So what if Obama "stirred the pot" after Hillary suggested he could be assassinated

[ericgtr]

He and his campaign have every goddamned right to call her on that unthinkable comment. She is such a fucking loathsome human being. Only Hillary would make that sort of comment and then turn it around on the very person she attacked.

IMO Obama and his campaign haven't stirred this up nearly enough and should be hitting them like a jack hammer with it.

[Gore1FL]

1. I never really saw the stirring fom the campaign

I think it was projection for the sake of projection.

Sadly, for Hillary, it just keeps in a few more news cycles.

[PoliticalAmazon]

20. The premise of OP is correct (Obama has the right to call her on...

her assassination threat) but the accompanying modifier (Obama stirred the pot) is wrong. He didn't say anything immediately and when he did say something it was giving her the benefit of the doubt.

I disagree with his approach because with mentally unstable people like Bill and Hillary strong boundaries have to be drawn.

Now we see one of HIllary's friendson Fox News has jumped on the assassination bus.

[livetohike]

2. Before the assassination reference --- her campaign was

saying "Anything can happen" regarding Obama and the months up to June. (I don't know how to bold words, so put the emphasis on Anything.) And it will take "Anything" to happen for the Clintons to win this nomination. All their spinning numbers and continuous chanting about her supreme candidacy are getting monotonous.

[Cosmocat]

3. Nope ...

I continue to feel a genuine sense of pride in relation to him and his campaign ...

Were the players in this drama reversed, Hill's campaign would definitely use this to try to force him out the race ...

But, BO and his campaign's response was proportionate to what it was ... It has not place in the campaign, it was unfortunate and they were sure she didn't mean anything about it ...

THAT is who he is, intellectually honest ... HAVE to keep taking the high road ... It is why he maintains a high level of credibilty, and while it isn't WHY he does it with Hill, his treating her with the softest of touches will make it easier for her to come down and her supporters to fold into his camp ...

He is doing the right thing for the right reasons, and the positives extend in many directions ...

[gabeana]

4. Don't you know any attack on Hillary makes you a sexist

there is some simpleton on DU who thinks olbermann hates women because has criticized Clinton most recently for her remarks on Assassination.

[papau]

8. Only when you lie - as in this attack which RFK JR says was obviously not about Obama but was "June

[gabeana]

14. The other Kennedy's don't count?

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05252008/news/nationalnews/kennedys_feel_bobby_socked_112469.htm

Please don't use liar when you are a follower of a habitual liar

Tuzla, Family Leave Act, 1992, 1968 went into June, N. Ireland, Nafta, Mi/Fl, there's more

so be careful it is not a word you should use, there is a lot of irony when you use it.

[PoliticalAmazon]

22. Horseshit. I saw, heard and read her statements. It was clear she...

was raising the threat of assassination of Obama.

It could not have been "June" because the primary in which RFK ran only started in the first part of March (NH) and he didn't even join the primary until later. So we are talking 2-1/2 months, and that is NOT a long primary season by today's standards.

No, her real objective was to get the assassination threat out there, to either intimidate Obama into quitting or to prompt her fired up bigots to act on her prompt.

[VeraAgnes]

5. Your misrepresenting Hillary again.

Obama and Obama supporters are the Party Dividers with *bush rove tactics " as their guide. Unacceptable.

[madame defarge]

7. Hillary & her supporters are always the victims.

Always. No matter who says what. Unacceptable.

[Window]

39. Yep. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

[MercutioATC]

9. Obama refusing to jump on a Clinton "misspeak" (numerous times) is Rovian???

Nothing was said about her sniper comments (which were an outright lie) and the strongest comment from the Obama campaign about RFK was that it was an unfortunate choice of words and language like that does not belongin this campaign...and Obama even stated that he didn't believe Clinton meant anything by it.

Contrast that to the Clinton campaign (not just Clinton supporters) handing out "I'm not bitter" stickers at their rallies in PA.


Who's adopting Rove's tactics?

