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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:00 PM
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HRC supporters, why are Wright, Bittergate, SOTU snub, etc. legit issues but assassination isn't?
Please explain to me why we have been told by many of you that so many of what we Obama supporters feel to be manufactured controversies were legitimate issues, but Hillary's quotes on RFK's assassination isn't?

First of all I do believe that Hillary bringing up assassination on more than one occasion is a legitimate issue, but I will also point out that given what has gone on in this campaign even if it wasn't a legitimate issue it should be fair play given some of the crap that has been used to attack Obama.

You can't have it both ways.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:04 PM
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1. Let me get this straight,
you want to make assassination a topic of legitimate political discussion?

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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:06 PM
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4. Should bitter have been? Should Wright have been? Should snubgate have been?
:kick:
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:05 PM
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2. None are "issues"
They are all mere distractions to keep us from the very serious issues facing the fading Republic.
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:05 PM
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3. I've been shot down so many times by Hillary supporters...I'm convinced they are clueless.
Edited on Sat May-24-08 06:09 PM by samdogmom
The lesson I learned is that Obama can not say anything controversial. An Obama supporter can not say anything controversial. But Hillary and her supporters get carte blanche! Go figure!

I'm just proud of the high road Obama has taken regarding this mess. He's quite a contrast to Hillary's answer to the Rev. Wright story! Don't you agree?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:33 PM
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12. Well, you know, she's just SO tired, and campaigning is hard work. I can understand perfectly her...
...need to hint about her opponents murder.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:06 PM
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5. We should ask the
mediawhores, too.

clinton supporters will try and gag you with red fooking herrings.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:12 PM
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6. Well, Wright was Obama's spiritual mentor for 17 years or so
and stood up and accused the U.S. of using Aids as a form of genocide, thus insulting Americans as a whole. Obama said Wright was like family until Wright got so kooky that Obama threw him under the bus.

Bittergate was an insult directed at millions of people.

What Hillary said was a historical fact. She never mentioned Obama, it had nothing to do with Obama, it was just a statement of fact. Lots of things can be said that have absolutely NOTHING to do with Obama and this was one of those things. Really, the world doesn't rotate around him and not everything is about him.

If you can't see the difference you really need to work on your comprehension skills.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:16 PM
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7. give Hill credit - she managed to get a lot of airtime free that she couldn't afford to buy
:eyes:

i can't say she came off in a "positive" light as a result, in fact it tarnished her image almost as much as Snipergate, but heck, at least the talking heads were mentioning her

:eyes:
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:23 PM
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8. HA! Touche!
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:03 PM
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18. Projecting? is that why Obama makes so many gaffes?
BTW, has anybody found a video of his "famous" anti-war speech that nobody can find a video of?
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:25 PM
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9. I was unaware, Not good, not good at all.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:28 PM
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10. And who was Hillary's? Lee Harvey Oswald?
She seems to talk about snipers and assassins a lot.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:01 PM
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17. So does Obama's wife....n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:12 PM
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20. nanny nanny boo boo!


:rofl:

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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:30 PM
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11. oh pullleeeaaaasssseeee! Just about everyone knows it was a MAJOR goof on Hillary's part....
Even ABC, a network that has been gentle on Hillary, led the Friday evening news with Hillary's gaffe. They tried to make it sound like just a terrible mistake instead of a hopelessly terrible mistake, but even they knew that Hillary goofed!

Of course, for a LONG TIME, we have come to know that members of the Hillary Herd believe their leader cannot do any wrong, cannot make a mistake, worship the ground she walks on....

Hillary goofed. She was trying to explain why she isn't dropping out....in this context she points out Bill Clinton wrapping it up in June and RFK getting shot in June?

At very best, this was a serious lapse of judgement on Hillary's part. A blind spot in her consciousness that would show she often doesn't have a clue what she is saying. Or, when she gets tired, which she seems to get tired a hell of a lot, she uses getting tired as an excuse for making lapses of judgement. Who is really ready at 3AM? I'd say NOT someone who screws up when she is tired!!!!

We all can see the worse interpretations of her remarks. This is NOT the first time she has brought up RFK's assassination.

I would like to know what is going on in her head? Even if Obama got assassinated (something just as likely to happen to Hillary or McCain, by the way...not just black folks).....Hillary would be no less likely to regain stature as a potential nominee if she had dropped out already. At this sad point, she could always re-start her campaign. There is nothing in the rules that says that if the front runner or nominee is assassinated, his successor has to be currently running....
So her bringing up RFK was ridiculous and irrelevant from the get go.

I'm sorry. But just how many idiotic things must Hillary say that the Reps would use against her before the Hillary Herd realizes she is running around in a circle?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:35 PM
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14. Your spin is disgusting....
"Its not about Obama"- Oh bull fucking shit. She was asked why she doesn't leave the race and she mentions assassination. Who is she aiming that at, Mercer? Come on.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:06 PM
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19. You've shown me things in a new light
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:21 PM
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21. At least I'm smart enough to not defend the undefensable
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:06 PM
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22. There was absolutely no reason for her to bring that up?
:kick:
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Combative Democrat Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:34 PM
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13. Because "assassination" is taken out of context n/t
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:37 PM
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15. None of them are legiimate
Edited on Sat May-24-08 06:37 PM by Redbear
the only way Wright was quasi-legitimate was that the republicans were already planning to use that in the fall.

We have to avoid personality issues. We have the GOP beat hands down on issues, so they will try and make this election about everything but the issues.
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