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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:52 PM
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Here is PROOF she played the assassination card:
Edited on Fri May-23-08 10:02 PM by MethuenProgressive
From http://www.racewire.org/archives/2007/05/michelle_obama_for_president.html:

When asked if she’s concerned about Obama being assassinated because of his race and position, Mrs. Obama said: “as a Black man, he could get shot at a gas station.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyUsDOeFo24
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:53 PM
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:54 PM
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Aren't you pleasant?
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:55 PM
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8. OK Sooner, I have agreed with most of what you have said today, and I hope you take this as intended
but you need to back away from the keyboard for a spell.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:08 PM
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18. RFK Jr. says you are mistaken to take offense.
RFK, Jr. On Hillary's Remarks
By Big Tent Democrat, Section Off Topic
Posted on Fri May 23, 2008 at 08:39:14 PM EST

“I’ve heard her make that argument before,” Mr. Kennedy said, speaking on his cell phone as he drove to the family compound in Hyannis for the holiday weekend. “It sounds like she was invoking a familiar historical circumstance in support of her argument for continuing her campaign.” . . . is support of Mrs. Clinton has not wavered.
More from RFK, Jr.:

I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband's 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense."


http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/23/213914/479
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:21 PM
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30. What does RFK have to do with this...
this is about Hillary using a candidates assasination to justify her staying in the race.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:23 PM
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37. Right....
:eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:29 PM
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:51 PM
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58. Why does the BO camp suddenly hate RFK?
Statement from the Argus Leader

The Argus Leader’s Executive Editor Randell Beck issued the following statement today:

"The context of the question and answer with Sen. Clinton was whether her continued candidacy jeopardized party unity this close to the Democratic convention. Her reference to Mr. Kennedy's assassination appeared to focus on the timeline of his primary candidacy and not the assassination itself."
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:56 PM
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62. The BO camp suddenly hates RFK?!!!
Really? What did Obama say about RFK?

Hillary is the one who thinks RFK's death is a good talking point. (she has used it several times)
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:09 PM
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67. "As a troll I wouldn't expect you to." -- LOL! Post of the day! n/t
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:25 PM
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40. His words have everything to do with it, are you kidding me?
Do you believe he is lying? If not then your forced to believe that hurting Obama was NOT her intent...decisions, decisions.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #40
52. Again... RFK Jr. doesn't magically nullify the situation.
The comments weren't offensive to the memory of RFK. They were offensive to Obama and his supporters that she is implying that she should stay in because RFK was assassinated (and thusly someone else could be assasinated..wink wink)

I never said anything about RFK JR. lying. I think he is wrong.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #30
124. WOW BOBots really have no comprehension skills. Frightening
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #124
128. Great comeback, Sirhan
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #128
138. "Sirhan"?
That's a truly disgusting 'comeback' - but if scoring pretend 'points' on an Internet bulletin board keeps you off the streets, it's a price we'll have to accept.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #18
63. Wasn't he a child when his father was killed?
My husband was at the hotel for the Party that night and many of my friends.
They never got over the horror.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:45 AM
Response to Reply #63
82. Yes, and he obviously doesnt give a shit if it happens again which is why he's no crusading populist
unlike his father.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #82
139. There goes RFK Jr, thrown under the BO Bus!
Half the Party is now 'dead to you'...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #82
146. Is RFK Jr. planning to run for her seat in NY
if she lies her way to the WH?

A child of one of the politicians is looking forward to being Sen. from NY.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:45 AM
Response to Reply #63
83. he was a teenager when his dad was killed.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:41 AM
Response to Reply #18
80. And yet you are attacking Michelle Obama for warning against this kind of rhetoric
directed at her husband.

Some HRC supporters secretly hope Michelle is right. that's the whole point!!!!
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:44 AM
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81. It sounds like RFK Jr. is implying that Obama suffering RFK's fate is just par for the course.
You're not even supposed to talk about it, the best part of this man
(RFK Jr.) is not fit to have crawled down his father's leg.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:22 AM
Response to Reply #81
95. What a silly, unreleated to reality, bogus comment to make.
Are you OK?
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #18
112. The insult was to Obama, not RFK. nt
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #112
115. Saying that primary races traditionaly last into June is an "insult"? How so?
The Followers are really reaching with this latest piece of Hate.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #18
121. K&R

:kick:
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #18
137. RFK Jr has his opinion. He supports Hillary, and that is also his opinion...
I can't understand him continuing to support Hillary after she pimped his father's assassination for campaign purposes, but that's just me.

