Rules Committee figured they wouldn't really have a convention without seating delegations from Florida and Michigan. This is because the delegations present their credentials at the convention for certification and surely the candidate committee would not refuse them.

Well, it hasn't quite worked out that way, and now the DNC is in a pickle. They can't really not seat Florida and Michigan - it would generate all sorts of bad press and even more rancor that would definitely lose any hope of taking Florida in the fall, and possibly cost Michigan too. So, the DNC is open to a compromise with the delegation, but it has to be acceptable to both candidates.

[MattBaggins]

9. Subtract the uncommiteds from what she gets

I'm good with that.

[iamjoy]

10. I've Suggested That Too!

lol!

[AZSlacker]

15. The problem with this is that Clinton did alot of legwork when the Mich state convention was held

And from what I recall there was a big effort on their part to get backers of theirs selected as "uncommitted" delegates, and they were successful. So my worry is that even if an agreement is reached at the Rules committee meeting to have the uncommitted delegates count toward Obama, at the convention they will end up actually voting for Clinton on the first ballot... so I hope that if Obama is awarded the uncommitted, that they also re-select those delegates, or they might end up going for her anyways.. agreements notwithstanding.

[cliffordu]

11. I think she'll take it to court if she doesn't get her way.

[Gore1FL]

12. She could use the same lawyers to file her chapter 7.

[cliffordu]

13. LOL...Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark....heh.

[grantcart]

16. Michigan already has a compromise that Obama is accepting and Hillary isn't

[Major Hogwash]

17. None, that's why she won't compromise.

It's "all or nothing" for Hill's camp these days.

Because seriously, what the hell are Terry McAwful and Lanny Davis going to do for a living once Hillary is out of the race?