[ericgtr]

10. LOL.. Hillary is the only unaccptable person in this campaign

and she is in bed with Rove and FOX News, Hillary supporters latest favorites. The only love she gets is from the whacked out RW and maybe a few hard core dems.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

13. let me put this politely. You are nuts.

or delusional.
or a paid political hack for that devious, vile, reprehensible campaign.
or most likely of all, simply a liar.

[TahitiNut]

32. Please don't say "nuts" like it's a Bad Thing. (Use "bat-shit insane" in this case.)

Thanks.

* This is a public service posting on behalf of the International Association of Fruits & Nuts, Ad Hoc DU Chapter.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

34. damn. TN, I abjectly totally, completely, and sincerely apologize for that.

[TahitiNut]

35. Peace out, cousin.

:hi:

;-)

[gabeana]

17. You mean the Rove

that the Hill camp and Hill herself, whose talking points they have adopted.
you just walked into that:rofl:

[PoliticalAmazon]

23. Hillary's tactics have gone beyond Bush/Rove. She's now on to...

Augusto Pinochet tactics.

[yardwork]

24. I notice that a lot of new posters with old-fashioned women's names joined DU at about the same time

I'm not calling anyone out. I'm just pointing out an interesting phenomenon. At about the same time this spring, a slew of new posters with very old-fashioned quaint women's names joined DU and began defending Hillary even when her positions are indefensible.

The names are lovely.

[Swamp Rat]

36. Me too

The names are lovely. ;)

[TahitiNut]

31. Poor Hillary. So misunderstood. Her burden is so great. Poor Hillary.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/01/harpy_hero_heretic_hillary.html

[Swamp Rat]

37. *ring ring* ... John Conyers would like to speak to you.

:D

[IsItJustMe]

38. I think you are not right in the head. You know what I mean? One brick shy of a load.

[LakeSamish706]

6. As far as I recall they actually never stirred the pot at all... The Obama camp...

said something to the effect that it was an unfortunate thing for Clinton to have said and that was about all.

[Tom Rinaldo]

12. They circulated the KO transcript, so it didn't have to be their own words quoted

That has been how Obama's campaign has acted in the past also. Barack Obama rarely puts the hurt on Hillary directly. You can call it a good or a bad thing. It is politics.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

11. you mean like making "bitter" stickers to hand out during rallies?

uh Obama didn't stir the pot, how does it benefit him to encourage
the idiotic insane nutcases who want to hurt him?

[Evergreen Emerald]

15. ummm...HE MADE IT UP. That is not "stirring the pot" that is LYING

She said nothing about suggesting he should be assassinated. Just like she said nothing "Racist!"

And yet, he entices the masses with lies and distortions and then in front of the camera says the RIGHT THING.

And you all swoon, "he is so presidential" "look at him doing the right thing." loads of crap.

[hokies4ever]

25. Does Hillary hate Obama as much as you do?

:rofl:

[TahitiNut]

33. I notice your hobby is "hiking."

Why don't you go take a hike? :eyes:

[hokies4ever]

16. If this is stirring the pot, then what did Hillary do with bittergate?

I mean, she gave speeches about it, held some pressers, ran commercials, sent flyers in the mail (even in the Indiana primary). Hillary's campaign is hypocritical if they are complaining about "stirring the pot."

[Tom Rinaldo]

18. Clinton's campaign did "stir the pot" regarding Obama's "bitter" and "clinging" comments

No two ways about it, she did. Whereas she really didn't do so about Pastor Wright. She wasn't exactly silent on that topic but she answered direct questions about how she thinks she would have reacted herself were he her pastor. It wasn't her responsibility to duck those questions for Barack. Her stronger statements about the implications of that controversy were made in private in discussions with Super Delegates, and that to me is fair politics. However by contrast Hillary Clinton made a conscious effort to play up Obama's "bittergate" remarks against him. I agree with you there.

[hokies4ever]

19. She piled on Rev. Wright in the ABC Debate

Happily dropping the 'Hamas' and 'Farrakhan' bombs to scare whites into not voting for Obama. Also, I think that the media needs to call her campaign out on this hypocrisy.

On another point, why does Hillary make her superdelegate arguments public? She knows who they are and has their contact info. Why not just talk to them. I think she is purposefully trying to inflame her base to dislike Obama.