My father devoted his life to his family. He taught us loyalty to family by his own devoted loyalty to us. If my father had been murdered for political purposes, and a politician pimped his death for a cheap political point, I would have stood up for my father's legacy and called out the pimp politician.

But that's just me. RFK Jr is obviously different. Not good or bad. Just different.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:53 PM
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2. I knew a white bigot who got shot at a gas station
Edited on Fri May-23-08 09:53 PM by havocmom
Hillary has a rather narrow view or she is sowing the seeds of hatred and violence.

edited for typo
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:54 PM
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3. Clinton didn't say it. n/t
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. tripe
.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:54 PM
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4. It's just a card to you people.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:56 PM
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9. "you people"?
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Judge Judith Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:54 PM
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5. tasteless
Shame on you.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #5
31. The hyper-outrage invented by the Obama camp today? Yes it was tasteless. I mock it.
Mock, mock, mock.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #31
44. Obama's campaign has nothing to do with any anger we feel.
But you Hillary people blame him for everything from dry rot to the plague, so I'm not surprised.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:46 AM
Response to Reply #31
76. You are playing follow the sociopathic leader, today again
She suggests that she should stay in the race because her competitor might be assassinated, and then she would win the nomination.

Mock all you will...the leader you follow has no conception of what it is to lead.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:55 AM
Response to Reply #76
151. Your Leader says you are wrong. It's your duty to Follow.
"She suggests that she should stay in the race because her competitor might be assassinated"
That's the silliest thing I've read about this ObamaCamp production today.
Of course, I admit I've just logged on...
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #5
56. The OP has a history of totally tasteless threads here.
Par for the seedy course.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #56
116. We'll miss him/her/it after the nomination
wonder what he wants written on his tombstone? "McCain '08"?
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:57 PM
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10. Kick so everyone sees what kind of person MP is.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:58 PM
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11. Seconded
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:06 PM
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15. Thirded (and kicked BTW)
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:58 PM
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71. Kick again.
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:15 AM
Response to Reply #71
72. Another Kick to let everyone get to know the OP.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:23 AM
Response to Reply #72
97. Thanks!
Edited on Sat May-24-08 11:27 AM by MethuenProgressive
Usually when I mock the unreasonable Hatred form the HillHate wing they alertbomb the poor mods, glad you've seen the error of your ways!
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #97
102. Alerting only hides the twisted thinking of irrational Hillaryis44ers
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #102
103. Twisted thinking: "races historically go into June" = "Hillary wants BO killed"
Twisted Karl Rove/Donna Brazile hate speech.
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #103
104. Keep kicking yourself. I'll help. BTW jaccording to Godwins law
you will be calling us NAZIs in about 3 more posts.

You've already resorted to false Rove connection.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #103
106. have a look folks they want you to follow them
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #97
105. no i think its time to drag you
out into the daylight and see if you catch fire
kicked so people can see how low hillary shills will go
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #10
35. Can you explain what kind of person you think he is?
I'm serious, I can't watch the video, can someone please explain it for me?
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #35
45. It was a 60 minutes interview and Michelle was asked if she worried about assassination...
She gave a response that she thought about it but never lost any sleep because Obama could get shot going to the gas station. There was no "assassination card" played, the interviewer asked her if she worried about assassination, she gave a response and her response was basically "don't worry about it".
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #45
49. I'm really sorry, I lived through President Kennedy's assasination
though I was young, I recall my family visiting his grave as soon as they allowed the public to properly mourn, I remember Bobby, I'm really sorry, but this attack on Hillary is not right, its just not right, at no time did she ever suggest that Obama could be done in, I don't wish to say the word next to his name, gives me the creeps..

