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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:32 PM
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Anna Quindlen on HRC...The Highest Road
It can still be a victory lap even if you don't win. Hillary Clinton should be thinking about her legacy, and how best to use it.

On his last night as president of the United States, Bill Clinton issued a pardon for a man named Marc Rich. Later Clinton would write a long op-ed piece on the reasons, but the reason seemed obvious to observers: the fugitive financier was what just plain folks call stinking rich, and his ex-wife had given nearly a half-million dollars to Clinton's presidential library. Even the president's customary allies did not find it in their hearts to jusify his action. Yet in some way the pardon was an apt coda to an administration that seemed to veer from constructive to self-destructive so often that the American people developed whiplash.

The Family and Medical Leave Act, and Monica Lewinsky. The elimination of the deficit, and the Rich pardon. The supremely eloquent speaker, and the man who said, "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." Bill giveth, Bill taketh away, mainly from his own reputation. A presidency with an ace domestic agenda somehow became a dizzying slip-and-slide that made you want to scream:

Legacy, legacy, legacy, legacy, legacy.

It never seemed likely that the highly disciplined Hillary Rodham Clinton would require the same message. But now it's her turn.

In recent weeks Senator Clinton has gone down a dark road from a Democratic perspective. Whether embracing a bogus gas-tax break, vowing to "totally obliterate" Iran if it goes after Israel or noting that hardworking white folks like her better than her black opponent, she seemed to be running a tutorial in Karl Rove 101, the Republican primer of diversion, aggression and division. Behind all this was clearly a means/ends argument: she would do what she needed to do to win, and then later do the right thing. The problem is that usually by the end, you've become the means.

The rest of the article at the link:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/137511/page/1
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:40 PM
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1. the dark road just got darker
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:41 PM
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2. Sadly, it did...
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:41 PM
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3. And, hopefully, much shorter.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:42 PM
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5. I am very hopeful for that as well.
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:42 PM
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4. I guess Anna Piece meant something else Yesterday
Before Hillary "assissCACA" moment
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:13 PM
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6. kick for you my friend (nt)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:16 PM
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8. My dear Straight Story!
Thank you so much!

:pals:
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:14 PM
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7. ..." by the end, you've become the means" Wow, so true.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:17 PM
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10. I believe Anna Quindlen nails it...
Thanks for participating!
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:41 AM
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16. That's the most eloquent line in the whole piece.
The sad song of everyone who felt they had a truly valuable relationship with someone else, to the point where they gave and gave and gave...only to realize in the end that nothing was being given back, that they were only being used.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:17 PM
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9. It breaks my heart as a Democrat.
I once adored the Clintons, but this ... it's too much.

I have gone from being furious to just sad. Sad for the party. Sad for the nation. :(

We need to reach down and reclaim our mission statement as Democrats.

I hope the Clintons heed your wise advice.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:19 PM
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12. It breaks my heart as well...
I suspect HRC is beyond any good advice now, unfortunately...

This is really what's needed:

We need to reach down and reclaim our mission statement as Democrats.

I thank you!

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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:18 PM
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11. Rec'd for common sense
Something desperately needed around here recently...
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:20 PM
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13. My dear jasonc...
I always want to spread the light, and not the heat...

Anna Quindlen really came to my rescue today!

Thank you...

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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:22 PM
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14. Thank you Peggy
for this common sense post. I hope it does not get lost in the storm.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:25 PM
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15. Well, since it made the Greatest Page...
More people will see it...

We do what we can, don't we?

Thanks for helping me get there!

:hug:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:14 PM
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17. maybe this will help
:kick:

:hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:42 PM
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22. Thank you for the kick, my dear AtomicKitten!
That was very sweet of you...:hug:
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:40 PM
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27. Keep spreading the light, Peggy, keep spreading the light
"It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness." - Eleanor Roosevelt
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:07 PM
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29. Hear, hear....
Something desperately needed around here recently...

Thought this bit very insightful:

"Who believed the woman would be the one to snag the support of working-class men? Who realized her gender wouldn't seem a bit historic to young people reared on equal opportunity? Who knew the money would go to her newbie opponent despite her network of contacts and her lifetime in the political trenches? And who thought the progressive feminist with the Ivy League credentials would ever take a campaign detour in which her slogan might as well have been "the candidate of white folks who believe despite all evidence to the contrary that the other guy is a Muslim"?"
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:17 PM
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18. OT - how can a post with 20 "recs" have only 10 "views?"
Is there something wrong with the DU software or am I stupid, or both? :dunce:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:39 PM
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20. My dear tabasco!
None of your ideas apply!

We were at Level 2 for awhile, and during that time, no views are recorded!

That's why!

For awhile, my thread had more recs than comments as well!

:hi:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:55 PM
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23. Thank you.
I figured it was something like that. :hi:
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:23 PM
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19. And somewhere Laura Bush* is just as giddy as a schoolgirl....
Edited on Sat May-24-08 12:25 PM by Raster
...a schoolgirl that just ran over her ex-boyfriend. 'cause the more they talk about Hillary, the less they talk about George. Maybe, just maybe, Pickles and Goober can slip out the back of 1600 and make it to Highland Park without the torch and pitchfork crowd catching on.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:41 PM
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21. Indeed!
I think we won't be distracted from them too long...;-)
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:23 PM
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24. I LURVE Anna Quindlen -- she has such an amazing way with words.
I've admired her columns for years - so many good ones, and on so many diverse topics. IMHO, if you don't read her regularly, you should. Columns on her house being a Barbie-free zone, on abortion and teen pregnancy, on reading - "I would be most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves". She had a good column a few months back on the age issue re McCain. The column she wrote after Andrea Yates drowned her kids was incredible: http://www.fact.on.ca/news/news0107/nw010702.htm

I haven't read any of her fiction, but she has published several books of her columns, and they are all gems. She also wrote one called "How Reading Changed My Life".
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:56 PM
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25. CalPeg makes the front page!
Cool.

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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:35 PM
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26. Thanks for bringing forward that great essay
Anna Quindlen is right - it is time for Hillary Clinton to think of the legacy of her campaign. Is being compared to Ralph Nader what she wants?
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:54 PM
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28. You're welcome!
I wonder if she has even given it a moment's thought, what with her involvement in the presidential race.
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:08 PM
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30. The Clinton "legacy" is toast
It didn't have to be that way, but they chose the dark side of politics.
History will not judge them kindly. I once had great respect and admiration
for Bill. He was THE Mr President. No more. I wish they wound just go
the fuck away, I'm sad to say.

On a lighter note: :hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:17 PM
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31. Back atcha, sweetie...
I agree, regretfully.

And Anna has put it so well!

:hi:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:30 PM
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32. HRC has destro yed her future in politics ---
I hope she's opposed by a stronger non-DLC female candidate for her Senate seat ---

What we do know about HRC is that given the option of the high road or the low road, HRC
always takes the low road ---

HRC will not be remembered in this campaign with anything but disdain ---




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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:52 PM
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33. nice one Ms C-P
thanks
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:35 PM
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34. You're welcome, my dear RainDog...
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BayjanDem Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:02 AM
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35. Great article
Thanks for posting. I believe Hillary will fix this, and in the end both her and Bill will be fine.
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BigAnth Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:07 AM
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36. K&R
Excellent analysis and insights. Thanks for posting this.
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