[Tom Rinaldo]

21. It probably helped Obama in an electoral sense

that he used that debate to put such clear distance between himself and Farrakhan, and Hamas also, regardless of what your or my feelings might be about Farrakhan and Hamas, and how valid or invalid the supposed issue is or was. Had Obama badly muffed that test, he would have been a weaker candidate in the Fall. That debate cleared the air on that question, and set the stage for Obama to make the type of presentation that he did in Florida last week.

I haven't paid close enough attention to know who is leaking what in the way of Super Delegate conversations. Every political reporter in the nation knows who every one of the SD's are, and I am sure they get countless opportunities to speak off the record.

[Garbo 2004]

28. Reportedly, the Clinton campaign was forwarding Wright videos to media before it finally hit MSM.

Along with other stuff (like Ayers). So while the campaign publically wasn't seen to be starting or stirring it up, they had been trying to get the media to cover potential "controversies" before the matters actually did finally hit the MSM. And then followed up, again not necessarily publically, when the media was on it.

The campaign publically might have had a "hands off" position, but they weren't necessarily uninvolved in promoting the controversies. I recall that at times the media recipients noted the source of the info as the Clinton campaign or that the Clinton camp had been trying to get the info into the media for months. So the campaign was seen to be doing what it publically said it wasn't involved in and was only responding to media reports (that they themselves had been instigating).

[Demobrat]

26. Funny, Hillary made the comment herself

and yet the Obama campaign didn't even try to capitalize on it the way the Clinton campaign did on comments made not by him, but by someone he knew. And still the Clintons play the victim.

[gregjones]

27. Great Post ericgtr

Black Americans, and many of all races are EXTREMELY disturbed by Hillary's insinuation of a possible assassination of Barack Obama. To imply that her reason for staying in the race is because anything can happen, then nonchalantly say that even Robert Kennedy was assassinated in June, meaning therefore she should stay in, is not only pitifully diobolical but incredibly dangerous.

As I read some of the comments, I sense that some do not understand the true impact of her deadly insinuation. Keep in mind, when it was first announced that Obama was running for President, the initial concern in Black America was his safety. "Would some nut sniper him"? Obama had to hire secret service security right out of the gate.....why? Because of the true possibilty of some nut doing harm to him or his family.

Also, during the last 50 years, the people who have been assassinated have ALL been leaders who were working toward equality for ALL. John F., Robert and of course Dr. King. So just the WORD assassination brings to us not only an extreme fear but is a reminder of the incredibly sad loss to America, particularly Blacks, at the hands of the sick and wicked. For Hillary Clinton, a so-called leader, to insinuate, for WHATEVER reason assassination....is beyond disgusting. It subliminally sparks the hatred, bigotry and destruction that most Americans have worked so hard to overcome.

Greg Jones
www.Blacks4Barack.org
A Multi-Racial Org...Dedicated To Truth !

[Duder]

30. Welcome to DU

Your comments echo a very good blog post I recently came across:
...

'As a child, I once came home, after hearing the standard “if you work hard enough, maybe one day you can be President” spiel at school, and quite happily informed my grandmother that all I had to do was work my butt off and maybe one day I could be President of the United States. My grandmoms, not one to harbor any illusions, informed me (this is obviously a paraphrase) that “no black person can become President of the United States. A black person would be killed before white folks would allow that to happen.” True story. Now, as a black woman that grew up in the Jim Crow South, her reasoning was not out of the question. I don’t believe that that’s true today, but from her vantage point, from her life experience, she had every right to believe what she was telling me, and that to tell me this was good advice. This is the context within which I hear Sen. Clinton’s statement. The context of my elders, the generations that came before me. And so while I no longer believe what my grandmoms told me oh so many years ago, I am still influenced and I still reverberate with her experiences and what she tried to teach me based on those experiences.'

...

http://slanttruth.com/2008/05/25/hillary-clintons-assassination-remark-why-it-matters-to-me/

[Radical Activist]

29. Ugly tactics should be revealed for what they are

and condemned. Obama did the right thing.