But enough already , hate if you want, but at least be honest in your hate
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #49
54. If you are going to accuse me of being hateful and dishonest then tell me what I said...
Edited on Fri May-23-08 10:47 PM by MN Against Bush
I simply told you the content of the video that was posted as you requested, is there any facts in my post that you want to dispute? If you are going to accuse me of being dishonest then I want to know which part of my post was dishonest? Which part was hateful? If you can't answer that then I think we know who is really being dishonest.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:58 AM
Response to Reply #54
74. Hmmmm, I am sorry, kind of losing steam, if I offended you I seriously meant
no harm, I just wish the irrational ugliness from far to many would just go away and not you were not either,..
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:47 AM
Response to Reply #35
84. Someone who MOCKS Michelle Obama as an "emotional black woman" for fearing her husbands safety
And views the subject as so improbable as to be a joking matter worth
discussing in polite company alongside other unlikely scenarios for a
Hillary nomination.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:59 PM
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12. too many wild berries in the woods...sad old man, mp.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 09:59 PM by asSEENonTV
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:00 PM
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13. Let's draw the positive from the clip though Obama lives by the ideal home of the brave...
Edited on Fri May-23-08 10:01 PM by barack the house
There can be no patriotism than saying I will risk it all for my country. That was his flag pin from day one.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:01 PM
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14. Link to source where this was first published:
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #14
20. in it's context it is absolutely fine- In the context you used it- well-
to put it kindly-

you seem to want to follow in Hillary's downward spiral-


:shrug:

peace~
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. "context"? You speak of "context"?
Exactly.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. "she"-
Deception is not a good quality in anyone.
you aren't fooling anyone but yourself you sad old fool-

peace~
and good-bye
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #24
108. watch em squirm forks
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:53 AM
Response to Reply #20
85. Yes, MethuenProgressive is mocking the idea of Obama's safety
Edited on Sat May-24-08 04:59 AM by Leopolds Ghost
Saying the only people who are worried about Obama's safety
are an "emotional black woman" who presumably meets all the definitions
of a stereotypical "crazy black woman" whom MP would never
vote for. I mean, rural gas stations dangerous to a black man?
Come on! Why next Michelle will be claiming MLK's death was a
hate crime and not some random slaying!

"It's not an issue, running for President is dangerous business!"
the Hillary shills will say. "Michelle is looking for a scapegoat...
Gas stations are dangerous places!"

Hillary will take her chances because she knows the RW and Media
value her life (as an unpopular figurehead of the opposition party)
far more highly than that of any black man.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:29 AM
Response to Reply #85
99. I mock the silly hate-controlled flipping out over nothing by the DUbamas
She was giving examples of contests that lasted into June.
Only the wickedly perverted Hate goons could try to sell that as "hoping BO is killed."
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:06 PM
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16. There is a big difference. But you know that.
Michelle was referring to random violence. Random violence, unfortunately, is something (black) men have to deal with on a daily basis.

Your candidate referred to directed violence. Obama is ahead, he IS (going to be) the democratic nominee, and your candidate is suggesting she stay in the race because, "you know, anything can happen."

I certainly hope your candidate isn't wishing it on him, but I would not put it past her. As you told me before, pay attention.


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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. don't waste your time. mp is an extreme fanatic - he'll be gone in a few weeks
Edited on Fri May-23-08 10:10 PM by asSEENonTV
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #16
23. You "would not put it past her" to wish Obama was killed?
Your candidate referred to directed violence. Obama is ahead, he IS (going to be) the democratic nominee, and your candidate is suggesting she stay in the race because, "you know, anything can happen."

I certainly hope your candidate isn't wishing it on him, but I would not put it past her.Text


She was talking about the race lasting til June. Your spin is insulting to the memory of RFK.
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:19 PM
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28. She said her husband was running until June.
She then said RFK was running in June but was assassinated. We know she cannot possibly (or logically) think she will pull it out in June as her husband did. What is left?

My spin is not an insult to RFK. If it is an insult, it is to your candidate.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:07 PM
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17. I don't know you, all I know are your posts
I'm glad I don't know you.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:26 PM
Response to Reply #17
41. Truth hurts, eh?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #41
48. Don't know you either
all i know is what you do here --beat up on the likely nominee.

and i'm glad i don't know you.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #48
68. Link?
Your candidate is a person, like everyone else. He's inexperienced, has weak public policy, is unprepared to serve and is running a nasty divisive campaign.

If you have a problem with it, defend it or take it up with him.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:52 AM
Response to Reply #68
90. your candidate is a person too
with weaknesses too.

unlike you, if Hillary had the same number of votes and delegates as Obama does now, I would be defending her and trying to get other people to vote for her --UNLIKE YOU.

that's the difference. i simply want a Democrat to win in November, and by now I'm not going to undermine the likely nominee. you are quite happy to do that.

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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:10 PM
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21. It was nice not knowing you. Bye.
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:11 PM
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22. Except Michelle Obama isn't waiting around for him to get killed to take the nomination
And she hasn't been in politics for 30 years.


Nice try.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #22
27. You read too much DU.
In the real world, what you claim happened never did.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:17 PM
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26. These Obama supporters
are in faux-outrage mode. They want to believe the worst and are not capable of rational thinking. I'm sorry for all the insults thrown your way, MethuenProgressive. Seems anything goes now on DU.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:20 PM
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29. One above says she thinks HRC might want BO killed!
"I certainly hope your candidate isn't wishing it on him, but I would not put it past her."

Unfuckingbelievable...
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:31 PM
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47. It is unfuckingbelievable....
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #47
65. The Obama Camp has really embarassed themselves today on DU.
Even Obamamann was backing off in his late edition.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:58 AM
Response to Reply #29
78. I remember you involved in the "KO wanting to kill Hillary" plot.
Edited on Sat May-24-08 01:58 AM by cottonseed
You're no daisy.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:19 PM
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123. There was a "KO wanting to kill Hillary plot"? Link?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #26
34. Let's compare outrages eh?
Obama possibly snubbing a Hillary handshake during the state of the union =freakout, calls of sexism, point by point analysis of the 3 pictures of the "event"

Hillary using a candidates assasination as a talking point for why should stay in the race = eh... no big deal



You guys/gals are jumping the shark...big time.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:29 PM
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43. HRC was talking about races lasting til June. Gave two examples. MO talks about BO getting shot.
The pretend lack of reading skills by the BOs today shames them.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:39 PM
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51. What did RFK's ASSASSINATION have to do with the examples...
There have been dozens of candidates who have campaigned through June Reagan in 76, Teddy in 80, Mondale in 88 etc...

If she wanted to use RFK.. she could have just said RFK cam pained into June. But she didn't say that. She said he was assassinated in June. What the hell did his assassination have to do with her giving examples of campaigns going into June.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:45 PM
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55. Statement from Hillary Clinton, transcript of comment BO's camp is faking outrage over:
Edited on Fri May-23-08 10:49 PM by MethuenProgressive

"Earlier today I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Senator Kennedy waged in California in June 1992 and 1968 and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nomination primary contests that go into June.
That’s a historic fact. The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that, whatsoever. My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to, and I’m honored to hold Senator Kennedy’s seat in the United States Senate from the state of New York and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family."

Transcript from the Argus-Leader's editorial board meeting:

HRC: People have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa.

Q: Why?
HRC: I don't know. I don't know. I find it curious. Because it is unprecedented in history. I don’t understand it. Between my opponent and his camp and some in the media there has been this urgency to end this. And historically, that makes no sense. So I find it a bit of a mystery.

Q: So you don't buy the party unity argument?

HRC: I don’t because again I've been around long enough.
My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right?

We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don’t understand it. There's lots of speculation about why it is.

Q: What is your speculation?

HRC: I don't know. I find it curious. And I don't want to attribute motives or strategies to people because I don't really know, but it's a historical curiosity to me.

Statement from the Argus Leader

The Argus Leader’s Executive Editor Randell Beck issued the following statement today:

"The context of the question and answer with Sen. Clinton was whether her continued candidacy jeopardized party unity this close to the Democratic convention. Her reference to Mr. Kennedy's assassination appeared to focus on the timeline of his primary candidacy and not the assassination itself."

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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #55
60. She didn't mention RFK campaigning in June...
she mentioned him getting assassinated in June. Big difference. What does his assassination have to do with campaigns going on through June? (and yes I understand he was assassinated on the campaign trail)
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:01 PM
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64. "We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California." You think he was surfing?
Maybe visiting Disneyland?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #64
70. Again what did that fact that he was assassinated have to do with Hillary's answer to the question?
If she was just pointing to examples of previous people who happened to campaign in June...why didn't she do that. Instead she mentions that candidates have gotten assassinated in June.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #64
117. Why use him as an example at all?
BTW, your screenname has been given to the Secret Service. They might have a few questions for you.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #55
110. and shes lying to boot
or is it just mis speaking again
bill was done before june in 92 it was 96 that he was still out in june
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #43
109. first lady michelle obama was
answering a direct question on the subject of assasination and stated her husband could get shot right now just for being in a gas station

hillary has refrenced rfk 3 times total attached to the "anything could happen" theme

its apples and oranges

and your apples?
they are full of worms
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tranche Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:22 PM
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32. Go back to defending Hillary's statements.
That looked stupid, but at least it was less stupid that what you're doing now.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:22 PM
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33. Obama's wife said this about her husband?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #33
38. Yes
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #33
39. Yep. The youtube link is in the OP.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 10:25 PM by MethuenProgressive
But what I've done is mock the "outrage" of today's hysterical silliness.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #39
46. Join the club, I have finaly earned ignores from people, took three
years for such to occur, makes you wonder what is going on...

If she said that, when we all know Sen Clinton did NOT speak those words than she is the quilty one like it or not that is deserving of all this outrage...


Sen Clinton is no angel and she should be called on some things but this? If the video is correct, and his own wife stated something like that the outrage on what Sen Clinton said yesterday no longer holds water in that it cannot be used to bash her yet again...
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:42 AM
Response to Reply #46
87. Honestly, believe me or don't, but I just don't see the connection.
Q: Are you worried about your husbands safety?
A: No more than usual.

How does that compare with

Q: why are you still in the race?
A: Because Obama might still get shot in the head.

???
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #46
111. a direct response to a direct question
is not the same as making it a stump speech item
spin spin spin
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:23 PM
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36. Typical of them
The Obama's are such crass, bitter opportunists. Both of them should be in therapy.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:37 PM
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50. Deleted message
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Blondbostonian Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:54 AM
Response to Reply #36
91. I hope to God you are
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #36
118. Your name's been given to the Secret Service
Expect a visit sometime in the near future.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #118
122. For saying "they need therapy"?
You're silly.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #118
136. Here you go, big talker.
Step right up and turn in all the rational people on DU to the Secret Service.

http://www.secretservice.gov/contact.shtml

No wonder they call some Dems moonbats, lol. :D
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #136
140. Me too!
Send in my posts!
:rofl:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:43 PM
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53. WOW...
Edited on Fri May-23-08 10:46 PM by themartyred
so inappropriate - Obama is not like the criminal element that gets shot at gas stations... scary wording by her. Sometimes I think she needs to not speak for him... just my opinion. my best friend said the same thing about a different issue (the one about being only proud of her country for the 1st time ever b/c of Obama doing well, that doesn't play well with most people, just an opinion)
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #53
57. random violence against black men
doesn't imply that the victims have done anything wrong. i can't count how many honors students who were black have been murdered at random in various parts of San Francisco.

but you don't know what you're talking about --not that the ignorance stopped you.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:41 AM
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75. like random violence doesn't happen to all colors - good grief - that's why
she's not the candidate. I saw a little white girl got hit with a stray bullet recently. I've seen Spanish, Asian, Caucasian people being the victim of random violence a lot on the news, too!

And, saying for the first time that she's proud of her country - when her husband is trying to run for president is a HORRIBLE mistake... there's generations of people who's families have fought and or died in battle to defend this country and they take something like that from her as a horrible insult! Even if she feels it personally, it should not be spoken because her husband's going to be running against a war hero.

Saying crap like that again will harm his chances. I just asked 3 people if they heard of it, all 3 had, and they don't like her, which I did not know. She's a liability if she keeps doing that, and we need him in the White House in the worst way after 8 years of dumbass.

Your final sentence was childish.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:45 AM
Response to Reply #75
89. black men are far more likely to be the vitctims of random violence
than any other group. that was the point. i was hoping you knew that, but you didn't.

which means that i guess my last sentence was correct, if not childish.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #89
130. I disagree
the only reason Barack is at risk is because he's running for president. Before this he was no more likely to be injured or killed by random violence at a gas station in a bad part of town than any other white person that lived in the area who worked there.

Random violence occurring more to people of his color is a result of population of those areas being more black. So, it does not mean a man of his moral strength who isn't involved in pimping, drug trading, hustlin' of any sort is any more likely to get hurt by gunfire than a Caucasian/Indian/Spanish/Asian man or woman who frequents the same places as much as he would.

I'm 100% behind Obama's candidacy, it's just comments like these are what scare off a lot of white voters - people that I got to vote for Kerry last time over the SOB. This time, nearly half of them are saying they feel better with McCain - that is aggravating. I haven't heard much from her lately - perhaps she's learning.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #130
134. i don't think what she said was screened for primetime either
it's not what i would have said, but they asked her a question and that was her answer, it is defensible, even if not 100%, nevertheless, she's not running for president.

but what i was taking issue with was the suggestion that she said Obama was at risk because of things he might be doing that would make him a more likely target (like he was into drugs or hanging with the wrong crowd). take a look at the string of posts that prompted mine and you will see the context i was arguing against that was posted by one in particular here.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #134
148. ah! yes.
I think all will be well again, a few weeks after the agitator has dropped out in a few days (how I pray). I realize I have no idea how BADLY I would do interviews and off the cuff quick-hit questions. I commend them for doing their best, even Hill (no, not really, lol). I also realize this is their first go at a national race, as most candidates typically have tried before or had connections being involved in it (Hill's with Bill), so they're going to flub a lil.

On to the White House!

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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #75
98. You need to visit certain gas stations in this country
and you'll understand what she's talking about. I've been to a few gas stations in DC where I bet you would be too scared to even get out of your car.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #98
129. exactly - ANY race can get killed at these places
I've been at them, too! As were other white people. I went to some stations in downtown Atlanta where it felt like at any moment gunfight might break out and, everyone seemed hyper-alerted to the fact of where they were at. I understand what she's saying, but it can happen to anyone is all I'm saying.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #57
113. Exactly.
MO's comment is absolutely unrelated to Hillary's new strategy to win the nomination.

This shows how desperate they are.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:51 PM
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59. Barack can get shot going to the gas station,” Michelle Obama said
and in the interview, Obama’s wife plays race card on ‘60 Minutes’. And does anyone think Obama pumps his own gas? I don’t think so….she comes off as some militant black woman that would never miss an opportunity to slam the US.

And about the HRC statement I will just add Robert Kennedy Jr.'s words. "I’ve heard her make that argument before,” “It sounds like she was invoking a familiar historical circumstance in support of her argument for continuing her campaign.” . More from RFK, Jr.:

I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband's 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense."

Well - if RFK's namesake is not upset with Hillary and understands what she was trying to say- maybe some of you should CHILL!

Shalom
Ben David
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #59
61. The paper she gave the interview to has put out a statement:
Statement from the Argus Leader

The Argus Leader’s Executive Editor Randell Beck issued the following statement today:

"The context of the question and answer with Sen. Clinton was whether her continued candidacy jeopardized party unity this close to the Democratic convention. Her reference to Mr. Kennedy's assassination appeared to focus on the timeline of his primary candidacy and not the assassination itself."
----------
Nuf sed.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #59
69. "some militant black woman that would never miss an opportunity to slam the US."
You make a statement like that and then you accuse her of playing the "race card". Your post was disgusting and you should be ashamed. Trying to fan the flames of racism by warning of "militant black women" is disgusting and has no place on this board.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #59
120. Allahu Akhbar to you too.
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masshole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:09 PM
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66. what a warm and happy refuge this thread is
OK, so she didn't mean it the way it comes across to many people, that she was simply trying to show other past races haven't been won until June (that's the argument, right?).

So why even bring up RFK or 1968? It's a poor analogy.
In 1968 the first primary - NH, wasn't held until MARCH. Only THREE months and 13 Primaries were completed before California, compared with FIVE months and 28 primaries in 2008.

Big difference wouldn't you say?
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:53 AM
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73. Another Kick to show the OPs brilliant personality.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #73
94. Thanks! I openly mock the HillHater's twisted "logic" of hate!
Mock, mock, mock.
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:56 AM
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77. Last kick of the night for MPs " wisdom"
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #77
92. HillHaters twist a comment about June into a Death Wish for BO - gleefully
Edited on Sat May-24-08 11:18 AM by MethuenProgressive
That's not wisdom, that's ignorance on a grand scale.
Thanks for the kick.
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #92
101. My pleasure, anything to expose darkness to the light.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:07 AM
Response to Original message
79. Proof that political speech has found new levels of stupidity:
Edited on Sat May-24-08 02:08 AM by Writer
The need to place "card" and "-gate" after proper nouns and inflammatory words in order to describe a far more complex issue.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:39 AM
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86. The assassination "card" - that word is starting to get pretty overused, I feel.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:33 AM
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88. The difference: Michelle's worried. Hillary's hopeful.
Michelle has nightmares about assassination.

Hillary's hopeful dreams all DEPEND on it happening.

That's a major difference, isn't it?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:19 AM
Response to Reply #88
93. Only the truly twisted can play this into "hope for BO's death"
Twisted minds.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #93
142. Assassination IS her only hope.
Essentially, that's her explanation for why she's staying in. Because "anything could happen."

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #142
143. That's a really sick thing to believe.
I feel sorry for you.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #143
147. Then feel sorry for a lot of people. Because I'm not the only one.
And there are a lot of us.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:29 PM
Response to Reply #147
149. A lot of people were manipulated by the Obama camp and the MSM.
I feel sorry for them.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 07:15 AM
Response to Reply #93
156. yes, only twisted minds would say/assume/repeat that vile meme.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:23 AM
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96. Pure Hillary apologist's BS
Edited on Sat May-24-08 11:23 AM by ProSense
"When asked if she’s concerned about Obama being assassinated... "

People who raise assassination are attempting to play up fear.



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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #96
100. Only those perverted by Hate could twist "June" into "She Wants BO killed"
I mock them from a great height.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:42 PM
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107. Deleted message
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #107
114. "Your bile and thinly-veiled racism is pathetic." Bingo! The DUbama's Godwin's Law Invoked!
Edited on Sat May-24-08 01:43 PM by MethuenProgressive
"thinly-veiled racism"
Sweetie, BO is whiter than I am.
Your constant chant that "all who don't fall to their knees are racists" is what is truly "pathetic,"
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:40 PM
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125. Watch that "Sweetie" MP, that is sexist according to your own kind.
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:41 PM
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126. Oh, and another kick, BTW
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:53 PM
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119. Words Matter nt
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:42 PM
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127. Yes they do!
And Hill's speak volumes.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:53 PM
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131. MICHELL MICHELL!!!!! anybody can get shot at a gas station criminals don't discriminate
the only thing they see is GREEN!!!!!! someone put a muzzle on Michell's mouth it appears to me Obama can't control his wife you can see who wears the pants in that house
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:55 PM
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132. there's a card for that?
:shrug:
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MrsT Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:58 PM
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133. So what?
Hillary said something stupid, and has apologized for it. Can you admit it was stupid? People like you are no help to Sen. Clinton's cause.
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:28 PM
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135. Oops, almost forgot. Kick
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:22 PM
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141. Two fun links:
Link to Skinner's thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6108152
(you'll see that many actual Obama supporters aren't buying the "outrage")
Link to BigTree's thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6107193
(you'll see that many actual Obama supporters aren't buying the "outrage")
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:55 PM
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144. yes Michele did
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:00 PM
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145. Obama Says He Accepts Clinton Explanation of Controversial Comment
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:37 PM
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150. ::crickets::
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:56 AM
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152. Haven't Heard Much On This In The Media
Hmm, wonder why not?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 11:44 AM
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153. ...
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 07:27 PM
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154. ... - ..--.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 07:34 PM
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155. Logan's Law: if PROOF is written in caps, there is no proof.
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